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Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Paul Hammant <Pa...@yahoo.com> on 2001/10/21 17:00:43 UTC

CBE - new Pheonix app

Hi folks,

I have helped Thomas Neumann, the author of CBE (*Code Building 
Environment* ) at sourceforge to migrate his app to have Phoenix 
compatability.  It is a version control system and platform independant 
make environment.  Now none of us Java-heads need the latter as we're 
over the moon with Ant, but the former has some potential.  The make env 
is for non Java languages too, so has benefits for those "legacy" langauges.

The code is booked into CVS at the moment and not visible from the 
download page (SourceForge is sooo complicated), but it marks the first 
OSS application outside Apache that is maintaining it's own Pheonix 
compatability.  That is it has phoenix-client.jar and logkit in it's own 
CVS.  This, for me, was the prototype for the Phoenix Developer Kit.  As 
it happens CBE still works in standalone mode,  so it's an adaptation 
job mostly.

There is still a little work to do make it bullet proof, so watch the 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cbe site for changes over the next week 
or so and please welcome Thomas to the Avalon Developer community.

Regards,

- Paul H



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Re: CBE - new Pheonix app

Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:36, Paul Hammant wrote:
> Peter,
>
> >ooer - I need a new version control system. Stuck with damn Visual Source
> >Safe - one of the most poorly designed VC products I have ever worked with
> > ! Blech and I used to think CVS sucked ;) Though VSS does have a nice GUI
> > ;)
>
> Don't forget Perforce Peter - it's free to two user scenarios.

still trying to get them to change to that one ;)

> I'm sure I could have a go.  I am not too familiar with the codebase.
>  Howabout getting yourself added to the sourceforge ccomitters for that
> project.  Actually, I have to fix the sar construction as you've
> migrated to SAR-INF recently.
>
> Incidentally, Would a diff/patch pair for Ant be cool?

very +1 ;)

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Cheers,

Pete

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Re: CBE - new Pheonix app

Posted by Paul Hammant <Pa...@yahoo.com>.
Peter,

>ooer - I need a new version control system. Stuck with damn Visual Source 
>Safe - one of the most poorly designed VC products I have ever worked with ! 
>Blech and I used to think CVS sucked ;) Though VSS does have a nice GUI ;)
>
Don't forget Perforce Peter - it's free to two user scenarios.

>So how production ready is this system - the page lists it as alpha?
>
It needs work, unfortunately.

>>The code is booked into CVS at the moment and not visible from the
>>download page (SourceForge is sooo complicated), but it marks the first
>>OSS application outside Apache that is maintaining it's own Pheonix
>>compatability.  That is it has phoenix-client.jar and logkit in it's own
>>CVS.  This, for me, was the prototype for the Phoenix Developer Kit.  As
>>it happens CBE still works in standalone mode,  so it's an adaptation
>>job mostly.
>>
>
>kool.
>
>>There is still a little work to do make it bullet proof, so watch the
>>http://sourceforge.net/projects/cbe site for changes over the next week
>>or so and please welcome Thomas to the Avalon Developer community.
>>
>
>welcome !
>
>I have a request ;) Is there any chance of making the code for creating, 
>merging and applying patches and so forth available separat ely - perhaps as 
>a cbe-tools.jar ? The reason is that I wanted this style functionality ages 
>ago when I was adding something to ant but didn't see anything about in 
>OSS/Free software land.
>
I'm sure I could have a go.  I am not too familiar with the codebase. 
 Howabout getting yourself added to the sourceforge ccomitters for that 
project.  Actually, I have to fix the sar construction as you've 
migrated to SAR-INF recently.

Incidentally, Would a diff/patch pair for Ant be cool? 

Regards,

- Paul H


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Re: CBE - new Pheonix app

Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 17:54, Ulrich Mayring wrote:
> Peter Donald wrote:
> > ooer - I need a new version control system. Stuck with damn Visual Source
> > Safe - one of the most poorly designed VC products I have ever worked
> > with ! Blech and I used to think CVS sucked ;) Though VSS does have a
> > nice GUI ;)
>
> If you want CVS with a GUI, accessible from within an IDE, look at
> Netbeans.

my pet hate about CVS is basically that it doesn't version meta-data and that 
you can't "delete" directorys from current head without setting a "-P" 
(prune) option ;)

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Cheers,

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Re: CBE - new Pheonix app

Posted by Ulrich Mayring <ul...@denic.de>.
Peter Donald wrote:
> 
> ooer - I need a new version control system. Stuck with damn Visual Source
> Safe - one of the most poorly designed VC products I have ever worked with !
> Blech and I used to think CVS sucked ;) Though VSS does have a nice GUI ;)

If you want CVS with a GUI, accessible from within an IDE, look at
Netbeans.

Ulrich

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Re: CBE - new Pheonix app

Posted by Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 01:00, Paul Hammant wrote:
> I have helped Thomas Neumann, the author of CBE (*Code Building
> Environment* ) at sourceforge to migrate his app to have Phoenix
> compatability.  It is a version control system and platform independant
> make environment.  Now none of us Java-heads need the latter as we're
> over the moon with Ant, but the former has some potential.  The make env
> is for non Java languages too, so has benefits for those "legacy"
> langauges.

ooer - I need a new version control system. Stuck with damn Visual Source 
Safe - one of the most poorly designed VC products I have ever worked with ! 
Blech and I used to think CVS sucked ;) Though VSS does have a nice GUI ;)

So how production ready is this system - the page lists it as alpha?

> The code is booked into CVS at the moment and not visible from the
> download page (SourceForge is sooo complicated), but it marks the first
> OSS application outside Apache that is maintaining it's own Pheonix
> compatability.  That is it has phoenix-client.jar and logkit in it's own
> CVS.  This, for me, was the prototype for the Phoenix Developer Kit.  As
> it happens CBE still works in standalone mode,  so it's an adaptation
> job mostly.

kool.

> There is still a little work to do make it bullet proof, so watch the
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/cbe site for changes over the next week
> or so and please welcome Thomas to the Avalon Developer community.

welcome !

I have a request ;) Is there any chance of making the code for creating, 
merging and applying patches and so forth available separat ely - perhaps as 
a cbe-tools.jar ? The reason is that I wanted this style functionality ages 
ago when I was adding something to ant but didn't see anything about in 
OSS/Free software land.

-- 
Cheers,

Pete

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