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Struts + JDO = ?
Hello, all.
I've found one very interesting session topic on JavaOne 2003 - "Applying
Open Source Web Technologies Together: Struts and OJB". Does anybody have
any information what is possible application for JDO in Struts environment?
Do Struts community planning to have explicit support for JDO (like having
now support for JDBC connection pool)?
Thank you very much,
Igor Shabalov.
Struts Studio - the best IDE for Struts.
http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
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Re: [OT] Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net>.
On Thu, Apr 17,'03 (07:17 PM GMT-0700), Igor wrote:
> <snip> Sorry for inconvenience.
No big deal. I thought maybe it was something cool people were doing now
and days and I didn't want to be missing out:)
(side note: been a while since I used Word but I know you can change
those options so it doesn't replace that kind of stuff. You could also
just use the cool jEdit all purpose editor/IDE and use the spell check
plugin available for it).
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Rick
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Re: [OT] Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com>.
Crazy Opera 7 e-mail client + crazy MS word. I like it so much, but it do
not have built-in spell check function, so I 'write' messages in word and
'copy' it into Opera. Word likes to replace actual characters with a 'nice
one' – like 'left' and 'right' quotes or 'long' dash. In my Opera mail
those characters look ok, but it transformed into something different after
sending. Sorry for inconvenience.
Igor Shabalov.
Struts Studio – the best IDE for Struts.
http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:51:03 -0400, Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:20:55 -0700
> Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com> wrote:
>
>> So, I can consider having data-source section in struts-config like
>> ___obsolete___? Another example ___ usually transactions are managed
>> from controller level. What about having support for JDO transactions?
>> I___m not arguing. I___m just wild-guessing.
>
> Just curious... why do you use ___(3 underscores) for '( apostrophe ) ?
> Between your ___'s and Steve's lack of a reply character, there have
> been some tough e-mails to read this evening:)
>
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[OT] Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net>.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:20:55 -0700
Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com> wrote:
> So, I can consider having data-source section in struts-config like
> ___obsolete___? Another example ___ usually transactions are managed
> from controller level. What about having support for JDO transactions?
> I___m not arguing. I___m just wild-guessing.
Just curious... why do you use ___(3 underscores) for '( apostrophe ) ?
Between your ___'s and Steve's lack of a reply character, there have
been some tough e-mails to read this evening:)
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Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com>.
So, I can consider having data-source section in struts-config like
“obsolete”? Another example – usually transactions are managed from
controller level. What about having support for JDO transactions?
I’m not arguing. I’m just wild-guessing.
Igor Shabalov.
Struts Studio – the best IDE for Struts.
http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:05:50 -0400, Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:59:39 -0400
> Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:25:24 -0700
>> Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So, my question is ___ what community think about some
>> > sort of ___direct support___ for JDO in Struts, - in a form of
>> > special tags or pre-defined actions(?).
>>
>> Because your view (tags in JSP) and your actions (controller) should
>> be shielded/hidden from the actual persistence layer.
>
> Sorry thought you were asking "So, my question is why doesn't Struts
> support ..." So my above answer to your direct question should be....
>
> "I'm not the community but my take is that Struts shouldn't bother
> worrying about it since in my opinion the view layer (tags in JSP) and
> your actions(controller) should be shielded/hidden from the actual
> persistence layer".
>
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Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net>.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:59:39 -0400
Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:25:24 -0700
> Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com> wrote:
>
> > So, my question is ___ what community think about some
> > sort of ___direct support___ for JDO in Struts, - in a form of
> > special tags or pre-defined actions(?).
>
> Because your view (tags in JSP) and your actions (controller) should
> be shielded/hidden from the actual persistence layer.
Sorry thought you were asking "So, my question is why doesn't Struts
support ..." So my above answer to your direct question should be....
"I'm not the community but my take is that Struts shouldn't bother
worrying about it since in my opinion the view layer (tags in JSP) and
your actions(controller) should be shielded/hidden from the actual
persistence layer".
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Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Rick Reumann <r...@reumann.net>.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:25:24 -0700
Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com> wrote:
> So, my question is ___ what community think about some
> sort of ___direct support___ for JDO in Struts, - in a form of special
> tags or pre-defined actions(?).
Because your view (tags in JSP) and your actions (controller) should be
shielded/hidden from the actual persistence layer.
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Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Igor Shabalov <ig...@exadel.com>.
I do not understand the answer. For now we have section in struts-config
with data sources definitions. AFAIK this is not “controller”
functionality. When I see two “wise men” - “Struts dad” and “JDO dad”
talking together, I suspect that there is something behind.
I believe there is something important in combination of two great
technologies – Struts and JDO. JDO “transparent persistence” can be
beneficial to almost any real web development. So, my question is – what
community think about some sort of “direct support” for JDO in Struts, - in
a form of special tags or pre-defined actions(?).
Thank you very much,
Igor Shabalov.
Struts Studio – the best IDE for Struts.
http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:01:54 -0700, Dan Tran <da...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Struts provides the MVC framework and not the specific model
> implementation.
> OJB will support full implementation of JDO in release 2.0. Please check
> OJB web site.
>
> -D
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Shabalov" <ig...@exadel.com>
> To: <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:38 PM
> Subject: Struts + JDO = ?
>
>
>>
>> Hello, all.
>>
>> I've found one very interesting session topic on JavaOne 2003 -
>> "Applying
>> Open Source Web Technologies Together: Struts and OJB". Does anybody
>> have
>> any information what is possible application for JDO in Struts
> environment?
>> Do Struts community planning to have explicit support for JDO (like
>> having
>> now support for JDBC connection pool)?
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>> Igor Shabalov.
>> Struts Studio - the best IDE for Struts.
>> http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
>>
>>
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Re: Struts + JDO = ?
Posted by Dan Tran <da...@hotmail.com>.
Struts provides the MVC framework and not the specific model implementation.
OJB will support full implementation of JDO in release 2.0. Please check
OJB web site.
-D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Shabalov" <ig...@exadel.com>
To: <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Struts + JDO = ?
>
> Hello, all.
>
> I've found one very interesting session topic on JavaOne 2003 - "Applying
> Open Source Web Technologies Together: Struts and OJB". Does anybody have
> any information what is possible application for JDO in Struts
environment?
> Do Struts community planning to have explicit support for JDO (like having
> now support for JDBC connection pool)?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Igor Shabalov.
> Struts Studio - the best IDE for Struts.
> http://www.exadel.com/products_strutsstudio.htm
>
>
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