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Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Anyone have a link to a cheatsheet that translates RedHat Enterprise's
backported patch levels for Apache products to Apache Tomcat's original
patch levels? I'm not able to find it via Google or RHN.
Thanks in advance!
Brandie
RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Peter Crowther <Pe...@melandra.com>.
> From: Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com
> I was hoping someone around here was using
> RedHat-sourced Apache products, too.
Several of us try quite hard not to, typically because of these repackaging problems and black holes. I've moved away from DeadRat packages over the last decade*, simply because I don't know what's in them.
Unfortunately, that doesn't help you in your current situation!
- Peter
* No, it's not a typo
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RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Br...@wellsfargo.com.
Thanks, Ben and Steve. I knew RedHat backported and changed version
numbers, but did not realize they only backported security fixes and not new
functionality. This goes back to not being able to -find- the documentation
to determine what ends up where. I was hoping someone around here was using
RedHat-sourced Apache products, too.
Thanks again!
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ochani [mailto:ochanis@ncc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Date sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:57:17 +1000
From: Ben Stringer <be...@burbong.com>
Subject: RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
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> Hi Brandie,
>
> My understanding is that Redhat maintain the version numbering that
> they receive from upstream, and the only "patching" they are doing is
> repackaging the tomcat releases to fit in with the Redhat distro (ie.
> moving files around to fit their packaging structure).
>
> So if you download (from instance) tomcat5-5.0.28-2jpp_5rh.rpm from
> RHN, you are getting the Apache Tomcat 5.0.28 release. Redhat use (and
> sponsor) jpackage.org, so you may find more information there.
>
> If my understand is incorrect (and it may be) I'd like to know - this
> has always been my belief.
Almost but not 100% correct. Redhat "backports" updates/fixes and then
repackages programs. If you have for ex. Redhat 5 and it comes with program
version 5.x.y that program will always be at 5 for the life cycle of Redhat
5 but they will take fixes and patches from program versions 5 and 6 and
"backport" them to their version of 5.
This, to my knowledge, is only done for fixes/security updates, not for new
features in the programs.
-Steve O.
RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Steve Ochani <oc...@ncc.edu>.
Date sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:57:17 +1000
From: Ben Stringer <be...@burbong.com>
Subject: RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
To: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Send reply to: Tomcat Users List <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Hi Brandie,
>
> My understanding is that Redhat maintain the version numbering that
> they receive from upstream, and the only "patching" they are doing is
> repackaging the tomcat releases to fit in with the Redhat distro (ie.
> moving files around to fit their packaging structure).
>
> So if you download (from instance) tomcat5-5.0.28-2jpp_5rh.rpm from
> RHN, you are getting the Apache Tomcat 5.0.28 release. Redhat use (and
> sponsor) jpackage.org, so you may find more information there.
>
> If my understand is incorrect (and it may be) I'd like to know - this
> has always been my belief.
Almost but not 100% correct. Redhat "backports" updates/fixes and then repackages
programs. If you have for ex. Redhat 5 and it comes with program version 5.x.y that program
will always be at 5 for the life cycle of Redhat 5 but they will take fixes and patches from
program versions 5 and 6 and "backport" them to their version of 5.
This, to my knowledge, is only done for fixes/security updates, not for new features in the
programs.
-Steve O.
>
> Cheers, Ben
>
> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:50 -0500, Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com
> wrote: > RHN = RedHat Network, which is where you find their errata. >
> > They may document it just fine, I just can't find their document. :)
> I've > tried asking a RedHat sales rep, also, and I'm still coming up
> empty-handed. > I was hoping asking the Apache mailing lists might
> turn up something. > > Thanks! > Brandie > > > -----Original
> Message----- > From: Christopher Schultz
> [mailto:chris@christopherschultz.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008
> 11:36 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Redhat patch level
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> Brandie, > > Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com wrote: > | Anyone have a
> link to a cheatsheet that translates RedHat Enterprise's > |
> backported patch levels for Apache products to Apache Tomcat's > |
> original patch levels? I'm not able to find it via Google or RHN. > >
> We certainly do not keep such a list. Does RedHat not properly
> document that > mapping? > > - -chris
>
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RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Ben Stringer <be...@burbong.com>.
Hi Brandie,
My understanding is that Redhat maintain the version numbering that they
receive from upstream, and the only "patching" they are doing is
repackaging the tomcat releases to fit in with the Redhat distro (ie.
moving files around to fit their packaging structure).
So if you download (from instance) tomcat5-5.0.28-2jpp_5rh.rpm from RHN,
you are getting the Apache Tomcat 5.0.28 release. Redhat use (and
sponsor) jpackage.org, so you may find more information there.
If my understand is incorrect (and it may be) I'd like to know - this
has always been my belief.
Cheers, Ben
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:50 -0500, Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com wrote:
> RHN = RedHat Network, which is where you find their errata.
>
> They may document it just fine, I just can't find their document. :) I've
> tried asking a RedHat sales rep, also, and I'm still coming up empty-handed.
> I was hoping asking the Apache mailing lists might turn up something.
>
> Thanks!
> Brandie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:chris@christopherschultz.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
>
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> Brandie,
>
> Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com wrote:
> | Anyone have a link to a cheatsheet that translates RedHat Enterprise's
> | backported patch levels for Apache products to Apache Tomcat's
> | original patch levels? I'm not able to find it via Google or RHN.
>
> We certainly do not keep such a list. Does RedHat not properly document that
> mapping?
>
> - -chris
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RE: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Br...@wellsfargo.com.
RHN = RedHat Network, which is where you find their errata.
They may document it just fine, I just can't find their document. :) I've
tried asking a RedHat sales rep, also, and I'm still coming up empty-handed.
I was hoping asking the Apache mailing lists might turn up something.
Thanks!
Brandie
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:chris@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
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Brandie,
Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com wrote:
| Anyone have a link to a cheatsheet that translates RedHat Enterprise's
| backported patch levels for Apache products to Apache Tomcat's
| original patch levels? I'm not able to find it via Google or RHN.
We certainly do not keep such a list. Does RedHat not properly document that
mapping?
- -chris
Re: Redhat patch level cheatsheet?
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Brandie,
Brandie.B.Huber@wellsfargo.com wrote:
| Anyone have a link to a cheatsheet that translates RedHat Enterprise's
| backported patch levels for Apache products to Apache Tomcat's original
| patch levels? I'm not able to find it via Google or RHN.
We certainly do not keep such a list. Does RedHat not properly document
that mapping?
- -chris
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