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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] RC Turbine Parent 8 based on staged repository

Hi,

Release votes cannot be lazy votes, for something to be called an ASF release it needs a minimum of 3 +1 votes by PMC members.

Thanks,
Justin


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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] RC Turbine Parent 8 based on staged repository

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.

Hi,

> I’m surprised to hear this. We’re talking about a parent POM here. We lent this procedure from the Commons project where lazy votes for the parent POM have been the rule for years now.

I was unaware of that.

> What changed?

I don’t think anything has changed, but there nothing in the current release policy [1] that says you can do this. Note the MUSTs there.

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] RC Turbine Parent 8 based on staged repository

Posted by Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>.

Hi Justin,

I’m surprised to hear this. We’re talking about a parent POM here. We lent this procedure from the Commons project where lazy votes for the parent POM have been the rule for years now.
What changed?

Bye, Thomas 


> Am 10.05.2021 um 08:15 schrieb Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Release votes cannot be lazy votes, for something to be called an ASF release it needs a minimum of 3 +1 votes by PMC members.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
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Re: Re: [VOTE][LAZY] RC Turbine Parent 8 based on staged repository

Posted by Georg Kallidis <ge...@cedis.fu-berlin.de>.

Hi, ok!

The Turbine PMC agreed (quite some time ago, years) to handle Turbine 
parents changes as lazy, and used to do it this way. 

But this is really better done as a "lazy consensus" instead, and will 
then be no "release" as I understand you (explained here: 
https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html).

As Turbine parents are technical a released component, we should switch 
/have to handle it like a regular release IMO.

For this (and as I can remember for the older lazy consents also) we 
received indeed 3 +1 - and did a "kind of release" follow-up. We may use 
in future either a [LAZY][CONSENT] or for this particular component IMO 
just perform a normal release voting.

Best regards, Georg



Von:    Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>
An:     <de...@turbine.apache.org>
Datum:  10.05.2021 08:16
Betreff:        Re: [VOTE][LAZY] RC Turbine Parent 8 based on staged 
repository



Hi,

Release votes cannot be lazy votes, for something to be called an ASF 
release it needs a minimum of 3 +1 votes by PMC members.

Thanks,
Justin


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