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Posted to dev@trafodion.apache.org by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> on 2018/03/18 21:09:23 UTC
Re: Podling announcing releases
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org> wrote:
> High Nick, all,
>
> Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs their web
> presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
>
Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's incorrect
link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your misuse
of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network, per
release policy.
Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
Regards,
Greg Stein
Infrastructure Administrator
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Looks like they've updated the web page just recently. Agreed: it has the
correct links now.
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Mike,
>
> The latest release (2.2.0) has this link for the source:
> http://www.apache.org/dist/trafodion/apache-trafodion-2.
> 2.0/src/apache-trafodion-2.2.0-src.tar.gz
>
> (seen on http://trafodion.apache.org/download.html)
>
> That does not use the mirrors, but instead uses *only* our TLP web server.
> That is an explicit violation of the policy.
>
> Further, the announce@apache moderators informed Trafodion of this, and
> held back the release announcement. My warning is simply an escalation of
> an already-provided request to fix the download page.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 17:11 Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
>> telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
>> the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
>> release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > High Nick, all,
>> > >
>> > > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs
>> their
>> > web
>> > > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's
>> incorrect
>> > link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your
>> misuse
>> > of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network,
>> per
>> > release policy.
>> >
>> > Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Greg Stein
>> > Infrastructure Administrator
>> >
>>
>
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Looks like they've updated the web page just recently. Agreed: it has the
correct links now.
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Mike,
>
> The latest release (2.2.0) has this link for the source:
> http://www.apache.org/dist/trafodion/apache-trafodion-2.
> 2.0/src/apache-trafodion-2.2.0-src.tar.gz
>
> (seen on http://trafodion.apache.org/download.html)
>
> That does not use the mirrors, but instead uses *only* our TLP web server.
> That is an explicit violation of the policy.
>
> Further, the announce@apache moderators informed Trafodion of this, and
> held back the release announcement. My warning is simply an escalation of
> an already-provided request to fix the download page.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 17:11 Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
>> telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
>> the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
>> release.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > High Nick, all,
>> > >
>> > > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs
>> their
>> > web
>> > > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's
>> incorrect
>> > link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your
>> misuse
>> > of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network,
>> per
>> > release policy.
>> >
>> > Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Greg Stein
>> > Infrastructure Administrator
>> >
>>
>
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Hey Mike,
The latest release (2.2.0) has this link for the source:
http://www.apache.org/dist/trafodion/apache-trafodion-2.2.0/src/apache-trafodion-2.2.0-src.tar.gz
(seen on http://trafodion.apache.org/download.html)
That does not use the mirrors, but instead uses *only* our TLP web server.
That is an explicit violation of the policy.
Further, the announce@apache moderators informed Trafodion of this, and
held back the release announcement. My warning is simply an escalation of
an already-provided request to fix the download page.
Cheers,
-g
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 17:11 Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
> telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
> the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
> release.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > High Nick, all,
> > >
> > > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs their
> > web
> > > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
> > >
> >
> > Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's incorrect
> > link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your
> misuse
> > of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network,
> per
> > release policy.
> >
> > Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
> >
> > Regards,
> > Greg Stein
> > Infrastructure Administrator
> >
>
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Hey Mike,
The latest release (2.2.0) has this link for the source:
http://www.apache.org/dist/trafodion/apache-trafodion-2.2.0/src/apache-trafodion-2.2.0-src.tar.gz
(seen on http://trafodion.apache.org/download.html)
That does not use the mirrors, but instead uses *only* our TLP web server.
That is an explicit violation of the policy.
Further, the announce@apache moderators informed Trafodion of this, and
held back the release announcement. My warning is simply an escalation of
an already-provided request to fix the download page.
Cheers,
-g
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 17:11 Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
> telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
> the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
> release.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > High Nick, all,
> > >
> > > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs their
> > web
> > > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
> > >
> >
> > Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's incorrect
> > link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your
> misuse
> > of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network,
> per
> > release policy.
> >
> > Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
> >
> > Regards,
> > Greg Stein
> > Infrastructure Administrator
> >
>
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
Greg,
I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
release.
Mike
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > High Nick, all,
> >
> > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs their
> web
> > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
> >
>
> Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's incorrect
> link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your misuse
> of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network, per
> release policy.
>
> Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
>
> Regards,
> Greg Stein
> Infrastructure Administrator
>
Re: Podling announcing releases
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
Greg,
I'm confused about this warning. It looks like Pierre was explicitly
telling people not to do the wrong thing, and spot checking their website
the download links point to the mirror page for at least their latest
release.
Mike
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 4:09 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 08:18 Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > High Nick, all,
> >
> > Who am I to tell how a community - incubating or not - constructs their
> web
> > presence in general and their download links/page in particular.
> >
>
> Well, Infra *can* coerce you to fix Trafodion's download Page's incorrect
> link. I don't think we would edit your page, but we *can* stop your misuse
> of www.a.o/dist, and recommend you switch to using the mirror network, per
> release policy.
>
> Consider Trafodion officially warned. cc:dev@trafodion
>
> Regards,
> Greg Stein
> Infrastructure Administrator
>