KDevelop 2.1

["R. Welz" <r_...@gmx.de>]

Hello.
how can I use svn with kDevelop 2.1? KDevelop seems to offer only CVS 
support in new projects.

Thank you for help,
Robert


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Re: KDevelop 2.1

[Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>]

"R. Welz" <r_...@gmx.de> writes:

> Hello.
> how can I use svn with kDevelop 2.1? KDevelop seems to offer only CVS
> support in new projects.

I've never even heard of kDevelop.  I assume it's some kind of IDE?

I'm guessing the best way to get Subversion features integrated into
kDevelop is to ask the kDevelop developers to do so.  Ask them to
start using the Subversion libraries and APIs.  I'm sure they have a
mailing list.  :-)


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Re: KDevelop 2.1

[Jostein Christoffer Andersen <jo...@webconnect.no>]

Robert wrote:

> Hi.
> Sorry, I don't understand:
> 
>> No, you must use the CVS version. The upcoming kdevelop (codename
>> gideon)
>> have subversion support but are using the svn library, so it will
>> probably
>> not compile with subversion support.
> 
> ??? It has subversion support but is using the svn lib, so it doesn't
> compile??
> Isn't svn and subversion the same?

You are right of course. 

The Subversion API are still changing often. The result is that applications
who are using the subversion libraries (and header files) needs rewrite
nearly every time a new Subversion version are coming up.

>> You might have a chance if you are using debian (kdevelop's svnpart
>> developer are using debian and he develop it against recent Subversion
>> snapshots (debian subversion)).
> 
> I guess Debian is another linux distribution. So there are no chanches
> to get kdevelop running under SuSE?

It's just easier to do it under Debian. KDE's svnpart developer tends to do
the svn support based upon the current unstable Debian Subversion package
rather than using the latest Subversion version.

I'm using Linux From Scratch and it have happened one or two times this year
that Gideon compiles with Subversion support for me.

I think you must use Subversion 0.17 if you want to compile gideon as it is
now with Subversion Support.

> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience, but it is important to me to find a good
> IDE for large projects.
>
> I just thought of contributing to kDevelop myself to implement svn
> support, but that would be my first larger project on linux although I
> am quite experienced on other platforms.

Then it will probably be very easy for you to fix it. Just head to
www.kdevelop.org, download the CVS and start hacking. The kdevelop will be
very happy to apply a patch from you.

I thing the svnpart man on kdevelop is Mickael Marchand <ma...@kde.org>
He will probably update the code at once if you tells him that the API has
changed again.

> Do you have suggestions for a good IDE for C++ with all the templates I
> would need for GNU development AND possible svn support?

Just check out the kdevelop CVS and compile it. I think you will just love
it.

Jostein



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Re: KDevelop 2.1

[Robert <ro...@gmx.de>]

Hi.
Sorry, I don't understand:

> No, you must use the CVS version. The upcoming kdevelop (codename 
> gideon)
> have subversion support but are using the svn library, so it will 
> probably
> not compile with subversion support.

??? It has subversion support but is using the svn lib, so it doesn't 
compile??
Isn't svn and subversion the same?



> You might have a chance if you are using debian (kdevelop's svnpart
> developer are using debian and he develop it against recent Subversion
> snapshots (debian subversion)).

I guess Debian is another linux distribution. So there are no chanches 
to get kdevelop running under SuSE?

Sorry for the inconvenience, but it is important to me to find a good 
IDE for large projects.

I just thought of contributing to kDevelop myself to implement svn 
support, but that would be my first larger project on linux although I 
am quite experienced on other platforms.

The problem with kDevelop without version control is its weired 
behaviour when making backups of project and files manually and 
locally. I managed to destroy my (little) test-project by just moving 
around files and folders from my project directory. I had to recreate 
my project. Additionally it was not really possible to tidy up all the 
makefiles automagically.  Assume I have some 100 of files and some 
douzends of nested directorys. Not imagineable how complicated a simple 
manual backup would be.

Eclipse and the cdt-plugin: (there was a thread here about subclipse, 
the svn plugin for it): On my little C++ testfile, the debugger crashes 
regularly when pressing the wrong knob. Fe.: pressing "Stop debug" does 
this regularly (not always but very often). (I don't like the GUI, 
too). Although backing up projects by copying their folders simply 
works.

CodeWarrior 6: I could develop a svn pluging for CW 6, but CW 6 is only 
good for Command line tools and Java. The C(++) debugger is fine (ddd), 
so is the makefile creation, but no project templates (called 
stationaries) for KDE, Qt, etc... like in KDevelop.
KDevelop even creates docfiles for you.

Do you have suggestions for a good IDE for C++ with all the templates I 
would need for GNU development AND possible svn support?

I would really like to have source file management, I wouldn't even 
need debugger and editor. But makefiles generation are a must have (at 
the moment) although I could learn to write them my own. Having version 
control over svn would be of great help, too.

Any ideas and suggestions are greatly welcome

PS: What do you think about the SlickEDIT IDE? It cost about 270 US$. 
Is it worth? Can I have svn support with that? I will try to download 
the demo and test it like CodeWarrior6 and kDevelop. If someone is 
interested on the result, drop me a line.

Greetings and have a nice weekend!

Robert


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Re: KDevelop 2.1

[Jostein Christoffer Andersen <jo...@webconnect.no>]

R. Welz wrote:

> Hello.
> how can I use svn with kDevelop 2.1? KDevelop seems to offer only CVS
> support in new projects.

No, you must use the CVS version. The upcoming kdevelop (codename gideon)
have subversion support but are using the svn library, so it will probably
not compile with subversion support.

You might have a chance if you are using debian (kdevelop's svnpart
developer are using debian and he develop it against recent Subversion
snapshots (debian subversion)).

The kdevelop svnpart's last change age in cvs is only 5 days so I think I
will try to compile it again myself.

Go to:
  http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=branches_compiling.html for
more info.

Good luck.

Jostein





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