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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by drew jensen <dr...@gmail.com> on 2012/06/25 17:34:18 UTC
Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Howdy,
Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
the way of input with some of the details.
THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
Two files added here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
(again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
What's in them currently?
cd-aoo34-bin.iso
AOO 3.4 Binaries
- Windows English(us) full install package
- All Windows language packs released with 3.4
- Windows SDK
Documents, all as PDF
- Installation Guide
- Getting Started Guide
- Administration Guide
- Basic Programmers Guide
- Developers Guide
HTML files
- Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
- Files (started from website page - done)
- Instructions (not close to done)
- Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
- Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
- License (not done)
- java (copy of website page - done)
- sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
- ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
Print ready artwork for packaging
- Thin / Tall DVD case cover
- Cut/Fold CD envelope template
- Pre-fab sleeve cover
- disk label
cd-aoo-34-src.iso
All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
along with changes to a couple of html files.
-----------
So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
Thanks
//drew
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 19:34 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> > as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >
> > The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> > the way of input with some of the details.
> >
>
> Hi Drew,
>
> Did anything come of this? We've received a few requests for AOO
> 3.4.0 CD's by those with only dial up connections.
>
> -Rob
Short answer - I decided to hold up for 3.4.1, _as soon as_ it's
released will finish this up.
//drew
<snip>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
<dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>
> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> the way of input with some of the details.
>
Hi Drew,
Did anything come of this? We've received a few requests for AOO
3.4.0 CD's by those with only dial up connections.
-Rob
> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>
> Two files added here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>
> What's in them currently?
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>
> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> - Windows English(us) full install package
> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> - Windows SDK
>
> Documents, all as PDF
> - Installation Guide
> - Getting Started Guide
> - Administration Guide
> - Basic Programmers Guide
> - Developers Guide
>
> HTML files
> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> - Files (started from website page - done)
> - Instructions (not close to done)
> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> - License (not done)
> - java (copy of website page - done)
> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>
> Print ready artwork for packaging
> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> - disk label
>
>
> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>
> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>
> -----------
>
> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>
> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>
> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>
> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>
> Thanks
>
> //drew
>
>
>
Re: [OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 16:33 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> >> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> >> >> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>> Howdy,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> >> >> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> >> >> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> >> >> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Two files added here:
> >> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> >> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> >> >> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> >> >> > image, not my CD burning.
> >> >>
> >> >> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Juergen
> >> >>
> >> >> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No it doesn't have an autorun file.
> >> >
> >> > By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
> >> > sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
> >> > about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
> >> Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
> >> not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
> >> informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
> >>
> >> What's the issue?
> >
> > What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
> > Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
> > but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that
> > - what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
> > and all that BS?
>
> We have a conf call planned for this Thursday, I don't think we have
> any blocker. The only issue I've been reading about is all about the
> fact that part of the discussion about the organization has not been
> held on the usual channels. As a result some of us were not aware of
> the fact the next ODF-Plugfest was going to be held concurrently with
> LO event, so when the news come out it was a kind of surprise.
>
> So said, we're on track to start working on making it happen.
>
> Roberto
Thanks for the reply Roberto - and sorry to digress on this list
actually.
//drew
Re: [OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Roberto Galoppini <rg...@geek.net>.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
>> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> >> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
>> >> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Howdy,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
>> >> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
>> >> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
>> >> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Two files added here:
>> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
>> >> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
>> >> > image, not my CD burning.
>> >>
>> >> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Juergen
>> >>
>> >> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No it doesn't have an autorun file.
>> >
>> > By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
>> > sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
>> > about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
>> >
>>
>> We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
>> Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
>> not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
>> informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
>>
>> What's the issue?
>
> What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
> Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
> but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that
> - what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
> and all that BS?
We have a conf call planned for this Thursday, I don't think we have
any blocker. The only issue I've been reading about is all about the
fact that part of the discussion about the organization has not been
held on the usual channels. As a result some of us were not aware of
the fact the next ODF-Plugfest was going to be held concurrently with
LO event, so when the news come out it was a kind of surprise.
So said, we're on track to start working on making it happen.
Roberto
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> >
>> >> autorun.inf:
>> >> [autorun]
>> >> open=<myloader>.exe
>> >> icon= myicon.ico
>> >>
>> >> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
>> >> files directly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > -Rob
>> >> >
>> >> >> But a few quick observations:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
>> >> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
>> >> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
>> >> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
>> >> >> that would trigger this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
>> >> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
>> >> >> saying "I don't know how"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
>> >> >> OpenOfice project"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
>> >> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Rob
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> What's in them currently?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
>> >> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
>> >> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
>> >> >>> - Windows SDK
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Documents, all as PDF
>> >> >>> - Installation Guide
>> >> >>> - Getting Started Guide
>> >> >>> - Administration Guide
>> >> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
>> >> >>> - Developers Guide
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> HTML files
>> >> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
>> >> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
>> >> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
>> >> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
>> >> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
>> >> >>> - License (not done)
>> >> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
>> >> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
>> >> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
>> >> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
>> >> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
>> >> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
>> >> >>> - disk label
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
>> >> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----------
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> //drew
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:34 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> >> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> >> >> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>> Howdy,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> >> >> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> >> >> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> >> >> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Two files added here:
> >> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> >> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> >> >> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> >> >> > image, not my CD burning.
> >> >>
> >> >> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Juergen
> >> >>
> >> >> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No it doesn't have an autorun file.
> >> >
> >> > By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
> >> > sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
> >> > about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
> >> Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
> >> not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
> >> informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
> >>
> >> What's the issue?
> >
> > What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
> > Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
> > but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that
> > - what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
> > and all that BS?
> >
>
> You'll need to ask someone in LO, probably Charles Schutz. He is the
> one making accusations My attempts to fathom what he is talking about
> have failed.
>
> In terms of facts:
>
> 1) There is a Program Committee for organizing Plugfests. They do
> their work on this mailing list:
> https://open.nlnet.nl/mailman/listinfo/plugtest-organisers
>
> 2) No one from LibreOffice has requested to use the term "ODF
> Plugfest" on this mailing list.
>
> 3) No one from LibreOffice has sent a proposal to hold a Plugfest to this list.
>
> 4) No one (to my knowledge) from IBM has opposed or even given an
> opinion on TDF hosting a Plugfest.
>
> You can review the complete thread here and correlate it to Charle's
> assertions on the LO marketing list:
>
> https://open.nlnet.nl/pipermail/plugtest-organisers/2012-June/thread.html
>
> -Rob
Thank you - I will indeed ask Charles why he said what he did then.
now back to the regularly scheduled show for this channel :)
>
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> autorun.inf:
> >> >> [autorun]
> >> >> open=<myloader>.exe
> >> >> icon= myicon.ico
> >> >>
> >> >> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
> >> >> files directly.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Rob
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> But a few quick observations:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
> >> >> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
> >> >> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
> >> >> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
> >> >> >> that would trigger this?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
> >> >> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
> >> >> >> saying "I don't know how"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
> >> >> >> OpenOfice project"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
> >> >> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Rob
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> What's in them currently?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> >> >> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
> >> >> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> >> >> >>> - Windows SDK
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Documents, all as PDF
> >> >> >>> - Installation Guide
> >> >> >>> - Getting Started Guide
> >> >> >>> - Administration Guide
> >> >> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
> >> >> >>> - Developers Guide
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> HTML files
> >> >> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> >> >> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
> >> >> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
> >> >> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> >> >> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> >> >> >>> - License (not done)
> >> >> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
> >> >> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> >> >> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
> >> >> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> >> >> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> >> >> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> >> >> >>> - disk label
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> >> >> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> -----------
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> //drew
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: [OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
>> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> >> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
>> >> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Howdy,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
>> >> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
>> >> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
>> >> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Two files added here:
>> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
>> >> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
>> >> > image, not my CD burning.
>> >>
>> >> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Juergen
>> >>
>> >> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No it doesn't have an autorun file.
>> >
>> > By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
>> > sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
>> > about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
>> >
>>
>> We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
>> Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
>> not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
>> informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
>>
>> What's the issue?
>
> What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
> Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
> but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that
> - what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
> and all that BS?
>
You'll need to ask someone in LO, probably Charles Schutz. He is the
one making accusations My attempts to fathom what he is talking about
have failed.
In terms of facts:
1) There is a Program Committee for organizing Plugfests. They do
their work on this mailing list:
https://open.nlnet.nl/mailman/listinfo/plugtest-organisers
2) No one from LibreOffice has requested to use the term "ODF
Plugfest" on this mailing list.
3) No one from LibreOffice has sent a proposal to hold a Plugfest to this list.
4) No one (to my knowledge) from IBM has opposed or even given an
opinion on TDF hosting a Plugfest.
You can review the complete thread here and correlate it to Charle's
assertions on the LO marketing list:
https://open.nlnet.nl/pipermail/plugtest-organisers/2012-June/thread.html
-Rob
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> >
>> >> autorun.inf:
>> >> [autorun]
>> >> open=<myloader>.exe
>> >> icon= myicon.ico
>> >>
>> >> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
>> >> files directly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > -Rob
>> >> >
>> >> >> But a few quick observations:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
>> >> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
>> >> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
>> >> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
>> >> >> that would trigger this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
>> >> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
>> >> >> saying "I don't know how"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
>> >> >> OpenOfice project"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
>> >> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Rob
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> What's in them currently?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
>> >> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
>> >> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
>> >> >>> - Windows SDK
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Documents, all as PDF
>> >> >>> - Installation Guide
>> >> >>> - Getting Started Guide
>> >> >>> - Administration Guide
>> >> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
>> >> >>> - Developers Guide
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> HTML files
>> >> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
>> >> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
>> >> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
>> >> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
>> >> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
>> >> >>> - License (not done)
>> >> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
>> >> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
>> >> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
>> >> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
>> >> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
>> >> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
>> >> >>> - disk label
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
>> >> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----------
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> //drew
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
[OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> >> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Howdy,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> >> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> >> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> >> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Two files added here:
> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> >> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> >> > image, not my CD burning.
> >>
> >> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
> >
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
> >>
> >
> > No it doesn't have an autorun file.
> >
> > By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
> > sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
> > about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
> >
>
> We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
> Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
> not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
> informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
>
> What's the issue?
What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF
Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference
but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that
- what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by....
and all that BS?
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> >> autorun.inf:
> >> [autorun]
> >> open=<myloader>.exe
> >> icon= myicon.ico
> >>
> >> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
> >> files directly.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > -Rob
> >> >
> >> >> But a few quick observations:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
> >> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
> >> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
> >> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
> >> >> that would trigger this?
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
> >> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
> >> >> saying "I don't know how"
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
> >> >> OpenOfice project"
> >> >>
> >> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
> >> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
> >> >>
> >> >>> What's in them currently?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
> >> >>>
> >> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> >> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
> >> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> >> >>> - Windows SDK
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Documents, all as PDF
> >> >>> - Installation Guide
> >> >>> - Getting Started Guide
> >> >>> - Administration Guide
> >> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
> >> >>> - Developers Guide
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HTML files
> >> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> >> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
> >> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
> >> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> >> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> >> >>> - License (not done)
> >> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
> >> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> >> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
> >> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> >> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> >> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> >> >>> - disk label
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> >>>
> >> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> >> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----------
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>>
> >> >>> //drew
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen
<dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
>> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Howdy,
>> >>>
>> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
>> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
>> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
>> >>>
>> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
>> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>> >>>
>> >>> Two files added here:
>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>> >>>
>> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
>> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
>> > image, not my CD burning.
>>
>> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
>>
>
> No it doesn't have an autorun file.
>
> By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
> sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
> about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
>
We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don,
Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are
not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works
informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps.
What's the issue?
-Rob
>
>> autorun.inf:
>> [autorun]
>> open=<myloader>.exe
>> icon= myicon.ico
>>
>> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
>> files directly.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > -Rob
>> >
>> >> But a few quick observations:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
>> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
>> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
>> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
>> >> that would trigger this?
>> >>
>> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
>> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
>> >> saying "I don't know how"
>> >>
>> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
>> >> OpenOfice project"
>> >>
>> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
>> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >>> What's in them currently?
>> >>>
>> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>> >>>
>> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
>> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
>> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
>> >>> - Windows SDK
>> >>>
>> >>> Documents, all as PDF
>> >>> - Installation Guide
>> >>> - Getting Started Guide
>> >>> - Administration Guide
>> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
>> >>> - Developers Guide
>> >>>
>> >>> HTML files
>> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
>> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
>> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
>> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
>> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
>> >>> - License (not done)
>> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
>> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
>> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>> >>>
>> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
>> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
>> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
>> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
>> >>> - disk label
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> >>>
>> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
>> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----------
>> >>>
>> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>> >>>
>> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>> >>>
>> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>> >>>
>> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> //drew
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew jensen <dr...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> >> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Howdy,
> >>>
> >>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> >>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >>>
> >>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> >>> the way of input with some of the details.
> >>>
> >>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> >>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >>>
> >>> Two files added here:
> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >>>
> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >>>
> >>
> >> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> >> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> > image, not my CD burning.
>
> you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
>
> Juergen
>
> PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
>
No it doesn't have an autorun file.
By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not
sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS
about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it?
> autorun.inf:
> [autorun]
> open=<myloader>.exe
> icon= myicon.ico
>
> The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
> files directly.
>
>
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >> But a few quick observations:
> >>
> >> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
> >> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
> >> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
> >> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
> >> that would trigger this?
> >>
> >> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
> >> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
> >> saying "I don't know how"
> >>
> >> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
> >> OpenOfice project"
> >>
> >> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
> >> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>> What's in them currently?
> >>>
> >>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
> >>>
> >>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> >>> - Windows English(us) full install package
> >>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> >>> - Windows SDK
> >>>
> >>> Documents, all as PDF
> >>> - Installation Guide
> >>> - Getting Started Guide
> >>> - Administration Guide
> >>> - Basic Programmers Guide
> >>> - Developers Guide
> >>>
> >>> HTML files
> >>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> >>> - Files (started from website page - done)
> >>> - Instructions (not close to done)
> >>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> >>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> >>> - License (not done)
> >>> - java (copy of website page - done)
> >>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> >>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
> >>>
> >>> Print ready artwork for packaging
> >>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> >>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> >>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> >>> - disk label
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >>>
> >>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> >>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
> >>>
> >>> -----------
> >>>
> >>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
> >>>
> >>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
> >>>
> >>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
> >>>
> >>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> //drew
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
>> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
>>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>>>
>>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
>>> the way of input with some of the details.
>>>
>>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
>>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>>>
>>> Two files added here:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>>>
>>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>>>
>>
>> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
>> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
>>
>
> Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> image, not my CD burning.
you can really burn CD's, wow ;-)
Juergen
PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file?
autorun.inf:
[autorun]
open=<myloader>.exe
icon= myicon.ico
The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html
files directly.
>
> -Rob
>
>> But a few quick observations:
>>
>> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
>> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
>> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
>> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
>> that would trigger this?
>>
>> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
>> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
>> saying "I don't know how"
>>
>> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
>> OpenOfice project"
>>
>> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
>> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> What's in them currently?
>>>
>>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>>>
>>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
>>> - Windows English(us) full install package
>>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
>>> - Windows SDK
>>>
>>> Documents, all as PDF
>>> - Installation Guide
>>> - Getting Started Guide
>>> - Administration Guide
>>> - Basic Programmers Guide
>>> - Developers Guide
>>>
>>> HTML files
>>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
>>> - Files (started from website page - done)
>>> - Instructions (not close to done)
>>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
>>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
>>> - License (not done)
>>> - java (copy of website page - done)
>>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
>>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>>>
>>> Print ready artwork for packaging
>>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
>>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
>>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
>>> - disk label
>>>
>>>
>>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>>>
>>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
>>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>>>
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>>>
>>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>>>
>>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>>>
>>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> //drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 15:20 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> > <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> >> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >>
> >> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> >> the way of input with some of the details.
> >>
> >> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> >> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >>
> >> Two files added here:
> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >>
> >> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >>
> >
> > I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> > awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
> >
>
> Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
> image, not my CD burning.
>
> -Rob
>
> > But a few quick observations:
> >
> > 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
> > is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
> > directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
> > automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
> > that would trigger this?
Right long term one would, my preference anyway, target different
audiences with these types of things. I purposefully made this a bare
bones set of files, even a little less then on the legacy iso files
distributed on the oo.o mirrors.
> >
> > 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
> > "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
> > saying "I don't know how"
Yes - that is not sufficient.
Took a quick stab at a 'Five Minute Install' type video:
http://lo-portal.us/aoo/iso/install-simple.mp4
to see last nights draft and this mornings edit ;)
> >
> > 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
> > OpenOfice project"
Yeah lots of that - did some clean up last night, will do more this
afternoon and will push a new set of files to sf tonight.
> >
> > 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
> > English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
That depends on others more then myself, I will try to put things in
such a way that anyone wanting to add a translation can do so. I don't
plan to try to tackle any language other then English personally.
//drew
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >> What's in them currently?
> >>
> >> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
> >>
> >> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> >> - Windows English(us) full install package
> >> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> >> - Windows SDK
> >>
> >> Documents, all as PDF
> >> - Installation Guide
> >> - Getting Started Guide
> >> - Administration Guide
> >> - Basic Programmers Guide
> >> - Developers Guide
> >>
> >> HTML files
> >> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> >> - Files (started from website page - done)
> >> - Instructions (not close to done)
> >> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> >> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> >> - License (not done)
> >> - java (copy of website page - done)
> >> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> >> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
> >>
> >> Print ready artwork for packaging
> >> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> >> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> >> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> >> - disk label
> >>
> >>
> >> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >>
> >> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> >> along with changes to a couple of html files.
> >>
> >> -----------
> >>
> >> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
> >>
> >> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
> >>
> >> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
> >>
> >> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> //drew
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
> <dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
>> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>>
>> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
>> the way of input with some of the details.
>>
>> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
>> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>>
>> Two files added here:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>>
>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>>
>
> I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
> awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
>
Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the
image, not my CD burning.
-Rob
> But a few quick observations:
>
> 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
> is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
> directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
> automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
> that would trigger this?
>
> 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
> "I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
> saying "I don't know how"
>
> 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
> OpenOfice project"
>
> 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
> English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
>
> -Rob
>
>> What's in them currently?
>>
>> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>>
>> AOO 3.4 Binaries
>> - Windows English(us) full install package
>> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
>> - Windows SDK
>>
>> Documents, all as PDF
>> - Installation Guide
>> - Getting Started Guide
>> - Administration Guide
>> - Basic Programmers Guide
>> - Developers Guide
>>
>> HTML files
>> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
>> - Files (started from website page - done)
>> - Instructions (not close to done)
>> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
>> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
>> - License (not done)
>> - java (copy of website page - done)
>> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
>> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>>
>> Print ready artwork for packaging
>> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
>> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
>> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
>> - disk label
>>
>>
>> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>>
>> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
>> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>>
>> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>>
>> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>>
>> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> //drew
>>
>>
>>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen
<dr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>
> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> the way of input with some of the details.
>
> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>
> Two files added here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>
I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally
awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment.
But a few quick observations:
1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it
is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the
directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to
automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else
that would trigger this?
2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text,
"I know how". Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one
saying "I don't know how"
3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header "Questions regardig the Apache
OpenOfice project"
4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in
English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added?
-Rob
> What's in them currently?
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>
> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> - Windows English(us) full install package
> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> - Windows SDK
>
> Documents, all as PDF
> - Installation Guide
> - Getting Started Guide
> - Administration Guide
> - Basic Programmers Guide
> - Developers Guide
>
> HTML files
> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> - Files (started from website page - done)
> - Instructions (not close to done)
> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> - License (not done)
> - java (copy of website page - done)
> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>
> Print ready artwork for packaging
> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> - disk label
>
>
> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>
> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>
> -----------
>
> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>
> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>
> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>
> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>
> Thanks
>
> //drew
>
>
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 08:44 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:34 AM, drew jensen wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> > as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
> >
> > The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> > the way of input with some of the details.
> >
> > THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> > this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
> >
> > Two files added here:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
> >
> > cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> > (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
> >
> > What's in them currently?
> >
> > cd-aoo34-bin.iso
> >
> > AOO 3.4 Binaries
> > - Windows English(us) full install package
> > - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> > - Windows SDK
> >
> > Documents, all as PDF
> > - Installation Guide
> > - Getting Started Guide
> > - Administration Guide
> > - Basic Programmers Guide
> > - Developers Guide
> >
> > HTML files
> > - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> > - Files (started from website page - done)
> > - Instructions (not close to done)
> > - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> > - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> > - License (not done)
> > - java (copy of website page - done)
> > - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> > - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
> >
> > Print ready artwork for packaging
> > - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> > - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> > - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> > - disk label
> >
> >
> > cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> >
> > All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> > along with changes to a couple of html files.
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
> >
> > I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
> >
> > For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
> >
> > Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
>
> EIther the naming should indicate that this is a Windows iso, or -
Howdy Dave,
yes, your right - will fix that.
>
> IMO you ought to include MacOSX and Linux installers!
I've been, in truth, hemming and hawing about actually doing this as it
means a lengthy commitment once it's 'out in the wild' - so keeping the
scope of the work product limited. Juergen, Ma and the gang will have
the image obsolete in here in just a few weeks with 3.4.1 - for example.
For the moment I would like to finish the windows only CD first. I have
a MAC version in mind, and files mostly laid out, next. After all the
details come together on this one it should be just a quick step to
merge that to the MAC.
Linux is interesting in that one could, and some do, construct it so
that the media is also a proper, mountable, package repository.
Anyway - it's a place to start from is all.
Thanks
//drew
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:34 AM, drew jensen wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use
> as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc.
>
> The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in
> the way of input with some of the details.
>
> THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have
> this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so.
>
> Two files added here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso
> (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..)
>
> What's in them currently?
>
> cd-aoo34-bin.iso
>
> AOO 3.4 Binaries
> - Windows English(us) full install package
> - All Windows language packs released with 3.4
> - Windows SDK
>
> Documents, all as PDF
> - Installation Guide
> - Getting Started Guide
> - Administration Guide
> - Basic Programmers Guide
> - Developers Guide
>
> HTML files
> - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done)
> - Files (started from website page - done)
> - Instructions (not close to done)
> - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe)
> - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done)
> - License (not done)
> - java (copy of website page - done)
> - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page)
> - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file
>
> Print ready artwork for packaging
> - Thin / Tall DVD case cover
> - Cut/Fold CD envelope template
> - Pre-fab sleeve cover
> - disk label
>
>
> cd-aoo-34-src.iso
>
> All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball,
> along with changes to a couple of html files.
>
> -----------
>
> So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still.
>
> I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point.
>
> For today I want to finish up an the install help page(s).
>
> Right now though any general feedback on _any_ of it is welcomed.
EIther the naming should indicate that this is a Windows iso, or -
IMO you ought to include MacOSX and Linux installers!
Regards,
Dave
>
> Thanks
>
> //drew
>
>
>