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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Om <bi...@gmail.com> on 2012/07/10 03:02:15 UTC
InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Tomasz,
I need your help to finish up the badge installer. After seeing the
feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app, I
think it is better to just install either the .dmg file or the .exe file
based on the current platform.
Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
"appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a download
for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
installation to begin. Everything else can remain the same. You can test
with this URL for the .exe:
http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex/InstallApacheFlex.exe
The other alternative for me is to use the assets you created and create a
simple badge in Flex - I dont have Flash Pro. But that would cause all
your hard work of creating the smallest possible swf to go to waste.
Please let me know if you can make this change some time soon?
Thanks,
Om
Re: AW: AW: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 7/12/12 8:56 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> I Guess that this would have to be something the tool-builders would have to
> do. So if this is a permanent "problem" that will not be resolveable, perhaps
> the tool builders could introduce some checks for this.
> For example I could immagine that if we were to contact the guys from
> Jetbrains to adjust their Flex SDK import tool, they could tell the users
> what's wrong ... guess the Adobe guys would have to do something similar.
>
> I think there is no way to get the people to read ... not even if it were
> possible to have a file in blinking red colour in any directory listing.
>
> One other option would be to have a really noticable popup to appear when
> downloading from the Adobe Flex page. When downloading the archive most people
> - like me - will simply treat it's content as complete bundle.
I noticed the other day that Apache HTTPD has a windows installer. I want
to make Om's AIR app our installer. Then I think we can put popups in your
face and you don't need to read a readme first.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
AW: AW: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I Guess that this would have to be something the tool-builders would have to do. So if this is a permanent "problem" that will not be resolveable, perhaps the tool builders could introduce some checks for this.
For example I could immagine that if we were to contact the guys from Jetbrains to adjust their Flex SDK import tool, they could tell the users what's wrong ... guess the Adobe guys would have to do something similar.
I think there is no way to get the people to read ... not even if it were possible to have a file in blinking red colour in any directory listing.
One other option would be to have a really noticable popup to appear when downloading from the Adobe Flex page. When downloading the archive most people - like me - will simply treat it's content as complete bundle.
Chris
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Carol Frampton [mailto:cframpto@adobe.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2012 17:45
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
On 7/12/12 11 :02AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de"
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Unfortunatley I stumbled into this pit too Š my bad that it was related
>to me not reading the readme correctly.
>
>Would it be possible to distribute the osmf and textlayout libraries
>similar to the "external³ stuff in the compiler itself? I think we do
>need some sort of FDK that can be used without having to download
>additional stuff and placing this in the FDK.
Unfortunately no.
Remember the official Apache release is source and if you download the source and build it, it will download the "external stuff" only after you've read their licenses and in the case of the optional stuff, you've agreed to the licenses. The binary release is only for convenience and it is not the official release. That is why it is bumped down to the binaries subdirectory.
I know nobody reads the docs. If you have any suggestions on how to get people to realize there are additional steps I'd like to hear them.
Carol
>
Re: AW: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
On 7/12/12 11 :02AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de"
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Unfortunatley I stumbled into this pit too Š my bad that it was related
>to me not reading the readme correctly.
>
>Would it be possible to distribute the osmf and textlayout libraries
>similar to the "external³ stuff in the compiler itself? I think we do
>need some sort of FDK that can be used without having to download
>additional stuff and placing this in the FDK.
Unfortunately no.
Remember the official Apache release is source and if you download the
source and build it, it will download the "external stuff" only after
you've read their licenses and in the case of the optional stuff, you've
agreed to the licenses. The binary release is only for convenience and it
is not the official release. That is why it is bumped down to the
binaries subdirectory.
I know nobody reads the docs. If you have any suggestions on how to get
people to realize there are additional steps I'd like to hear them.
Carol
>
AW: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Unfortunatley I stumbled into this pit too … my bad that it was related to me not reading the readme correctly.
Would it be possible to distribute the osmf and textlayout libraries similar to the "external“ stuff in the compiler itself? I think we do need some sort of FDK that can be used without having to download additional stuff and placing this in the FDK.
I think that there might be a lot of people - like me - that don’t read the readme ;-)
Chris
Von: Gautam Pandey [mailto:gkptechi@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2012 16:55
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: 원영국
Betreff: Re: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Hi,
I am also getting the same 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc' . Step to reproduce this issue.
1. Get the Apache Flex SDK 4.8 installed using Om's given installer.
2. Add Apache Flex SDK 4.8 to your Flash Builder. For me its Flash Builder 4.5 and OS is Window 7.
3. Try to compile my attached test project.
and I am getting above compile error.
Please find the attached snap of compilation error also.
Thanks
Gautam
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for testing the app. Can you please post details on the steps to
reproduce this bug? Include your OS as well.
Filinga a JIRA ticket can help track this issue better.
Thanks,
Om
On Jul 9, 2012 8:41 PM, "원영국" <en...@naver.com>> wrote:
>
> I use Flash Builder 4.6.
> I installed you app and make a flex sdk 4.8.0.
> and I used it in Flash Builder.
> but i met below error.
> 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc'
>
>
>
>
> Dev for love
> d(^-^)b
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Om"<bigosmallm@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>>
> To: <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>>;
> Cc:
> Sent: 2012-07-10 (화) 10:02:15
> Subject: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
>
> Tomasz,
>
> I need your help to finish up the badge installer. After seeing the
> feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app, I
> think it is better to just install either the .dmg file or the .exe file
> based on the current platform.
>
> Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
> "appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a download
> for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
> installation to begin. Everything else can remain the same. You can test
> with this URL for the .exe:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex/InstallApacheFlex.exe
>
> The other alternative for me is to use the assets you created and create a
> simple badge in Flex - I dont have Flash Pro. But that would cause all
> your hard work of creating the smallest possible swf to go to waste.
>
> Please let me know if you can make this change some time soon?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
Re: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Gautam Pandey <gk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am also getting the same 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc' . Step
> to reproduce this issue.
> 1. Get the Apache Flex SDK 4.8 installed using Om's given installer.
> 2. Add Apache Flex SDK 4.8 to your Flash Builder. For me its Flash
> Builder 4.5 and OS is Window 7.
> 3. Try to compile my attached test project.
> and I am getting above compile error.
> Please find the attached snap of compilation error also.
>
>
> Thanks
> Gautam
>
>
Gautam,
This issue has been fixed now. Please look at
FLEX-33106<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33106>for more
details.
I also tried it with the project you have attached. I dont get any errors
while compiling.
Thanks,
Om
Re: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Gautam Pandey <gk...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I am also getting the same 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc' . Step
to reproduce this issue.
1. Get the Apache Flex SDK 4.8 installed using Om's given installer.
2. Add Apache Flex SDK 4.8 to your Flash Builder. For me its Flash Builder
4.5 and OS is Window 7.
3. Try to compile my attached test project.
and I am getting above compile error.
Please find the attached snap of compilation error also.
Thanks
Gautam
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for testing the app. Can you please post details on the steps to
> reproduce this bug? Include your OS as well.
>
> Filinga a JIRA ticket can help track this issue better.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
> On Jul 9, 2012 8:41 PM, "원영국" <en...@naver.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I use Flash Builder 4.6.
> > I installed you app and make a flex sdk 4.8.0.
> > and I used it in Flash Builder.
> > but i met below error.
> > 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dev for love
> > d(^-^)b
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Om"<bigosmallm@gmail.com>
> > To: <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org>;
> > Cc:
> > Sent: 2012-07-10 (화) 10:02:15
> > Subject: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
> >
> > Tomasz,
> >
> > I need your help to finish up the badge installer. After seeing the
> > feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app, I
> > think it is better to just install either the .dmg file or the .exe file
> > based on the current platform.
> >
> > Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
> > "appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a
> download
> > for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
> > installation to begin. Everything else can remain the same. You can
> test
> > with this URL for the .exe:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex/InstallApacheFlex.exe
> >
> > The other alternative for me is to use the assets you created and create
> a
> > simple badge in Flex - I dont have Flash Pro. But that would cause all
> > your hard work of creating the smallest possible swf to go to waste.
> >
> > Please let me know if you can make this change some time soon?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
>
RE: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for testing the app. Can you please post details on the steps to
reproduce this bug? Include your OS as well.
Filinga a JIRA ticket can help track this issue better.
Thanks,
Om
On Jul 9, 2012 8:41 PM, "원영국" <en...@naver.com> wrote:
>
> I use Flash Builder 4.6.
> I installed you app and make a flex sdk 4.8.0.
> and I used it in Flash Builder.
> but i met below error.
> 'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc'
>
>
>
>
> Dev for love
> d(^-^)b
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Om"<bigosmallm@gmail.com>
> To: <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org>;
> Cc:
> Sent: 2012-07-10 (화) 10:02:15
> Subject: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
>
> Tomasz,
>
> I need your help to finish up the badge installer. After seeing the
> feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app, I
> think it is better to just install either the .dmg file or the .exe file
> based on the current platform.
>
> Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
> "appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a download
> for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
> installation to begin. Everything else can remain the same. You can test
> with this URL for the .exe:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex/InstallApacheFlex.exe
>
> The other alternative for me is to use the assets you created and create a
> simple badge in Flex - I dont have Flash Pro. But that would cause all
> your hard work of creating the smallest possible swf to go to waste.
>
> Please let me know if you can make this change some time soon?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
RE: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by 원영국 <en...@naver.com>.
I use Flash Builder 4.6.
I installed you app and make a flex sdk 4.8.0.
and I used it in Flash Builder.
but i met below error.
'unable to load SWC textLayout.swc'
Dev for love
d(^-^)b
-----Original Message-----
From: "Om"<bigosmallm@gmail.com>
To: <flex-dev@incubator.apache.org>;
Cc:
Sent: 2012-07-10 (화) 10:02:15
Subject: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Tomasz,
I need your help to finish up the badge installer. After seeing the
feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app, I
think it is better to just install either the .dmg file or the .exe file
based on the current platform.
Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
"appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a download
for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
installation to begin. Everything else can remain the same. You can test
with this URL for the .exe:
http://people.apache.org/~bigosmallm/installapacheflex/InstallApacheFlex.exe
The other alternative for me is to use the assets you created and create a
simple badge in Flex - I dont have Flash Pro. But that would cause all
your hard work of creating the smallest possible swf to go to waste.
Please let me know if you can make this change some time soon?
Thanks,
Om
Re: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective <
t.maciag@fusecollective.com> wrote:
> Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
>> "appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a
>> download
>> for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
>> installation to begin.
>>
> I've updated badge. You can switch mode in HTML to download (navigate to
> the "appURL") or install (works the same as before). That works for you?
> Right now it works with navigateToURL but I could change it to
> FileReference solution.
>
> Thanks Tomasz! I will give it a spin today. One last requirement is - we
will need to auto detect the os (mac vs. windows) and navigate to the
correct URL - .dmg vs. .exe
Right now, we dont have a .dmg build up on my site. Can someone using a
Mac run the ant build and attach the .dmg file to the JIRA ticket? I can
post it up on my site alongside of the .exe build.
>
> After seeing the
>> feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app,
>>
> BTW. what kind of confusion was there? I think I missed that...
>
>
On Macs, the AIR SDK download is a tar file. The Fzip library we are using
does not uncompress these files. So, just on the Macs, we are using the
NativeProcess api to invoke tar natively and untar the file. Because of
this, for Macs, we have to package and distribute the app as a native
installer. No such issues for windows, because the AIR SDK is available as
a zip file.
Native installers cannot be installed using a badge installer. There is no
need anyways, because the badge installer is mostly a utility to seamlessly
detect and install the AIR Runtime along with the app. But since we are
packaging the app natively, we are shipping the AIR runtime with the app
itself (captive runtime)
Messaging this distinction between installers across operating systems
seems to be confusion prone. Hence I thought ditching the AIR file and
badge installation would make it easier for us and for end users.
But I really like the concept of the badge installer. I plan to put out a
very simple html snippet that anybody can include in their blogs, websites,
facebook, linked in, etc. This would help spread Apache Flex better. And
the badge installer looks very cool, so why not use it ;-)
Thanks,
Om
Re: InstallApacheFlex badge installer
Posted by Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective <t....@fusecollective.com>.
> Can you modify the action button(install) click to just navigate to the
> "appURL" instead of invoking the airSWF api? This would trigger a download
> for the installer and the user can just open the downloaded file for the
> installation to begin.
I've updated badge. You can switch mode in HTML to download (navigate to
the "appURL") or install (works the same as before). That works for you?
Right now it works with navigateToURL but I could change it to
FileReference solution.
> After seeing the
> feedback we are getting regarding the confusion caused by the .AIR app,
BTW. what kind of confusion was there? I think I missed that...
--
Tomasz Maciąg
Fuse Collective
www.fusecollective.com