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Posted to users@servicemix.apache.org by Charles Souillard <ch...@ext.bull.net> on 2006/01/03 09:50:13 UTC
ServiceMix use
Hi everybody,
I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
* improve SM
* develop easier new service engine
* have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
* ...
Are you using SM as a single user ?
Are you using SM in production ?
Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
Are you using SM in production ?
Feel free to give any comment !
Thanks for your answers !
Charles
Re: ServiceMix use
Posted by Charles Souillard <ch...@ext.bull.net>.
Guillaume,
I have already visited these pages and downloaded the pdf doc but this
is an old one published before the final release of JBI.
Moreover it is based on some classes available in sun jar files...
Although it gives a general idea of how developping a service engine
Thanks you anyway
Regards,
Charles
Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> There are also documentation on the sun site.
> http://java.sun.com/integration/1.0/docs/sdk/
> http://java.sun.com/integration/reference/techart/DevelopingAServiceEngineComponent-1-2.pdf
>
>
> Guillaume Nodet
>
> Charles Souillard wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roland !
>>
>> Your answers are very interesting !
>> I think we have the same couple of goals/interests in serivceMix and
>> the same constraints...
>>
>> Like you I am starting with SM and I want to develop my own Service
>> Engine to integrate my app.
>> In the future, I want to use SM in a productive environment.
>> For the moment, I think JBI is a growing standard. My problem
>> concerns finding documentation about writing a JBI component...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Charles
>>
>> Roland Oertig wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Charles
>>>
>>> I try to answer your questions and give you some of my views and
>>> motivations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>>>
>>> Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>>>
>>> Since years, really since years, as an old LISP developer, I got an
>>> architecture like SM in my vision documents (who not!) and have
>>> targeted
>>> that all Java developments, stone by stone, are aligned to finally
>>> build a
>>> bridge between legacy systems, as part of a message based middleware. I
>>> could already realize it on a LISP platform, but I need such a
>>> solution in a
>>> development environment which has a larger community behind it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I discovered SM and Mule in the open source community.
>>>
>>> Both are great approaches and both have their values and help me in the
>>> sense that I do not have to re-invent the wheels; they both go
>>> (fortunately)
>>> in the exact direction I want to go.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using SM as a single user ?
>>>
>>> I'm working for more than 20 years, first as employee then as
>>> freelancer,
>>> for airlines worldwide. I have successfully bridged many IBM 390 hosts,
>>> AS400, HP's, etc. with
>>>
>>> a middleware developed specially to support mission critical
>>> applications in
>>> the airline environment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>>>
>>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>>
>>> Yes, the wish is to use SM in a productive environment to support
>>> mission
>>> critical solutions. Therefore it has to scale well and be very
>>> stable, etc.,
>>> etc. you know it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The way to get there is still far enough. As you know, making a
>>> decision to
>>> bring an open source project into a productive environement and rely
>>> on it,
>>> means it has to be very well know and understoden by the customers
>>> various
>>> staffs.
>>>
>>> Therefore step one is to get the source and to be able to compile it
>>> without
>>> any "head wind" blowing to your face!
>>>
>>> Then we will be able to go forward and will see. What I shall
>>> develop as
>>> first, unless someone has it already, is an EDIFACT/XML/EDIFACT
>>> handler,
>>> respective service engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this is the kind of info you're looking at, and that I could
>>> give you
>>> some backround about the motivation and goals.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Roland
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net]
>>> Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 09:50
>>> To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
>>> Subject: ServiceMix use
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>>>
>>> Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>>>
>>> By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
>>>
>>> * improve SM
>>>
>>> * develop easier new service engine
>>>
>>> * have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
>>>
>>> * ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using SM as a single user ?
>>>
>>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>>
>>> Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>>>
>>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Feel free to give any comment !
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answers !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: ServiceMix use
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gu...@worldonline.fr>.
There are also documentation on the sun site.
http://java.sun.com/integration/1.0/docs/sdk/
http://java.sun.com/integration/reference/techart/DevelopingAServiceEngineComponent-1-2.pdf
Guillaume Nodet
Charles Souillard wrote:
> Thanks Roland !
>
> Your answers are very interesting !
> I think we have the same couple of goals/interests in serivceMix and
> the same constraints...
>
> Like you I am starting with SM and I want to develop my own Service
> Engine to integrate my app.
> In the future, I want to use SM in a productive environment.
> For the moment, I think JBI is a growing standard. My problem concerns
> finding documentation about writing a JBI component...
>
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
> Roland Oertig wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles
>>
>> I try to answer your questions and give you some of my views and
>> motivations.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>>
>> Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>>
>> Since years, really since years, as an old LISP developer, I got an
>> architecture like SM in my vision documents (who not!) and have targeted
>> that all Java developments, stone by stone, are aligned to finally
>> build a
>> bridge between legacy systems, as part of a message based middleware. I
>> could already realize it on a LISP platform, but I need such a
>> solution in a
>> development environment which has a larger community behind it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I discovered SM and Mule in the open source community.
>>
>> Both are great approaches and both have their values and help me in the
>> sense that I do not have to re-invent the wheels; they both go
>> (fortunately)
>> in the exact direction I want to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you using SM as a single user ?
>>
>> I'm working for more than 20 years, first as employee then as
>> freelancer,
>> for airlines worldwide. I have successfully bridged many IBM 390 hosts,
>> AS400, HP's, etc. with
>>
>> a middleware developed specially to support mission critical
>> applications in
>> the airline environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>>
>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>
>> Yes, the wish is to use SM in a productive environment to support
>> mission
>> critical solutions. Therefore it has to scale well and be very
>> stable, etc.,
>> etc. you know it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The way to get there is still far enough. As you know, making a
>> decision to
>> bring an open source project into a productive environement and rely
>> on it,
>> means it has to be very well know and understoden by the customers
>> various
>> staffs.
>>
>> Therefore step one is to get the source and to be able to compile it
>> without
>> any "head wind" blowing to your face!
>>
>> Then we will be able to go forward and will see. What I shall develop as
>> first, unless someone has it already, is an EDIFACT/XML/EDIFACT handler,
>> respective service engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this is the kind of info you're looking at, and that I could
>> give you
>> some backround about the motivation and goals.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Roland
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net] Sent:
>> Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 09:50
>> To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
>> Subject: ServiceMix use
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>>
>> Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>>
>> By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
>>
>> * improve SM
>>
>> * develop easier new service engine
>>
>> * have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
>>
>> * ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you using SM as a single user ?
>>
>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>
>> Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>>
>> Are you using SM in production ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to give any comment !
>>
>> Thanks for your answers !
>>
>>
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
RE: ServiceMix use
Posted by Roland Oertig <ro...@dplanet.ch>.
Charles,
by the way I was at the JavaPolis in Antwerpen 12-16. December and there
JSR208 or JBI was a hot topic/issue to all of the companys making some
presentation in the university, session, Quickies, or BOF's.
(ORACLE, BEA, SUN, SONIC, JBoss, and others)
Within the next 2-3 month I expect a lot of papers coming out from that
event.
I suggest we keep each other informed over this mail channel!
Cheers
Roland
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net]
Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 11:27
To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: Re: ServiceMix use
Thanks Roland !
Your answers are very interesting !
I think we have the same couple of goals/interests in serivceMix and the
same constraints...
Like you I am starting with SM and I want to develop my own Service
Engine to integrate my app.
In the future, I want to use SM in a productive environment.
For the moment, I think JBI is a growing standard. My problem concerns
finding documentation about writing a JBI component...
Thanks,
Charles
Roland Oertig wrote:
>
>
>Hi Charles
>
>I try to answer your questions and give you some of my views and
>motivations.
>
>
>
>I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>
>Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>
>Since years, really since years, as an old LISP developer, I got an
>architecture like SM in my vision documents (who not!) and have targeted
>that all Java developments, stone by stone, are aligned to finally build a
>bridge between legacy systems, as part of a message based middleware. I
>could already realize it on a LISP platform, but I need such a solution in
a
>development environment which has a larger community behind it.
>
>
>
>I discovered SM and Mule in the open source community.
>
>Both are great approaches and both have their values and help me in the
>sense that I do not have to re-invent the wheels; they both go
(fortunately)
>in the exact direction I want to go.
>
>
>
>Are you using SM as a single user ?
>
>I'm working for more than 20 years, first as employee then as freelancer,
>for airlines worldwide. I have successfully bridged many IBM 390 hosts,
>AS400, HP's, etc. with
>
>a middleware developed specially to support mission critical applications
in
>the airline environment.
>
>
>
>Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>Yes, the wish is to use SM in a productive environment to support mission
>critical solutions. Therefore it has to scale well and be very stable,
etc.,
>etc. you know it.
>
>
>
>The way to get there is still far enough. As you know, making a decision to
>bring an open source project into a productive environement and rely on it,
>means it has to be very well know and understoden by the customers various
>staffs.
>
>Therefore step one is to get the source and to be able to compile it
without
>any "head wind" blowing to your face!
>
>Then we will be able to go forward and will see. What I shall develop as
>first, unless someone has it already, is an EDIFACT/XML/EDIFACT handler,
>respective service engine.
>
>
>
>Hope this is the kind of info you're looking at, and that I could give you
>some backround about the motivation and goals.
>
>Have a great day!
>
>Cheers
>
>Roland
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net]
>Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 09:50
>To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
>Subject: ServiceMix use
>
>
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>
>
>I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>
>Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>
>By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
>
>* improve SM
>
>* develop easier new service engine
>
>* have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
>
>* ...
>
>
>
>Are you using SM as a single user ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>
>
>Feel free to give any comment !
>
>Thanks for your answers !
>
>
>
>Charles
>
>
>
>
Re: ServiceMix use
Posted by Charles Souillard <ch...@ext.bull.net>.
Thanks Roland !
Your answers are very interesting !
I think we have the same couple of goals/interests in serivceMix and the
same constraints...
Like you I am starting with SM and I want to develop my own Service
Engine to integrate my app.
In the future, I want to use SM in a productive environment.
For the moment, I think JBI is a growing standard. My problem concerns
finding documentation about writing a JBI component...
Thanks,
Charles
Roland Oertig wrote:
>
>
>Hi Charles
>
>I try to answer your questions and give you some of my views and
>motivations.
>
>
>
>I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>
>Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>
>Since years, really since years, as an old LISP developer, I got an
>architecture like SM in my vision documents (who not!) and have targeted
>that all Java developments, stone by stone, are aligned to finally build a
>bridge between legacy systems, as part of a message based middleware. I
>could already realize it on a LISP platform, but I need such a solution in a
>development environment which has a larger community behind it.
>
>
>
>I discovered SM and Mule in the open source community.
>
>Both are great approaches and both have their values and help me in the
>sense that I do not have to re-invent the wheels; they both go (fortunately)
>in the exact direction I want to go.
>
>
>
>Are you using SM as a single user ?
>
>I'm working for more than 20 years, first as employee then as freelancer,
>for airlines worldwide. I have successfully bridged many IBM 390 hosts,
>AS400, HP's, etc. with
>
>a middleware developed specially to support mission critical applications in
>the airline environment.
>
>
>
>Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>Yes, the wish is to use SM in a productive environment to support mission
>critical solutions. Therefore it has to scale well and be very stable, etc.,
>etc. you know it.
>
>
>
>The way to get there is still far enough. As you know, making a decision to
>bring an open source project into a productive environement and rely on it,
>means it has to be very well know and understoden by the customers various
>staffs.
>
>Therefore step one is to get the source and to be able to compile it without
>any "head wind" blowing to your face!
>
>Then we will be able to go forward and will see. What I shall develop as
>first, unless someone has it already, is an EDIFACT/XML/EDIFACT handler,
>respective service engine.
>
>
>
>Hope this is the kind of info you're looking at, and that I could give you
>some backround about the motivation and goals.
>
>Have a great day!
>
>Cheers
>
>Roland
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net]
>Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 09:50
>To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
>Subject: ServiceMix use
>
>
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>
>
>I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
>
>Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
>
>By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
>
>* improve SM
>
>* develop easier new service engine
>
>* have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
>
>* ...
>
>
>
>Are you using SM as a single user ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
>
>Are you using SM in production ?
>
>
>
>Feel free to give any comment !
>
>Thanks for your answers !
>
>
>
>Charles
>
>
>
>
RE: ServiceMix use
Posted by Roland Oertig <ro...@dplanet.ch>.
Hi Charles
I try to answer your questions and give you some of my views and
motivations.
I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
Since years, really since years, as an old LISP developer, I got an
architecture like SM in my vision documents (who not!) and have targeted
that all Java developments, stone by stone, are aligned to finally build a
bridge between legacy systems, as part of a message based middleware. I
could already realize it on a LISP platform, but I need such a solution in a
development environment which has a larger community behind it.
I discovered SM and Mule in the open source community.
Both are great approaches and both have their values and help me in the
sense that I do not have to re-invent the wheels; they both go (fortunately)
in the exact direction I want to go.
Are you using SM as a single user ?
I'm working for more than 20 years, first as employee then as freelancer,
for airlines worldwide. I have successfully bridged many IBM 390 hosts,
AS400, HP's, etc. with
a middleware developed specially to support mission critical applications in
the airline environment.
Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
Are you using SM in production ?
Yes, the wish is to use SM in a productive environment to support mission
critical solutions. Therefore it has to scale well and be very stable, etc.,
etc. you know it.
The way to get there is still far enough. As you know, making a decision to
bring an open source project into a productive environement and rely on it,
means it has to be very well know and understoden by the customers various
staffs.
Therefore step one is to get the source and to be able to compile it without
any "head wind" blowing to your face!
Then we will be able to go forward and will see. What I shall develop as
first, unless someone has it already, is an EDIFACT/XML/EDIFACT handler,
respective service engine.
Hope this is the kind of info you're looking at, and that I could give you
some backround about the motivation and goals.
Have a great day!
Cheers
Roland
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Souillard [mailto:charles.souillard@ext.bull.net]
Sent: Dienstag, 3. Januar 2006 09:50
To: servicemix-users@geronimo.apache.org
Subject: ServiceMix use
Hi everybody,
I am interested in knowing how is using ServiceMix and how...
Perhaps some of you could give me its use...
By exchanging our experiences, perhaps we can go ahead together to :
* improve SM
* develop easier new service engine
* have a general knowledge of SM functionnalities/capacities
* ...
Are you using SM as a single user ?
Are you using SM in production ?
Are you using SM in a multi thread environment ?
Are you using SM in production ?
Feel free to give any comment !
Thanks for your answers !
Charles