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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> on 2008/10/21 21:30:40 UTC
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Hi Ant,
Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together. Let's
first agree on the goal of the survey.
IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing Tuscany
to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their SOA-based
solutions.
Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in the
survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey that
Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in this
email thread rather than using the survey tool).
Understand baseline
1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in development
c) in production
2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
- List releases to choose from (Click option)
3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
Vendor specific e) Standalone
Understand what is needed
4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
-List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
- If you mentioned other, please indicate what
5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
- List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
- What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to see?
6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
- What suggestion do you have for improving this?
7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
decision?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the Tuscany
> distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user feedback
> and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach i could
> be using one of the online survey tools available on the net, googling
> around most of those tools require paying to open an account which is no
> good for us, the best one i've found so far is http://www.surveymonkey.comwhich lets you have free surveys limited to 10 questions and up to 100
> participants. To show what it looks like I had a quick go at creating a
> survey:
>
> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>
> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we could
> work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
> than the email on the user list.
>
> WDYT?
>
> ...ant
>
>
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Looks good. Are you planning to post this soon? Thank you for putting it
together.
It might be helpful to let users know that the survey will take 1-2 minutes.
I gave it a try.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:45 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've updated with those questions and opened the current draft so its easy
> to see what it looks like, feel free to have a go to see what it looks like
> and give any comments in changes or questions that might improve it, or
> update it directly by logging on to www.eSurveysPro.com<http://www.esurveyspro.com/>.
>
>
> The link to the survey is:
> http://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=9cd695af-ee90-49fa-bd19-4aeef4bc10dd<http://www.esurveyspro.com/Survey.aspx?id=9cd695af-ee90-49fa-bd19-4aeef4bc10dd>
>
> ...ant
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:36 AM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ant,
>> I agree. Thanks for creating the survey and sending it out.
>>
>> Can you please change #4 to read as follows:
>>
>> 4. Which technologies do you use in your SCA solution?
>>
>> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) J2SE d) Scripting languages (e.g.
>> PHP, Perl, Ruby, etc.) e) non-Java languages (e.g. C, C++, etc.) f) OSGi g)
>> BPEL h) ESB, i) other
>>
>> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>>
>> Haleh
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Those questions look good to me, fine for now anyway and we could tweak
>>> them if others come up. How about I go ahead and create a draft survey based
>>> on this so we can see what that looks like?
>>>
>>> ...ant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does silence mean this is good enough to be put into a survey?
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to suggest to add one more question.
>>>> 8. How is your choice of SCA helping your business?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ant,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together.
>>>>> Let's first agree on the goal of the survey.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing
>>>>> Tuscany to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their
>>>>> SOA-based solutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in
>>>>> the survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey
>>>>> that Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in
>>>>> this email thread rather than using the survey tool).
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand baseline
>>>>> 1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in
>>>>> development c) in production
>>>>> 2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
>>>>> - List releases to choose from (Click option)
>>>>> 3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
>>>>> Vendor specific e) Standalone
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand what is needed
>>>>> 4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
>>>>> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
>>>>> languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
>>>>> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
>>>>> - List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
>>>>> - What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to
>>>>> see?
>>>>> 6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
>>>>> a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
>>>>> - What suggestion do you have for improving this?
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
>>>>> decision?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the
>>>>>> Tuscany distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user
>>>>>> feedback and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach
>>>>>> i could be using one of the online survey tools available on the net,
>>>>>> googling around most of those tools require paying to open an account which
>>>>>> is no good for us, the best one i've found so far is
>>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com which lets you have free surveys limited
>>>>>> to 10 questions and up to 100 participants. To show what it looks like I had
>>>>>> a quick go at creating a survey:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we
>>>>>> could work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
>>>>>> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
>>>>>> than the email on the user list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...ant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Posted by ant elder <an...@apache.org>.
I've updated with those questions and opened the current draft so its easy
to see what it looks like, feel free to have a go to see what it looks like
and give any comments in changes or questions that might improve it, or
update it directly by logging on to www.eSurveysPro.com.
The link to the survey is:
http://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=9cd695af-ee90-49fa-bd19-4aeef4bc10dd
...ant
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:36 AM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ant,
> I agree. Thanks for creating the survey and sending it out.
>
> Can you please change #4 to read as follows:
>
> 4. Which technologies do you use in your SCA solution?
>
> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) J2SE d) Scripting languages (e.g.
> PHP, Perl, Ruby, etc.) e) non-Java languages (e.g. C, C++, etc.) f) OSGi g)
> BPEL h) ESB, i) other
>
> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>
> Haleh
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Those questions look good to me, fine for now anyway and we could tweak
>> them if others come up. How about I go ahead and create a draft survey based
>> on this so we can see what that looks like?
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does silence mean this is good enough to be put into a survey?
>>>
>>> I'd like to suggest to add one more question.
>>> 8. How is your choice of SCA helping your business?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ant,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together.
>>>> Let's first agree on the goal of the survey.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing
>>>> Tuscany to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their
>>>> SOA-based solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in
>>>> the survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey
>>>> that Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in
>>>> this email thread rather than using the survey tool).
>>>>
>>>> Understand baseline
>>>> 1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in
>>>> development c) in production
>>>> 2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
>>>> - List releases to choose from (Click option)
>>>> 3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
>>>> Vendor specific e) Standalone
>>>>
>>>> Understand what is needed
>>>> 4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
>>>> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
>>>> languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
>>>> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>>>>
>>>> 5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
>>>> - List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
>>>> - What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to
>>>> see?
>>>> 6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
>>>> a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
>>>> - What suggestion do you have for improving this?
>>>>
>>>> 7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
>>>> decision?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the
>>>>> Tuscany distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user
>>>>> feedback and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach
>>>>> i could be using one of the online survey tools available on the net,
>>>>> googling around most of those tools require paying to open an account which
>>>>> is no good for us, the best one i've found so far is
>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com which lets you have free surveys limited
>>>>> to 10 questions and up to 100 participants. To show what it looks like I had
>>>>> a quick go at creating a survey:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we
>>>>> could work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
>>>>> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
>>>>> than the email on the user list.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> ...ant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Ant,
I agree. Thanks for creating the survey and sending it out.
Can you please change #4 to read as follows:
4. Which technologies do you use in your SCA solution?
-List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) J2SE d) Scripting languages (e.g.
PHP, Perl, Ruby, etc.) e) non-Java languages (e.g. C, C++, etc.) f) OSGi g)
BPEL h) ESB, i) other
- If you mentioned other, please indicate what
Haleh
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> Those questions look good to me, fine for now anyway and we could tweak
> them if others come up. How about I go ahead and create a draft survey based
> on this so we can see what that looks like?
>
> ...ant
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does silence mean this is good enough to be put into a survey?
>>
>> I'd like to suggest to add one more question.
>> 8. How is your choice of SCA helping your business?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ant,
>>>
>>> Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together.
>>> Let's first agree on the goal of the survey.
>>>
>>> IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing
>>> Tuscany to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their
>>> SOA-based solutions.
>>>
>>> Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in
>>> the survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey
>>> that Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in
>>> this email thread rather than using the survey tool).
>>>
>>> Understand baseline
>>> 1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in
>>> development c) in production
>>> 2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
>>> - List releases to choose from (Click option)
>>> 3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
>>> Vendor specific e) Standalone
>>>
>>> Understand what is needed
>>> 4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
>>> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
>>> languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
>>> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>>>
>>> 5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
>>> - List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
>>> - What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to see?
>>> 6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
>>> a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
>>> - What suggestion do you have for improving this?
>>>
>>> 7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
>>> decision?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the
>>>> Tuscany distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user
>>>> feedback and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach
>>>> i could be using one of the online survey tools available on the net,
>>>> googling around most of those tools require paying to open an account which
>>>> is no good for us, the best one i've found so far is
>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com which lets you have free surveys limited to
>>>> 10 questions and up to 100 participants. To show what it looks like I had a
>>>> quick go at creating a survey:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>>>>
>>>> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we
>>>> could work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
>>>> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
>>>> than the email on the user list.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> ...ant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Posted by ant elder <an...@apache.org>.
Those questions look good to me, fine for now anyway and we could tweak them
if others come up. How about I go ahead and create a draft survey based on
this so we can see what that looks like?
...ant
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does silence mean this is good enough to be put into a survey?
>
> I'd like to suggest to add one more question.
> 8. How is your choice of SCA helping your business?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ant,
>>
>> Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together.
>> Let's first agree on the goal of the survey.
>>
>> IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing
>> Tuscany to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their
>> SOA-based solutions.
>>
>> Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in
>> the survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey
>> that Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in
>> this email thread rather than using the survey tool).
>>
>> Understand baseline
>> 1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in development
>> c) in production
>> 2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
>> - List releases to choose from (Click option)
>> 3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
>> Vendor specific e) Standalone
>>
>> Understand what is needed
>> 4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
>> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
>> languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
>> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>>
>> 5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
>> - List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
>> - What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to see?
>> 6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
>> a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
>> - What suggestion do you have for improving this?
>>
>> 7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
>> decision?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the Tuscany
>>> distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user feedback
>>> and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach i could
>>> be using one of the online survey tools available on the net, googling
>>> around most of those tools require paying to open an account which is no
>>> good for us, the best one i've found so far is
>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com which lets you have free surveys limited to
>>> 10 questions and up to 100 participants. To show what it looks like I had a
>>> quick go at creating a survey:
>>>
>>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>>>
>>> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we
>>> could work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
>>> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
>>> than the email on the user list.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> ...ant
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Getting anonymous user feedback on Tuscany
Posted by haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com>.
Does silence mean this is good enough to be put into a survey?
I'd like to suggest to add one more question.
8. How is your choice of SCA helping your business?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, haleh mahbod <hm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ant,
>
> Thank you for taking the first step to put the draft survey together.
> Let's first agree on the goal of the survey.
>
> IMHO the survey would give Tuscany developers the cues for enhancing
> Tuscany to further help businesses that adapt SCA for developing their
> SOA-based solutions.
>
> Assuming that this is the baseline, some questions that can be asked in the
> survey could be as follows ( I borrowed questions from the draft survey that
> Ant had published, but thought it is easier to form the questions in this
> email thread rather than using the survey tool).
>
> Understand baseline
> 1. In what stage of development are you in? a) prototype b) in development
> c) in production
> 2. What release of Apache Tuscany do you use?
> - List releases to choose from (Click option)
> 3. What runtime platform do you use? a) Tomcat b) Geronimo c) JBoss d)
> Vendor specific e) Standalone
>
> Understand what is needed
> 4. Which technologies do you use in your solution?
> -List to choose from a) JEE b) Spring c) BPEL d) J2SE e) Scripting
> languages f) OSGI e) ESB, C++, other
> - If you mentioned other, please indicate what
>
> 5. Which SCA binding and implementation types do you use?
> - List Bindings and implementation to choose from in the survey
> - What additional bindings or implementation types would you like to see?
> 6. How would you rate ease of installation and use?
> a) very good b) good c) fair d) poor
> - What suggestion do you have for improving this?
>
> 7. If you have not adopted Tuscany yet, what will help you make that
> decision?
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:18 AM, ant elder <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Related to the thread on the user list asking for feedback on the Tuscany
>> distributions i was wondering if there were better ways to get user feedback
>> and if there were ways for users to do it anonymously. One approach i could
>> be using one of the online survey tools available on the net, googling
>> around most of those tools require paying to open an account which is no
>> good for us, the best one i've found so far is
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com which lets you have free surveys limited to
>> 10 questions and up to 100 participants. To show what it looks like I had a
>> quick go at creating a survey:
>>
>> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tan_2fLai6NIjLpuh2ZlA1qg_3d_3d
>>
>> Is there any merit in doing this? If people think it is worthwhile we
>> could work out some better questions and then point to the survey in the 1.3
>> release announcement and and blogs etc which would get a bit more exposure
>> than the email on the user list.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> ...ant
>>
>>
>