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Posted to users@openjpa.apache.org by Christopher Cudennec <c....@24technology.de> on 2016/01/04 08:50:15 UTC

Project activity

Hi everyone!

 
I’m curious about the project’s activity and future plans. 

 
Reason one: I got no answer on my previous question on the list. (Maybe auditing is not so commonly used?)

Reson two: The last commit in the SVN repository is older than 6 months. (https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/openjpa)

 
Do you have a roadmap or more information about future releases?

 
Thus far we’re still stuck with an old version of OpenJPA because we can’t upgrade to 2.4 (see former posts) but want to use Java 8. We need to know if we can still rely on OpenJPA for the next years. I hope we can :-).

 
Mit freundlichem Gruß / Kind regards / 此 致 敬 礼

 
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Re: AW: Project activity

Posted by "Leonardo K. Shikida" <sh...@gmail.com>.
do anyone know if tomee will use eclipselink instead of openjpa?

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Leo

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:28 PM, RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs> wrote:

> JPA 2.1 is getting increasingly important for my team.
>
> Hopefully some more people will come to OpenJPA sooner rather than later.
>
> Best,
> Rade
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588800.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Re: Project activity

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Oh and yet another tip:

$> mvn clean install -Dsurefire.excludes.locking=**/*

as documented in openjpa-project/BUILDING.txt
This heavily reduced build time as it skips all the timeout tests where we need to sleep 2 minutes for each test which alone takes >30 mins overall.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 16.01.2016 um 09:47 schrieb Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>:
> 
> Btw quick tip for creating patches. Please always create the patch directly from the project root. Makes it a bit easier to apply.
> 
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> 
>> Am 16.01.2016 um 09:43 schrieb Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>:
>> 
>> I hope to find a bit time next week to merge over all the stuff from trunk into the JPA-2.1 feature branch.
>> If anyone is interested to help then go on and shout out. I’ll try to apply as fast as I can ;)
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>>> Am 15.01.2016 um 14:53 schrieb RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>:
>>> 
>>> So, this looks more like management problem then problem with the devs not
>>> willing to push JPA 2.1 forward.
>>> 
>>> Would it help if you ask ASF to help you with the management part?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588816.html
>>> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> 
> 


Re: Project activity

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Btw quick tip for creating patches. Please always create the patch directly from the project root. Makes it a bit easier to apply.

txs and LieGrue,
strub


> Am 16.01.2016 um 09:43 schrieb Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>:
> 
> I hope to find a bit time next week to merge over all the stuff from trunk into the JPA-2.1 feature branch.
> If anyone is interested to help then go on and shout out. I’ll try to apply as fast as I can ;)
> 
> LieGrue,
> strub
> 
>> Am 15.01.2016 um 14:53 schrieb RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>:
>> 
>> So, this looks more like management problem then problem with the devs not
>> willing to push JPA 2.1 forward.
>> 
>> Would it help if you ask ASF to help you with the management part?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588816.html
>> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 


Re: Project activity

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
I hope to find a bit time next week to merge over all the stuff from trunk into the JPA-2.1 feature branch.
If anyone is interested to help then go on and shout out. I’ll try to apply as fast as I can ;)

LieGrue,
strub

> Am 15.01.2016 um 14:53 schrieb RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>:
> 
> So, this looks more like management problem then problem with the devs not
> willing to push JPA 2.1 forward.
> 
> Would it help if you ask ASF to help you with the management part?
> 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588816.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


Re: Project activity

Posted by RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>.
So, this looks more like management problem then problem with the devs not
willing to push JPA 2.1 forward.

Would it help if you ask ASF to help you with the management part?



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Re: Project activity

Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
I guess the starting point should be here:http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html

Could be useful to actually map or create the Jira tasks, so people that want to help (me included), could just grab something and start working on it.
Cheers,Roberto
      From: Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
 To: users@openjpa.apache.org 
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: Project activity
   
Romain started the JPA-2.1 work but we might need a bit more hands on that. 

I will also come back to openjpa in a few weeks (need to finish some other projects) and can put some time into it again.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 13.01.2016 um 14:43 schrieb RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>:
> 
> I fear that project has slowed down considerably.
> 
> I remember back in 2014 and 2015 that there were pleads from project members
> for more community involvement. In days when they were racing toward JPA 2.0
> OpenJPA was the second implementation in the world to support all the
> features fully - and mostly because most of those were already there in
> OpenJPA or were easy to implement. 
> 
> It just seems that there is waning interest in OpenJPA.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588807.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


  

Re: Project activity

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Romain started the JPA-2.1 work but we might need a bit more hands on that. 

I will also come back to openjpa in a few weeks (need to finish some other projects) and can put some time into it again.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 13.01.2016 um 14:43 schrieb RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>:
> 
> I fear that project has slowed down considerably.
> 
> I remember back in 2014 and 2015 that there were pleads from project members
> for more community involvement. In days when they were racing toward JPA 2.0
> OpenJPA was the second implementation in the world to support all the
> features fully - and mostly because most of those were already there in
> OpenJPA or were easy to implement. 
> 
> It just seems that there is waning interest in OpenJPA.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: http://openjpa.208410.n2.nabble.com/Project-activity-tp7588789p7588807.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


Re: AW: AW: Project activity

Posted by RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>.
I fear that project has slowed down considerably.

I remember back in 2014 and 2015 that there were pleads from project members
for more community involvement. In days when they were racing toward JPA 2.0
OpenJPA was the second implementation in the world to support all the
features fully - and mostly because most of those were already there in
OpenJPA or were easy to implement. 

It just seems that there is waning interest in OpenJPA.



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Re: AW: AW: Project activity

Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Yes, I've been posting and asking this question for a long time. Not much information has been posted by the project leads regarding the future plans.
It would be great if we could have some information.
Cheers,Roberto
      From: Christopher Cudennec <c....@24technology.de>
 To: "users@openjpa.apache.org" <us...@openjpa.apache.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:02 AM
 Subject: AW: AW: Project activity
   
Hi everyone,

at least there seems to be roadmap for JPA 2.1. Unfortunately the documents look really outdated:
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-roadmap.html
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-development-process.html

Maybe I'll try to contact one oft he guys who post on the dev mailing list to get more information.

Cheers,

Christopher

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: RadeMartinovic [mailto:rade@rcub.bg.ac.rs] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2016 17:29
An: users@openjpa.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Project activity

JPA 2.1 is getting increasingly important for my team.

Hopefully some more people will come to OpenJPA sooner rather than later.

Best,
Rade



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AW: AW: Project activity

Posted by Christopher Cudennec <c....@24technology.de>.
Hi everyone,

at least there seems to be roadmap for JPA 2.1. Unfortunately the documents look really outdated:
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-roadmap.html
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-tasks.html
- http://openjpa.apache.org/jpa-2.1-development-process.html

Maybe I'll try to contact one oft he guys who post on the dev mailing list to get more information.

Cheers,

Christopher

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: RadeMartinovic [mailto:rade@rcub.bg.ac.rs] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2016 17:29
An: users@openjpa.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Project activity

JPA 2.1 is getting increasingly important for my team.

Hopefully some more people will come to OpenJPA sooner rather than later.

Best,
Rade



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Re: AW: Project activity

Posted by RadeMartinovic <ra...@rcub.bg.ac.rs>.
JPA 2.1 is getting increasingly important for my team.

Hopefully some more people will come to OpenJPA sooner rather than later.

Best,
Rade



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Re: AW: Project activity

Posted by Roberto Cortez <ra...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi,
Unfortunately, it seems that there is no news regarding JPA 2.1 support.
There is a SVN sandbox with some work on it:http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/sandboxes/21/

But not much work has been done recently.
It would be great to hear from the project leads regarding the plans for JPA 2.1. I'm in to contribute to the efforts.
Cheers,Roberto
      From: Christopher Cudennec <c....@24technology.de>
 To: "users@openjpa.apache.org" <us...@openjpa.apache.org> 
 Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:25 AM
 Subject: AW: Project activity
   
Hi Francesco!

Thanks for "svn info-ing" :-). That's good to know! Mistakenly I relied on the Fisheye graph.

Cheers,

Christopher

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org] 
Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2016 09:18
An: users@openjpa.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Project activity

On 04/01/2016 08:50, Christopher Cudennec wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> I’m curious about the project’s activity and future plans.

Hi Christopher,
I am not an OpenJPA dev, just a plain user.

Anyway...

> Reason one: I got no answer on my previous question on the list. 
> (Maybe auditing is not so commonly used?)

Your question dates Dec 15th, with holiday season in between, I'd suggest to wait a bit more ;-) I wish I could provide any help, but the topic is quite unknown to me, sorry.

> Reson two: The last commit in the SVN repository is older than 6 
> months. (https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/openjpa)

svn info http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openjpa

shows last commit on rev 1719469, 2015-12-11 17:27:33 +0100 by rmannibucau

so less than one month ago (don't know when fisheye is updated).

You can take a look at GitHub mirror for some easier and fancier reading:

https://github.com/apache/openjpa/commits/trunk

> Do you have a roadmap or more information about future releases?
>
>  
> Thus far we’re still stuck with an old version of OpenJPA because we can’t upgrade to 2.4 (see former posts) but want to use Java 8. We need to know if we can still rely on OpenJPA for the next years. I hope we can :-).

FYI, at Apache Syncope we are using OpenJPA 2.4, with compatibility set for Java 1.7, but running everywhere (CI, development, production) with JDK 8 with no relevant issues so far.

Having said that, I am also interested in understanding project roadmap (especially related to JPA 2.1 compatibility).

Regards.

--
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/

Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC, CXF committer http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/




  

AW: Project activity

Posted by Christopher Cudennec <c....@24technology.de>.
Hi Francesco!

Thanks for "svn info-ing" :-). That's good to know! Mistakenly I relied on the Fisheye graph.

Cheers,

Christopher

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Francesco Chicchiriccò [mailto:ilgrosso@apache.org] 
Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2016 09:18
An: users@openjpa.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Project activity

On 04/01/2016 08:50, Christopher Cudennec wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> I’m curious about the project’s activity and future plans.

Hi Christopher,
I am not an OpenJPA dev, just a plain user.

Anyway...

> Reason one: I got no answer on my previous question on the list. 
> (Maybe auditing is not so commonly used?)

Your question dates Dec 15th, with holiday season in between, I'd suggest to wait a bit more ;-) I wish I could provide any help, but the topic is quite unknown to me, sorry.

> Reson two: The last commit in the SVN repository is older than 6 
> months. (https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/openjpa)

svn info http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openjpa

shows last commit on rev 1719469, 2015-12-11 17:27:33 +0100 by rmannibucau

so less than one month ago (don't know when fisheye is updated).

You can take a look at GitHub mirror for some easier and fancier reading:

https://github.com/apache/openjpa/commits/trunk

> Do you have a roadmap or more information about future releases?
>
>   
> Thus far we’re still stuck with an old version of OpenJPA because we can’t upgrade to 2.4 (see former posts) but want to use Java 8. We need to know if we can still rely on OpenJPA for the next years. I hope we can :-).

FYI, at Apache Syncope we are using OpenJPA 2.4, with compatibility set for Java 1.7, but running everywhere (CI, development, production) with JDK 8 with no relevant issues so far.

Having said that, I am also interested in understanding project roadmap (especially related to JPA 2.1 compatibility).

Regards.

--
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/

Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC, CXF committer http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/




Re: Project activity

Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 04/01/2016 08:50, Christopher Cudennec wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> I’m curious about the project’s activity and future plans.

Hi Christopher,
I am not an OpenJPA dev, just a plain user.

Anyway...

> Reason one: I got no answer on my previous question on the list. (Maybe auditing is not so commonly used?)

Your question dates Dec 15th, with holiday season in between, I'd 
suggest to wait a bit more ;-)
I wish I could provide any help, but the topic is quite unknown to me, 
sorry.

> Reson two: The last commit in the SVN repository is older than 6 months. (https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/graph/openjpa)

svn info http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openjpa

shows last commit on rev 1719469, 2015-12-11 17:27:33 +0100 by rmannibucau

so less than one month ago (don't know when fisheye is updated).

You can take a look at GitHub mirror for some easier and fancier reading:

https://github.com/apache/openjpa/commits/trunk

> Do you have a roadmap or more information about future releases?
>
>   
> Thus far we’re still stuck with an old version of OpenJPA because we can’t upgrade to 2.4 (see former posts) but want to use Java 8. We need to know if we can still rely on OpenJPA for the next years. I hope we can :-).

FYI, at Apache Syncope we are using OpenJPA 2.4, with compatibility set 
for Java 1.7, but running everywhere (CI, development, production) with 
JDK 8 with no relevant issues so far.

Having said that, I am also interested in understanding project roadmap 
(especially related to JPA 2.1 compatibility).

Regards.

-- 
Francesco Chicchiriccò

Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/

Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC, CXF committer
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/