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Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
>From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to confusion for
anybody.
or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Done: Committed revision 1509066.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:29 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> wrote:
> So maybe we should simply import the configuration before the rooms ?
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/7/31 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hello Sebastian,
> >
> > Here is the full story:
> >
> > In case red5sip != enabled -> no further actions are made
> > In case red5sip == enabled
> > if URL+credentials to Asterisk are not set -> calls are not made
> >
> > The main idea to set this flag to true was:
> > The system is just installed, then backup is being imported and if
> red5sip
> > != enabled to user/room records will be added to Asterisk DB.
> >
> > Same thing with "install from backup", users and rooms are being imported
> > prior to configurations, so in case red5sip option is initially ==
> disabled
> > no records will be added to Asterisk :(
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:00 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Now I m confused. I thought it has no effect. You mentioned to enable
> > > red5sip you need to configure a URL to Asterisk.
> > >
> > > So even if you put that config to on red5sip will not make any calls.
> > >
> > > So what is the effect of settings this to true?
> > > Passwords should always be stored in md5 encrypted.
> > > And AFAIK we do that.
> > > Or are there exceptions from that?
> > >
> > > Sebastian
> > > On 31 Jul 2013 22:49, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure let's rename it.
> > > > What name would you prefer?
> > > > please take into account this flag also switch off the whole red5sip
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Maxim,
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at
> least
> > > the
> > > > > label and descr.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank
> > > > > seb
> > > > > On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Sebastian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly
> > > > created
> > > > > > users in asterisk.
> > > > > > We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to
> > > > "enable
> > > > > > red5 later"
> > > > > > Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of
> [prefix|password|suffix]
> > > > (can
> > > > > > check in the code)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing:
> if
> > > > > > connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > > > > > > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to
> > > confusion
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > anybody.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > WBR
> > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > WBR
> > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
So maybe we should simply import the configuration before the rooms ?
Sebastian
2013/7/31 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> Hello Sebastian,
>
> Here is the full story:
>
> In case red5sip != enabled -> no further actions are made
> In case red5sip == enabled
> if URL+credentials to Asterisk are not set -> calls are not made
>
> The main idea to set this flag to true was:
> The system is just installed, then backup is being imported and if red5sip
> != enabled to user/room records will be added to Asterisk DB.
>
> Same thing with "install from backup", users and rooms are being imported
> prior to configurations, so in case red5sip option is initially == disabled
> no records will be added to Asterisk :(
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:00 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Now I m confused. I thought it has no effect. You mentioned to enable
> > red5sip you need to configure a URL to Asterisk.
> >
> > So even if you put that config to on red5sip will not make any calls.
> >
> > So what is the effect of settings this to true?
> > Passwords should always be stored in md5 encrypted.
> > And AFAIK we do that.
> > Or are there exceptions from that?
> >
> > Sebastian
> > On 31 Jul 2013 22:49, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure let's rename it.
> > > What name would you prefer?
> > > please take into account this flag also switch off the whole red5sip
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Maxim,
> > > >
> > > > Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at least
> > the
> > > > label and descr.
> > > >
> > > > Thank
> > > > seb
> > > > On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Sebastian,
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly
> > > created
> > > > > users in asterisk.
> > > > > We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to
> > > "enable
> > > > > red5 later"
> > > > > Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix]
> > > (can
> > > > > check in the code)
> > > > >
> > > > > This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
> > > > > connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > > > > > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to
> > confusion
> > > > for
> > > > > > anybody.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > WBR
> > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Sebastian,
Here is the full story:
In case red5sip != enabled -> no further actions are made
In case red5sip == enabled
if URL+credentials to Asterisk are not set -> calls are not made
The main idea to set this flag to true was:
The system is just installed, then backup is being imported and if red5sip
!= enabled to user/room records will be added to Asterisk DB.
Same thing with "install from backup", users and rooms are being imported
prior to configurations, so in case red5sip option is initially == disabled
no records will be added to Asterisk :(
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:00 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now I m confused. I thought it has no effect. You mentioned to enable
> red5sip you need to configure a URL to Asterisk.
>
> So even if you put that config to on red5sip will not make any calls.
>
> So what is the effect of settings this to true?
> Passwords should always be stored in md5 encrypted.
> And AFAIK we do that.
> Or are there exceptions from that?
>
> Sebastian
> On 31 Jul 2013 22:49, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sure let's rename it.
> > What name would you prefer?
> > please take into account this flag also switch off the whole red5sip
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Maxim,
> > >
> > > Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at least
> the
> > > label and descr.
> > >
> > > Thank
> > > seb
> > > On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Sebastian,
> > > >
> > > > The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly
> > created
> > > > users in asterisk.
> > > > We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to
> > "enable
> > > > red5 later"
> > > > Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix]
> > (can
> > > > check in the code)
> > > >
> > > > This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
> > > > connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > > > > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to
> confusion
> > > for
> > > > > anybody.
> > > > >
> > > > > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > WBR
> > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Now I m confused. I thought it has no effect. You mentioned to enable
red5sip you need to configure a URL to Asterisk.
So even if you put that config to on red5sip will not make any calls.
So what is the effect of settings this to true?
Passwords should always be stored in md5 encrypted.
And AFAIK we do that.
Or are there exceptions from that?
Sebastian
On 31 Jul 2013 22:49, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure let's rename it.
> What name would you prefer?
> please take into account this flag also switch off the whole red5sip
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Maxim,
> >
> > Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at least the
> > label and descr.
> >
> > Thank
> > seb
> > On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Sebastian,
> > >
> > > The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly
> created
> > > users in asterisk.
> > > We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to
> "enable
> > > red5 later"
> > > Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix]
> (can
> > > check in the code)
> > >
> > > This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
> > > connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > > > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to confusion
> > for
> > > > anybody.
> > > >
> > > > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Sure let's rename it.
What name would you prefer?
please take into account this flag also switch off the whole red5sip
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:46 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at least the
> label and descr.
>
> Thank
> seb
> On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Sebastian,
> >
> > The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly created
> > users in asterisk.
> > We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to "enable
> > red5 later"
> > Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix] (can
> > check in the code)
> >
> > This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
> > connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to confusion
> for
> > > anybody.
> > >
> > > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Maxim,
Okay so maybe we can simple rename either the config key or at least the
label and descr.
Thank
seb
On 31 Jul 2013 22:42, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Sebastian,
>
> The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly created
> users in asterisk.
> We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to "enable
> red5 later"
> Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix] (can
> check in the code)
>
> This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
> connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> > From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to confusion for
> > anybody.
> >
> > or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Web installer sets enable red5Sip to "true" by default ?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Sebastian,
The reason it is enabled by defauld is storing passwords of newly created
users in asterisk.
We do not store plain passwords, this is why it is impossible to "enable
red5 later"
Passwords in asterist are stored as MD5 of [prefix|password|suffix] (can
check in the code)
This can be disabled by default. But AFAIKS it affects nothing: if
connection to asterisk is not configured no requests are sent.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there are reason why we enable this by default?
> From my point of view it should be false, it leads just to confusion for
> anybody.
>
> or does it actually not matter if you enable it or not ?
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax