[UX] Working with old UX wiki pages

[Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>]

Hi all,

there exists a lot of UX relevant pages in the MediaWiki. There had been 
a lot of ideas and wishes on the ooo-users@incubator.apache.org 
recently. I have pointed them to Bugzilla and to these UX pages. But 
that seems to be wrong.

I think, that a decision is needed, how to handle this stuff in future. 
I see this problems:

(1)
Currently some (all?) pages are assigned to category 'outdated', but 
that is not very obvious.

Most of this pages have the template {{user experience}} integrated. My 
suggestion is, to put a note into this template.

(2)
At OOo times there was only the MediaWiki. But now we have the MediaWiki 
and the CWiki. My suggestion is, to use the MediaWiki only for those 
things, which are not connected with core development and not connected 
with community building. With this premise, UX work should be on the 
CWiki. That Wiki is writable for all too, so it would be no constrain in 
participation.

(3)
UX had a project "Better defaults". I thing it is worth to continue. 
"Better defaults" are often small changes which might be suitable for 
development beginners to explore the source and can be used as "easy 
hack", if they find an experienced developer to guide.

Kind regards
Regina

Re: [UX] Working with old UX wiki pages

[Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>]

KG01 - See comments inline.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:34 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012/6/1 Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > there exists a lot of UX relevant pages in the MediaWiki. There had been
> a
> > lot of ideas and wishes on the ooo-users@incubator.apache.org recently.
> I
> > have pointed them to Bugzilla and to these UX pages. But that seems to be
> > wrong.
> >
>

KG01 - Agreed. There is alot of good stuff in there. We need to harvest the
relevant, and retire the dated.


> > I think, that a decision is needed, how to handle this stuff in future. I
> > see this problems:
> >
> > (1)
> > Currently some (all?) pages are assigned to category 'outdated', but
> that is
> > not very obvious.
> >
> > Most of this pages have the template {{user experience}} integrated. My
> > suggestion is, to put a note into this template.
>

KG01 - Indeed, we need a note in the old template indicating that the old
content has been archived, and that moving forward we'll use the new AOO UX
home page:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience

>
> > (2)
> > At OOo times there was only the MediaWiki. But now we have the MediaWiki
> and
> > the CWiki. My suggestion is, to use the MediaWiki only for those things,
> > which are not connected with core development and not connected with
> > community building. With this premise, UX work should be on the CWiki.
> That
> > Wiki is writable for all too, so it would be no constrain in
> participation.
>

KG 01 - I'm hearing different guidance from different people around the
project on this one.

I understood the cwiki was for project planning. Development asked me to
keep all UX-related content on the MediaWiki. This is unnecessarily
confusing.

We need to clarify this as soon as possible before we waste time populating
the mediawiki.


>
> +1. We can use MediaWiki for tutorials and documentation, and CWiki
> for planning and development.
>



KG01 - Better defaults is an example of an initiative we need to move over
to new UX activity list.

I've started to create the structure in MediaWiki to capture these items.
"Better Defaults", for example, could be listed as an activity design
exploration.

I'll continue to update the AOO UX mediawiki homepage capture this
information.


> > (3)
> > UX had a project "Better defaults". I thing it is worth to continue.
> "Better
> > defaults" are often small changes which might be suitable for development
> > beginners to explore the source and can be used as "easy hack", if they
> find
> > an experienced developer to guide.
>
> +1000!!!
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>

Re: [UX] Working with old UX wiki pages

[RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>]

2012/6/1 Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>:
> Hi all,
>
> there exists a lot of UX relevant pages in the MediaWiki. There had been a
> lot of ideas and wishes on the ooo-users@incubator.apache.org recently. I
> have pointed them to Bugzilla and to these UX pages. But that seems to be
> wrong.
>
> I think, that a decision is needed, how to handle this stuff in future. I
> see this problems:
>
> (1)
> Currently some (all?) pages are assigned to category 'outdated', but that is
> not very obvious.
>
> Most of this pages have the template {{user experience}} integrated. My
> suggestion is, to put a note into this template.
>
> (2)
> At OOo times there was only the MediaWiki. But now we have the MediaWiki and
> the CWiki. My suggestion is, to use the MediaWiki only for those things,
> which are not connected with core development and not connected with
> community building. With this premise, UX work should be on the CWiki. That
> Wiki is writable for all too, so it would be no constrain in participation.

+1. We can use MediaWiki for tutorials and documentation, and CWiki
for planning and development.


> (3)
> UX had a project "Better defaults". I thing it is worth to continue. "Better
> defaults" are often small changes which might be suitable for development
> beginners to explore the source and can be used as "easy hack", if they find
> an experienced developer to guide.

+1000!!!

Regards
Ricardo

Re: [UX] Working with old UX wiki pages

[Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>]

2012/6/1 Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>

> Hi all,
>
>
Hi


> there exists a lot of UX relevant pages in the MediaWiki. There had been a
> lot of ideas and wishes on the ooo-users@incubator.apache.org recently. I
> have pointed them to Bugzilla and to these UX pages. But that seems to be
> wrong.
>
> I think, that a decision is needed, how to handle this stuff in future. I
> see this problems:
>
> (1)
> Currently some (all?) pages are assigned to category 'outdated', but that
> is not very obvious.
>
> Most of this pages have the template {{user experience}} integrated. My
> suggestion is, to put a note into this template.
>

I've created that category in order to identify pages that need revision,
not only UX related pages. As soon as they are revised that category must
be removed from the pages. There are many new pages in the wiki.
Categorizing old unrevised pages in Category:Outdated makes it easier to
search for such pages and to have a good idea on how many they are and what
are their contents.


>
> (2)
> At OOo times there was only the MediaWiki. But now we have the MediaWiki
> and the CWiki. My suggestion is, to use the MediaWiki only for those
> things, which are not connected with core development and not connected
> with community building. With this premise, UX work should be on the CWiki.
> That Wiki is writable for all too, so it would be no constrain in
> participation.
>

I don't have an closed opinion about this issue. I am more familiar with
Mediawiki, but I can learn how to use Cwiki too. No problem from my side.


>
> (3)
> UX had a project "Better defaults". I thing it is worth to continue.
> "Better defaults" are often small changes which might be suitable for
> development beginners to explore the source and can be used as "easy hack",
> if they find an experienced developer to guide.
>

Sure!


>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>
Regards.

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