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Posted to general@hadoop.apache.org by Thomas Koch <th...@koch.ro> on 2010/08/24 11:43:45 UTC

apache commons configuration

Hi,

just out of curiosity: Is there any particular reason, why Hadoop projects or 
ZooKeeper do not use apache commons configuration[1]?
I'm just evaluating it for an internal project. Would you recommend it or not?
I imagine, that it could help to make projects configurable either via XML or 
INI files. Some people may prefer one or the other.

[1] http://commons.apache.org/configuration/

Best regards,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro

SXSW Interactive Big Data Panel Session - Community Votes required

Posted by Stephen Watt <sw...@us.ibm.com>.
Hi Folks

15,000 people attended SXSW Interactive last year. As such, a couple of 
folks from the Apache Hadoop and Cassandra community have joined up to put 
together a "Big Data for everyone" panel at SXSW next year. The intent is 
to proselytize both the Online and Offline Big Data stack (incl. HBase, 
Pig, Hive, etc.) to the as yet uninformed. There are no agendas here other 
than getting the word out and educating the audience. 

Acceptance to SXSW is partially democratic and community votes for the 
session greatly affect the outcome. 

If you have a few minutes, please sign up and vote for our panel. We'd 
really appreciate it. Voting closes on Friday.

http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/ideas/view/7475

Regards
Steve Watt

August Austin Hadoop User Group Meeting

Posted by Stephen Watt <sw...@us.ibm.com>.
Hi Folks 

For those in the Austin, Texas area we'll be meeting again this Thursday 
evening (8/26). Karmasphere and Pentaho will be presenting and I'll also 
be giving a quick introduction to Hadoop for all the new attendees before 
we begin.

Full details are available here - 
http://austinhug.blogspot.com/2010/08/august-meeting-826.html

Regards
Steve Watt 



From:
Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>
To:
general@hadoop.apache.org
Date:
08/24/2010 05:25 AM
Subject:
Re: apache commons configuration



On 24/08/10 10:43, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just out of curiosity: Is there any particular reason, why Hadoop 
projects or
> ZooKeeper do not use apache commons configuration[1]?
> I'm just evaluating it for an internal project. Would you recommend it 
or not?
> I imagine, that it could help to make projects configurable either via 
XML or
> INI files. Some people may prefer one or the other.
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/configuration/

Someone's discussed it, I'm against because (a) there's a lot of 
historical configuration stuff in there, (b) ini files are less flexible 
than XML, (c) neither of them are very dynamic. when the NN goes down 
and you want the DNs to reconnect to a different host, how do you do 
that when all data is read at start time?





Re: apache commons configuration

Posted by Allen Wittenauer <aw...@linkedin.com>.
On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Bob Li wrote:

> Hi experts,
> 
> For hadoop 0.20.2, we have following task tracker configuration
> <property>
>    <name>mapred.local.dir</name>
>    <value>/data/mapred/local</value>
>  </property>
> 
> It seems not what I expected -- the directory /tmp/hadoop-user/mapred/local
> was used.
> 
> Any suggestion?


Config problems like this seem to usually be traced back to broken XML formatting prior to this entry or the property being in the wrong file (in this case, it should be in mapred-site.xml).




Re: apache commons configuration

Posted by Bob Li <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi experts,

For hadoop 0.20.2, we have following task tracker configuration
 <property>
    <name>mapred.local.dir</name>
    <value>/data/mapred/local</value>
  </property>

It seems not what I expected -- the directory /tmp/hadoop-user/mapred/local
was used.

Any suggestion?

Thanks,
Bob

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com>wrote:

> For some recent discussion, see
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-6910
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 24/08/10 10:43, Thomas Koch wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> just out of curiosity: Is there any particular reason, why Hadoop
> projects
> >> or
> >> ZooKeeper do not use apache commons configuration[1]?
> >> I'm just evaluating it for an internal project. Would you recommend it
> or
> >> not?
> >> I imagine, that it could help to make projects configurable either via
> XML
> >> or
> >> INI files. Some people may prefer one or the other.
> >>
> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/configuration/
> >>
> >
> > Someone's discussed it, I'm against because (a) there's a lot of
> historical
> > configuration stuff in there, (b) ini files are less flexible than XML,
> (c)
> > neither of them are very dynamic. when the NN goes down and you want the
> DNs
> > to reconnect to a different host, how do you do that when all data is
> read
> > at start time?
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: apache commons configuration

Posted by Jeff Hammerbacher <ha...@cloudera.com>.
For some recent discussion, see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-6910

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 24/08/10 10:43, Thomas Koch wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just out of curiosity: Is there any particular reason, why Hadoop projects
>> or
>> ZooKeeper do not use apache commons configuration[1]?
>> I'm just evaluating it for an internal project. Would you recommend it or
>> not?
>> I imagine, that it could help to make projects configurable either via XML
>> or
>> INI files. Some people may prefer one or the other.
>>
>> [1] http://commons.apache.org/configuration/
>>
>
> Someone's discussed it, I'm against because (a) there's a lot of historical
> configuration stuff in there, (b) ini files are less flexible than XML, (c)
> neither of them are very dynamic. when the NN goes down and you want the DNs
> to reconnect to a different host, how do you do that when all data is read
> at start time?
>
>
>

Re: apache commons configuration

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
On 24/08/10 10:43, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just out of curiosity: Is there any particular reason, why Hadoop projects or
> ZooKeeper do not use apache commons configuration[1]?
> I'm just evaluating it for an internal project. Would you recommend it or not?
> I imagine, that it could help to make projects configurable either via XML or
> INI files. Some people may prefer one or the other.
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/configuration/

Someone's discussed it, I'm against because (a) there's a lot of 
historical configuration stuff in there, (b) ini files are less flexible 
than XML, (c) neither of them are very dynamic. when the NN goes down 
and you want the DNs to reconnect to a different host, how do you do 
that when all data is read at start time?