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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Jeff Tapper <je...@spoon.as> on 2012/02/15 16:36:08 UTC
Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Hey all, just wanted to post a brief note that the Flex tour has started,
with the first event being Monday night in NY, the next one is tonight in
Boston.
The meeting was well attended, and had 3 presenters Christophe and Allen
from Adobe, and I.
Christophe stated the meeting off with an apology about how badly things
were handled, Alan Greenblatt talked about how Adobe plans on supporting
existing enterprise customers, and talked a bit about the differences
between adobe and apache. I then talked about the Apache process, how
committers and non-committers can get involved. How spoon fits in. How
releases are voted on, and in general the "apache way" of doing things.
I made a point of giving urls to the apache flex project, to the mailing
lists and to the jira instance.
The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash builder
will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
their anger, but not much news.
The recording of the event is available here:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mike-s-flex-channel
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by JP Bader <jp...@zavteq.com>.
Thanks Jeff!
Chicago is hosting Christophe from Adobe and Michael Labriola from
Digital Primates on 2/29. If you are in the area, please sign up
(info here: www.chicagoflex.org) and show your support of the
evolution of Flex.
Cheers,
JP
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Jeff Tapper <je...@spoon.as> wrote:
> Hey all, just wanted to post a brief note that the Flex tour has started,
> with the first event being Monday night in NY, the next one is tonight in
> Boston.
>
>
>
> The meeting was well attended, and had 3 presenters Christophe and Allen
> from Adobe, and I.
>
>
>
> Christophe stated the meeting off with an apology about how badly things
> were handled, Alan Greenblatt talked about how Adobe plans on supporting
> existing enterprise customers, and talked a bit about the differences
> between adobe and apache. I then talked about the Apache process, how
> committers and non-committers can get involved. How spoon fits in. How
> releases are voted on, and in general the "apache way" of doing things.
>
>
>
> I made a point of giving urls to the apache flex project, to the mailing
> lists and to the jira instance.
>
>
>
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash builder
> will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
> their anger, but not much news.
>
>
>
> The recording of the event is available here:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mike-s-flex-channel
>
>
>
--
JP Bader
Principal
Zavteq, Inc.
@lordB8r | jp@zavteq.com
608.692.2468
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Omar Gonzalez <om...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Petr Cihelka <ci...@xhost.cz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
>> builder
>> will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
>> their anger, but not much news.
>>
>
> this is really bad news, but I hope that you meant Flash Professional not
> Flash/Flex Builder, because in the article "Adobe's view of Flex and its
> commitments to Flex in the future " [1] is this:
>
> Development of Flash Builder continues. Adobe plans to maintain support
>>
> > for Flex projects in updates to Flash Builder 4.x, including additional
> > work to ensure Apache Flex based SDKs can work within Flash Builder.
> > ........
>
>> In order to better support future
>>
> > Apache-derived Flex SDKs, Design View, Data Centric Development
> > tools, and Flash Catalyst workflows will be removed in updated
> > 4.x versions of Flash Builder.
>
> In this statement is mentioned that they want to remove Design view, DCD
> and FC, not Flex. What is Flash/Flex builder without Flex, only Eclipse :)
>
> [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/**flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html<http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html>
>
>
> --
> Peter C.
>
>
I suggest you look at: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/index.html
--
Omar Gonzalez
s9tpepper@apache.org
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Petr Cihelka <ci...@xhost.cz>.
Hi,
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash builder
> will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
> their anger, but not much news.
this is really bad news, but I hope that you meant Flash Professional
not Flash/Flex Builder, because in the article "Adobe's view of Flex and
its commitments to Flex in the future " [1] is this:
> Development of Flash Builder continues. Adobe plans to maintain support
> for Flex projects in updates to Flash Builder 4.x, including additional
> work to ensure Apache Flex based SDKs can work within Flash Builder.
> ........
> In order to better support future
> Apache-derived Flex SDKs, Design View, Data Centric Development
> tools, and Flash Catalyst workflows will be removed in updated
> 4.x versions of Flash Builder.
In this statement is mentioned that they want to remove Design view, DCD
and FC, not Flex. What is Flash/Flex builder without Flex, only Eclipse :)
[1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html
--
Peter C.
Dne 15.2.2012 16:36, Jeff Tapper napsal(a):
> Hey all, just wanted to post a brief note that the Flex tour has started,
> with the first event being Monday night in NY, the next one is tonight in
> Boston.
>
>
>
> The meeting was well attended, and had 3 presenters Christophe and Allen
> from Adobe, and I.
>
>
>
> Christophe stated the meeting off with an apology about how badly things
> were handled, Alan Greenblatt talked about how Adobe plans on supporting
> existing enterprise customers, and talked a bit about the differences
> between adobe and apache. I then talked about the Apache process, how
> committers and non-committers can get involved. How spoon fits in. How
> releases are voted on, and in general the "apache way" of doing things.
>
>
>
> I made a point of giving urls to the apache flex project, to the mailing
> lists and to the jira instance.
>
>
>
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash builder
> will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
> their anger, but not much news.
>
>
>
> The recording of the event is available here:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mike-s-flex-channel
>
>
>
>
RE: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Jeff Tapper <je...@spoon.as>.
There was very little detail given. I suspect that the idea of swapping out
an SDK may not exist, since the only part of the SDK it will care about are
the compiler.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:51 AM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Hi,
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
builder will not have Flex support.
That's news and I think not what Adobe stated at the Flash Summit?. Was
there any more details given?
Does that mean it will only support AS and AIR (desktop and mobile)
projects? Currently with FB 4.6 you can take a compiled Flex SDK (from
Apache for instance) and add it as SDK. Will the next version of FB not have
this feature at all?
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash builder will not have Flex support.
That's news and I think not what Adobe stated at the Flash Summit?. Was there any more details given?
Does that mean it will only support AS and AIR (desktop and mobile) projects? Currently with FB 4.6 you can take a compiled Flex SDK (from Apache for instance) and add it as SDK. Will the next version of FB not have this feature at all?
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
Just posted a question on ACP list.
Tomislav
On 15.2.2012. 17:26, Jeff Tapper wrote:
> Reach out to adobe for clarification, I've got nothing specific to offer.
> Allen Greenblatt mentioned this in the NY stop of the Flex tour.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fréderic Cox [mailto:frederic@exuvis.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:12 AM
> To: Apache Flex Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
>
>
>> The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
>> builder will not have Flex support.
> Can you elaborate on this? Now I'm using Flex to create mobile apps in
> FB4.6, this will not be possible in the future?? I don't understand this
> comment at all.
>
>
>
RE: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Jeff Tapper <je...@spoon.as>.
Reach out to adobe for clarification, I've got nothing specific to offer.
Allen Greenblatt mentioned this in the NY stop of the Flex tour.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fréderic Cox [mailto:frederic@exuvis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:12 AM
To: Apache Flex Mailing List
Subject: Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
>The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
>builder will not have Flex support.
Can you elaborate on this? Now I'm using Flex to create mobile apps in
FB4.6, this will not be possible in the future?? I don't understand this
comment at all.
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@googlemail.com>.
For what i understand is that in the future only ActionScript/JS
development in FB.
No Flex.
What a mess from Adobe !
2012/2/15 Fréderic Cox <fr...@exuvis.com>
>
> >The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
> >builder
> >will not have Flex support.
>
> Can you elaborate on this? Now I'm using Flex to create mobile apps in
> FB4.6, this will not be possible in the future?? I don't understand this
> comment at all.
>
>
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Fréderic Cox <fr...@exuvis.com>.
>The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
>builder
>will not have Flex support.
Can you elaborate on this? Now I'm using Flex to create mobile apps in
FB4.6, this will not be possible in the future?? I don't understand this
comment at all.
Re: Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour
Posted by Michelle Yaiser <my...@adobe.com>.
Hi, Everyone.
The white paper that was promised at the community summit is December has
just been published. Adobe¹s view of Flex and its commitments to Flex in
the future can be found here:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html
Hopefully most of your questions have been addressed. Please feel free to
ask questions or attend one of the Flex tour events (links to dates in the
post).
Cheers,
Michelle
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Michelle Yaiser
Content & Community Manager | Developer Relations
Adobe Systems | myaiser@adobe.com | 781-839-1697
On 2/15/12 10:36 AM, "Jeff Tapper" <je...@spoon.as> wrote:
>Hey all, just wanted to post a brief note that the Flex tour has started,
>with the first event being Monday night in NY, the next one is tonight in
>Boston.
>
>
>
>The meeting was well attended, and had 3 presenters Christophe and Allen
>from Adobe, and I.
>
>
>
>Christophe stated the meeting off with an apology about how badly things
>were handled, Alan Greenblatt talked about how Adobe plans on supporting
>existing enterprise customers, and talked a bit about the differences
>between adobe and apache. I then talked about the Apache process, how
>committers and non-committers can get involved. How spoon fits in. How
>releases are voted on, and in general the "apache way" of doing things.
>
>
>
>I made a point of giving urls to the apache flex project, to the mailing
>lists and to the jira instance.
>
>
>
>The biggest news from Adobe was that the next major release of Flash
>builder
>will not have Flex support. Otherwise, there was lost of people venting
>their anger, but not much news.
>
>
>
>The recording of the event is available here:
>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mike-s-flex-channel
>
>
>