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Re: Working Terracotta Component - Clustered Queues in Camel

Hi,

Can you tell me if the integration of Terracotta with Camel has been finally
integrated into the Camel project ? If this is the case, where this code is
located (in the source directory of Camel-core / Camel-component) ?

Regards

Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect
Xpectis - www.xpectis.com



Taylor Gautier wrote:
> 
> 
> James.Strachan wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/03/2008, Taylor Gautier <tg...@terracottatech.com> wrote:
>>>  James.Strachan wrote:
>>>
>>> Will do.  I'll go back and see if I can't commit the code - it's pretty
>>>  small really.  It seems like it would be better for this component to
>>> be a
>>>  part of the camel package, rather than a separate download.
>> 
>> Sure - so long as the license is fine (which at first look being MPL
>> based looks fine) we can host it at Apache if you like; or it could be
>> hosted at terracotta.org if you prefer; your call really.
>> 
> 
> Oh, I was thinking to donate it with an Apache license.  Just have to get
> the OK on that, worst case we have it on TC site with TC license, but it
> seems better to be in Camel proper.
> 
> 
> James.Strachan wrote:
>> 
>>>  On a side note, does this usage make sense?
>> 
>> Sure
>> 
>>> I don't know Camel or its use
>>>  cases well enough to know....for example, if you have an application
>>> with a
>>>  JMS queue connecting one or more JVMs, how would that application be
>>>  configured?
>> 
>> So Camel works on endpoints; an endpoint being a specific queue or
>> topic or directory or whatever. The JMS endpoints are typically
>> created by a JmsComponent which has the various JMS configuration such
>> as ConnectionFactory or TransactionManager etc. We tend to use Spring
>> to configure that kinda stuff; though you can also configure endpoints
>> on the URI as well.
>> http://activemq.apache.org/camel/jms.html
>> 
>> 
> 
> Ok, sounds like I did the right thing.
> 
> 
> James.Strachan wrote:
>> 
>>>  I think I have modeled what I have done roughly on this usage, but I'm
>>> not
>>>  an expert here. I'd love to see someone who has more experience give
>>> this a
>>>  try in a more real-world setting - I would suspect that it might be
>>> possible
>>>  for any app that has a JMS queue configured as endpoints between two
>>> JVMs
>>>  this would work pretty much as a drop in replacement, but again, not
>>> really
>>>  sure here.
>> 
>> Sure - wanna pop the code somewhere and we can take a noodle?
>> 
> 
> It's already there - in my original message I posted a working sample that
> should take about 1 minute to run - it all builds and compiles and
> downloads via maven, so the checkout is next to nothing.
> 
> 

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Re: Working Terracotta Component - Clustered Queues in Camel

Posted by cmoulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
Thx. I will pick up the code from your svn server and test it.

One question : 
According to this architecture (Camel + Terracotta), the
clustering/loadbalacing functionality is not provided by a ESB like
ServiceMix or Mule or using a cluster of JMS queues but by Terracotta. So,
conceptually speaking, Terracotta could play the role of an ESB except that
functionalities used to create/plug endpoints, services, ... are not part of
Terracotta package.

So, what do you think about the idea to embed Terracotta into a ESB product
(Mule, ServiceMix, ...) in order to provide such functionalities by default
? Terracotta could be part of the kernel engine of the ESB ?

Regards,

Charles 


Taylor Gautier wrote:
> 
> I haven't yet integrated the camel code into Camel proper.  It currently
> lives on the Terracotta Forge site.
> 
> You can check it out using:
> 
> svn co http://svn.terracotta.org/svn/forge/projects/labs/tim-camel
> 
> Read the README.txt to run the sample.
> 
> 
> cmoulliard wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Can you tell me if the integration of Terracotta with Camel has been
>> finally integrated into the Camel project ? If this is the case, where
>> this code is located (in the source directory of Camel-core /
>> Camel-component) ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Charles Moulliard
>> Senior Enterprise Architect
>> Xpectis - www.xpectis.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Taylor Gautier wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/03/2008, Taylor Gautier <tg...@terracottatech.com> wrote:
>>>>>  James.Strachan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Will do.  I'll go back and see if I can't commit the code - it's
>>>>> pretty
>>>>>  small really.  It seems like it would be better for this component to
>>>>> be a
>>>>>  part of the camel package, rather than a separate download.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure - so long as the license is fine (which at first look being MPL
>>>> based looks fine) we can host it at Apache if you like; or it could be
>>>> hosted at terracotta.org if you prefer; your call really.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Oh, I was thinking to donate it with an Apache license.  Just have to
>>> get the OK on that, worst case we have it on TC site with TC license,
>>> but it seems better to be in Camel proper.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  On a side note, does this usage make sense?
>>>> 
>>>> Sure
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know Camel or its use
>>>>>  cases well enough to know....for example, if you have an application
>>>>> with a
>>>>>  JMS queue connecting one or more JVMs, how would that application be
>>>>>  configured?
>>>> 
>>>> So Camel works on endpoints; an endpoint being a specific queue or
>>>> topic or directory or whatever. The JMS endpoints are typically
>>>> created by a JmsComponent which has the various JMS configuration such
>>>> as ConnectionFactory or TransactionManager etc. We tend to use Spring
>>>> to configure that kinda stuff; though you can also configure endpoints
>>>> on the URI as well.
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/camel/jms.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, sounds like I did the right thing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>  I think I have modeled what I have done roughly on this usage, but
>>>>> I'm not
>>>>>  an expert here. I'd love to see someone who has more experience give
>>>>> this a
>>>>>  try in a more real-world setting - I would suspect that it might be
>>>>> possible
>>>>>  for any app that has a JMS queue configured as endpoints between two
>>>>> JVMs
>>>>>  this would work pretty much as a drop in replacement, but again, not
>>>>> really
>>>>>  sure here.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure - wanna pop the code somewhere and we can take a noodle?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's already there - in my original message I posted a working sample
>>> that should take about 1 minute to run - it all builds and compiles and
>>> downloads via maven, so the checkout is next to nothing.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Working Terracotta Component - Clustered Queues in Camel

Posted by Taylor Gautier <tg...@terracottatech.com>.
I haven't yet integrated the camel code into Camel proper.  It currently
lives on the Terracotta Forge site.

You can check it out using:

svn co http://svn.terracotta.org/svn/forge/projects/labs/tim-camel

Read the README.txt to run the sample.


cmoulliard wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can you tell me if the integration of Terracotta with Camel has been
> finally integrated into the Camel project ? If this is the case, where
> this code is located (in the source directory of Camel-core /
> Camel-component) ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Charles Moulliard
> Senior Enterprise Architect
> Xpectis - www.xpectis.com
> 
> 
> 
> Taylor Gautier wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 11/03/2008, Taylor Gautier <tg...@terracottatech.com> wrote:
>>>>  James.Strachan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will do.  I'll go back and see if I can't commit the code - it's pretty
>>>>  small really.  It seems like it would be better for this component to
>>>> be a
>>>>  part of the camel package, rather than a separate download.
>>> 
>>> Sure - so long as the license is fine (which at first look being MPL
>>> based looks fine) we can host it at Apache if you like; or it could be
>>> hosted at terracotta.org if you prefer; your call really.
>>> 
>> 
>> Oh, I was thinking to donate it with an Apache license.  Just have to get
>> the OK on that, worst case we have it on TC site with TC license, but it
>> seems better to be in Camel proper.
>> 
>> 
>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  On a side note, does this usage make sense?
>>> 
>>> Sure
>>> 
>>>> I don't know Camel or its use
>>>>  cases well enough to know....for example, if you have an application
>>>> with a
>>>>  JMS queue connecting one or more JVMs, how would that application be
>>>>  configured?
>>> 
>>> So Camel works on endpoints; an endpoint being a specific queue or
>>> topic or directory or whatever. The JMS endpoints are typically
>>> created by a JmsComponent which has the various JMS configuration such
>>> as ConnectionFactory or TransactionManager etc. We tend to use Spring
>>> to configure that kinda stuff; though you can also configure endpoints
>>> on the URI as well.
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/camel/jms.html
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok, sounds like I did the right thing.
>> 
>> 
>> James.Strachan wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  I think I have modeled what I have done roughly on this usage, but I'm
>>>> not
>>>>  an expert here. I'd love to see someone who has more experience give
>>>> this a
>>>>  try in a more real-world setting - I would suspect that it might be
>>>> possible
>>>>  for any app that has a JMS queue configured as endpoints between two
>>>> JVMs
>>>>  this would work pretty much as a drop in replacement, but again, not
>>>> really
>>>>  sure here.
>>> 
>>> Sure - wanna pop the code somewhere and we can take a noodle?
>>> 
>> 
>> It's already there - in my original message I posted a working sample
>> that should take about 1 minute to run - it all builds and compiles and
>> downloads via maven, so the checkout is next to nothing.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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