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Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Hi guys,
I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got slower
to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and around 50
processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the root
level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not fluid).
When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I have
locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older versions.
Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
Has anyone experienced the same?
I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to check with
the community first.
Thanks!
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>.
Just to give an update on this in case someone else has the same issue: the
last version of Firefox (60.0) solved the problem.
Pierre
2018-04-04 19:58 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>:
> OK... that's weird. I also have the same issue when running FF in safe
> mode (with no plugin enabled at all).
>
> When running the performance tool, I've this kind of result (if the
> picture is going through the mailing list):
>
>
>
> This is just for moving from one place to another on the root canvas. The
> green being "Paint" events.
>
> Not sure it could relate to something else running on my Mac since I don't
> see the issue at all with Chrome. But nothing unusual running on it as far
> as I know...
>
>
>
> 2018-04-04 19:50 GMT+02:00 Scott Aslan <sc...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I just upgraded to Firefox 59.0.2 (from 58) on my Mac. I am also not
>> seeing
>> any glaring performance difference between FF and Chrome and I also would
>> say FF 59 is faster than the previous version.
>>
>> Pierre, are you running any other plugins for FF or any other software on
>> your Mac that may impact overall performance?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Matt Gilman <ma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have not had a chance to fully dig in but I upgraded from Firefox 57
>> to
>> > Firefox 59. While there is nothing quantitative behind this Firefox 59
>> > seemed to have better performance. I'll continue investigating and
>> digging
>> > through some Firefox tickets to see if there is anything interesting.
>> > Additionally, Firefox 59 seemed to be on par with Chrome 65.
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Michael Moser <mo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Adding a data point: using Firefox for Linux 64-bit, I see no
>> difference
>> > > between Firefox 58.0.2 and 59.0.2. Neither exhibit a slow canvas with
>> > the
>> > > NiFi UI.
>> > >
>> > > -- Mike
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Pierre Villard <
>> > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
>> > > > One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional
>> > with
>> > > > the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but
>> > just
>> > > > wanted to add the info.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this:
>> > > layers.omtp.enabled
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <
>> mikerthomsen@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
>> > > > > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so
>> > > far...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the
>> "Paint"
>> > > event
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!)
>> > when
>> > > I
>> > > > > move
>> > > > > >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the
>> > release
>> > > > note
>> > > > > >> of
>> > > > > >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac
>> users
>> > > > (Mike,
>> > > > > >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
>> > > > > >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for
>> > Windows
>> > > > was
>> > > > > >> released in Firefox 58)".
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using
>> > Windows
>> > > > > could
>> > > > > >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
>> > > > > >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
>> > > > > relevant...
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
>> > > > > >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
>> > > > > thread-painting/
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <
>> mikerthomsen@gmail.com>:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a
>> LTS
>> > > > version
>> > > > > >> of
>> > > > > >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it
>> > should
>> > > > be
>> > > > > >> filed
>> > > > > >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
>> > > > > >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
>> > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x
>> and
>> > > > 59.x.
>> > > > > >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably
>> > use
>> > > > > >> Chrome in
>> > > > > >> > > the meantime :)
>> > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
>> > > > > >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
>> > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > >> > > > Hi guys,
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it
>> seems
>> > it
>> > > > got
>> > > > > >> > slower
>> > > > > >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs
>> > and
>> > > > > >> around 50
>> > > > > >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to
>> another at
>> > > the
>> > > > > >> root
>> > > > > >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is
>> intermittent/broken
>> > > (not
>> > > > > >> > fluid).
>> > > > > >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at
>> all.
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a
>> NiFi
>> > > > 1.3.0 I
>> > > > > >> have
>> > > > > >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with
>> the
>> > > older
>> > > > > >> > > versions.
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to
>> Firefox
>> > > > 59.x.
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but
>> wanted
>> > > to
>> > > > > >> check
>> > > > > >> > > with
>> > > > > >> > > > the community first.
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>.
OK... that's weird. I also have the same issue when running FF in safe mode
(with no plugin enabled at all).
When running the performance tool, I've this kind of result (if the picture
is going through the mailing list):
This is just for moving from one place to another on the root canvas. The
green being "Paint" events.
Not sure it could relate to something else running on my Mac since I don't
see the issue at all with Chrome. But nothing unusual running on it as far
as I know...
2018-04-04 19:50 GMT+02:00 Scott Aslan <sc...@gmail.com>:
> I just upgraded to Firefox 59.0.2 (from 58) on my Mac. I am also not seeing
> any glaring performance difference between FF and Chrome and I also would
> say FF 59 is faster than the previous version.
>
> Pierre, are you running any other plugins for FF or any other software on
> your Mac that may impact overall performance?
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Matt Gilman <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have not had a chance to fully dig in but I upgraded from Firefox 57 to
> > Firefox 59. While there is nothing quantitative behind this Firefox 59
> > seemed to have better performance. I'll continue investigating and
> digging
> > through some Firefox tickets to see if there is anything interesting.
> > Additionally, Firefox 59 seemed to be on par with Chrome 65.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Michael Moser <mo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Adding a data point: using Firefox for Linux 64-bit, I see no
> difference
> > > between Firefox 58.0.2 and 59.0.2. Neither exhibit a slow canvas with
> > the
> > > NiFi UI.
> > >
> > > -- Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
> > > > One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional
> > with
> > > > the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but
> > just
> > > > wanted to add the info.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this:
> > > layers.omtp.enabled
> > > > >
> > > > > Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <
> mikerthomsen@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > > > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so
> > > far...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint"
> > > event
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!)
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > move
> > > > > >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the
> > release
> > > > note
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac
> users
> > > > (Mike,
> > > > > >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> > > > > >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for
> > Windows
> > > > was
> > > > > >> released in Firefox 58)".
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using
> > Windows
> > > > > could
> > > > > >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> > > > > >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
> > > > > relevant...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> > > > > >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
> > > > > thread-painting/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mikerthomsen@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS
> > > > version
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it
> > should
> > > > be
> > > > > >> filed
> > > > > >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > > > >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x
> and
> > > > 59.x.
> > > > > >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably
> > use
> > > > > >> Chrome in
> > > > > >> > > the meantime :)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
> > > > > >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it
> seems
> > it
> > > > got
> > > > > >> > slower
> > > > > >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs
> > and
> > > > > >> around 50
> > > > > >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another
> at
> > > the
> > > > > >> root
> > > > > >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is
> intermittent/broken
> > > (not
> > > > > >> > fluid).
> > > > > >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi
> > > > 1.3.0 I
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the
> > > older
> > > > > >> > > versions.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to
> Firefox
> > > > 59.x.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but
> wanted
> > > to
> > > > > >> check
> > > > > >> > > with
> > > > > >> > > > the community first.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Scott Aslan <sc...@gmail.com>.
I just upgraded to Firefox 59.0.2 (from 58) on my Mac. I am also not seeing
any glaring performance difference between FF and Chrome and I also would
say FF 59 is faster than the previous version.
Pierre, are you running any other plugins for FF or any other software on
your Mac that may impact overall performance?
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Matt Gilman <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not had a chance to fully dig in but I upgraded from Firefox 57 to
> Firefox 59. While there is nothing quantitative behind this Firefox 59
> seemed to have better performance. I'll continue investigating and digging
> through some Firefox tickets to see if there is anything interesting.
> Additionally, Firefox 59 seemed to be on par with Chrome 65.
>
> Matt
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Michael Moser <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Adding a data point: using Firefox for Linux 64-bit, I see no difference
> > between Firefox 58.0.2 and 59.0.2. Neither exhibit a slow canvas with
> the
> > NiFi UI.
> >
> > -- Mike
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
> > > One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional
> with
> > > the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but
> just
> > > wanted to add the info.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this:
> > layers.omtp.enabled
> > > >
> > > > Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <mikerthomsen@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so
> > far...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint"
> > event
> > > > of
> > > > >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!)
> when
> > I
> > > > move
> > > > >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the
> release
> > > note
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users
> > > (Mike,
> > > > >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> > > > >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for
> Windows
> > > was
> > > > >> released in Firefox 58)".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using
> Windows
> > > > could
> > > > >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> > > > >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
> > > > relevant...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> > > > >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
> > > > thread-painting/
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS
> > > version
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it
> should
> > > be
> > > > >> filed
> > > > >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > > >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and
> > > 59.x.
> > > > >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably
> use
> > > > >> Chrome in
> > > > >> > > the meantime :)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
> > > > >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems
> it
> > > got
> > > > >> > slower
> > > > >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs
> and
> > > > >> around 50
> > > > >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at
> > the
> > > > >> root
> > > > >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken
> > (not
> > > > >> > fluid).
> > > > >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi
> > > 1.3.0 I
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the
> > older
> > > > >> > > versions.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox
> > > 59.x.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted
> > to
> > > > >> check
> > > > >> > > with
> > > > >> > > > the community first.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks!
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Matt Gilman <ma...@gmail.com>.
I have not had a chance to fully dig in but I upgraded from Firefox 57 to
Firefox 59. While there is nothing quantitative behind this Firefox 59
seemed to have better performance. I'll continue investigating and digging
through some Firefox tickets to see if there is anything interesting.
Additionally, Firefox 59 seemed to be on par with Chrome 65.
Matt
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Michael Moser <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adding a data point: using Firefox for Linux 64-bit, I see no difference
> between Firefox 58.0.2 and 59.0.2. Neither exhibit a slow canvas with the
> NiFi UI.
>
> -- Mike
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Pierre Villard <
> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
> > One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional with
> > the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but just
> > wanted to add the info.
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this:
> layers.omtp.enabled
> > >
> > > Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so
> far...
> > > >>
> > > >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint"
> event
> > > of
> > > >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when
> I
> > > move
> > > >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release
> > note
> > > >> of
> > > >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users
> > (Mike,
> > > >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> > > >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows
> > was
> > > >> released in Firefox 58)".
> > > >>
> > > >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows
> > > could
> > > >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> > > >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
> > > relevant...
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> > > >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
> > > thread-painting/
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS
> > version
> > > >> of
> > > >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should
> > be
> > > >> filed
> > > >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and
> > 59.x.
> > > >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use
> > > >> Chrome in
> > > >> > > the meantime :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
> > > >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it
> > got
> > > >> > slower
> > > >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and
> > > >> around 50
> > > >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at
> the
> > > >> root
> > > >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken
> (not
> > > >> > fluid).
> > > >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi
> > 1.3.0 I
> > > >> have
> > > >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the
> older
> > > >> > > versions.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox
> > 59.x.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted
> to
> > > >> check
> > > >> > > with
> > > >> > > > the community first.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Michael Moser <mo...@gmail.com>.
Adding a data point: using Firefox for Linux 64-bit, I see no difference
between Firefox 58.0.2 and 59.0.2. Neither exhibit a slow canvas with the
NiFi UI.
-- Mike
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
> One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional with
> the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but just
> wanted to add the info.
>
>
> 2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this: layers.omtp.enabled
> >
> > Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so far...
> > >>
> > >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint" event
> > of
> > >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when I
> > move
> > >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release
> note
> > >> of
> > >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users
> (Mike,
> > >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> > >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows
> was
> > >> released in Firefox 58)".
> > >>
> > >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows
> > could
> > >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> > >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
> > relevant...
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> > >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
> > thread-painting/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS
> version
> > >> of
> > >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> > >> >
> > >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should
> be
> > >> filed
> > >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and
> 59.x.
> > >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use
> > >> Chrome in
> > >> > > the meantime :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
> > >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi guys,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it
> got
> > >> > slower
> > >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and
> > >> around 50
> > >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the
> > >> root
> > >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not
> > >> > fluid).
> > >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi
> 1.3.0 I
> > >> have
> > >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
> > >> > > versions.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox
> 59.x.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to
> > >> check
> > >> > > with
> > >> > > > the community first.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>.
Yep, same here Mike, back to square one I guess...
One additional remark: paint event duration seems to be proportional with
the number of elements to paint on the UI. Not really surprising but just
wanted to add the info.
2018-04-03 21:12 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this: layers.omtp.enabled
>
> Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so far...
> >>
> >> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint" event
> of
> >> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when I
> move
> >> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release note
> >> of
> >> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users (Mike,
> >> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> >> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows was
> >> released in Firefox 58)".
> >>
> >> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows
> could
> >> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> >> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really
> relevant...
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> >> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-
> thread-painting/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS version
> >> of
> >> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> >> >
> >> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should be
> >> filed
> >> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> >> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
> >> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use
> >> Chrome in
> >> > > the meantime :)
> >> > >
> >> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
> >> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi guys,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got
> >> > slower
> >> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and
> >> around 50
> >> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the
> >> root
> >> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not
> >> > fluid).
> >> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I
> >> have
> >> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
> >> > > versions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to
> >> check
> >> > > with
> >> > > > the community first.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>.
Found on Reddit that you can toggle OMTP using this: layers.omtp.enabled
Disabled it and restarted. Didn't seem to do any good.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <
> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so far...
>>
>> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint" event of
>> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when I move
>> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release note
>> of
>> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users (Mike,
>> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
>> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows was
>> released in Firefox 58)".
>>
>> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows could
>> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
>> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really relevant...
>>
>> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
>> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-thread-painting/
>>
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS version
>> of
>> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
>> >
>> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should be
>> filed
>> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
>> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
>> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use
>> Chrome in
>> > > the meantime :)
>> > >
>> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <
>> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi guys,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got
>> > slower
>> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and
>> around 50
>> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the
>> root
>> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not
>> > fluid).
>> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
>> > > >
>> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I
>> have
>> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
>> > > versions.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
>> > > >
>> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
>> > > >
>> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to
>> check
>> > > with
>> > > > the community first.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I'm using a Mac.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so far...
>
> When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint" event of
> the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when I move
> from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release note of
> Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users (Mike,
> are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
> Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows was
> released in Firefox 58)".
>
> So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows could
> help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
> I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really relevant...
>
> [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
> [2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-thread-painting/
>
>
>
> 2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS version of
> > Firefox so I can keep going there.
> >
> > While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should be
> filed
> > as a bug report to Mozilla.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> > pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
> > > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use Chrome
> in
> > > the meantime :)
> > >
> > > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> >:
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got
> > slower
> > > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and around
> 50
> > > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the root
> > > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not
> > fluid).
> > > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > > >
> > > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I
> have
> > > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
> > > versions.
> > > >
> > > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > > >
> > > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to check
> > > with
> > > > the community first.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>.
I've been trying to debug this one and here are my findings so far...
When debugging performance with the developer tools, the "Paint" event of
the page is what is taking so long (between 3.5s to 5.5s (!!!) when I move
from one place to another on the root canvas). Based on the release note of
Firefox 59.0 [1], I see that there is something new for Mac users (Mike,
are you also using a Mac?): "Improved graphics rendering using
Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) [2] for Mac users (OMTP for Windows was
released in Firefox 58)".
So it seems to be related to this new feature(someone using Windows could
help conf irming if it's also slow using Firefox 58.x.).
I tried to find existing bugs but didn't find anything really relevant...
[1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/
[2] https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/off-main-thread-painting/
2018-04-03 16:00 GMT+02:00 Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>:
> I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS version of
> Firefox so I can keep going there.
>
> While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should be filed
> as a bug report to Mozilla.
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <
> pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
> > I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use Chrome in
> > the meantime :)
> >
> > 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got
> slower
> > > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and around 50
> > > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the root
> > > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not
> fluid).
> > > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> > >
> > > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I have
> > > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
> > versions.
> > >
> > > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
> > >
> > > Has anyone experienced the same?
> > >
> > > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to check
> > with
> > > the community first.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Mike Thomsen <mi...@gmail.com>.
I experienced it yesterday as well. I'm about to install a LTS version of
Firefox so I can keep going there.
While someone from the UI side figures this out, I think it should be filed
as a bug report to Mozilla.
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Pierre Villard <pierre.villard.fr@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
> I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use Chrome in
> the meantime :)
>
> 2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got slower
> > to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and around 50
> > processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the root
> > level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not fluid).
> > When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
> >
> > Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I have
> > locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older
> versions.
> >
> > Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
> >
> > Has anyone experienced the same?
> >
> > I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to check
> with
> > the community first.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Firefox - Slower movements when moving around the canvas
Posted by Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>.
Just confirmed that behavior changed between Firefox 58.x and 59.x.
I'll let our UI gurus find the root cause and will probably use Chrome in
the meantime :)
2018-03-31 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pierre Villard <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm running on master, using Firefox (59.0.2), and it seems it got slower
> to move around the canvas. In my case, I've around 10 PGs and around 50
> processors. When trying to move from one place to another at the root
> level, it's really slow and movement is intermittent/broken (not fluid).
> When accessing the same NiFi with Chrome, no issue at all.
>
> Problem is... I've also tried with a NiFi 1.5.0 and a NiFi 1.3.0 I have
> locally with various workflows, and it's the same with the older versions.
>
> Wondering if this could be related to the upgrade to Firefox 59.x.
>
> Has anyone experienced the same?
>
> I can try to downgrade to Firefox 58.x to confirm but wanted to check with
> the community first.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>