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Posted to dev@cayenne.apache.org by "Adrian A." <a....@googlemail.com> on 2013/12/01 08:32:12 UTC
Re: CayenneModeler on OSX / java 7
Hi,
> ... most of the work happened outside Cayenne, going into japp-maven-plugin [1], which has become again a modern cross-platform tool to assemble Java desktop apps.
Any plans to support the various Unix distributions (so not just an
executable JAR)? :
http://mojo.codehaus.org/unix/
The usefulness is of course limited, but the project's visibility
would be increased since it could be submitted to those distributions
too.
Adrian.
Re: Cayenne[Modeler] on Linux
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
http://superuser.com/questions/68089/how-can-i-add-menu-items-to-the-gnome-applications-menu-from-the-command-line
https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
And relative paths are not supported (security concern?)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3811032/using-relative-paths-for-gnome-launcher
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently, ~/.local/share/applications is probably the better
> location to use for this.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As a linux Cayenne user (and really, as a user on any platform), I
>> don't see the point of installing Cayenne as an RPM or with any kind
>> of installer. Different projects require different versions of
>> Cayenne, and I wouldn't want an automatic upgrade changing the version
>> on me.
>>
>> As for a desktop app, I think all that you have to do is create a
>> CayenneModeller.desktop file and copy it to the Desktop folder. This
>> is under OpenSUSE Mate (previously Gnome) but I think it also works
>> for KDE and other window managers.
>>
>> Here's an example of an entry I created for Eclipse:
>>
>>
>> mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat eclipse.desktop
>> [Desktop Entry]
>> Version=1.0
>> Encoding=UTF-8
>> Name=Eclipse
>> X-SuSE-translate=true
>> Categories=Development;IDE;
>> Exec=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse.sh -vm /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java
>> GenericName=Eclipse IDE
>> X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
>> MimeType=application/x-designer;
>> Icon=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse128.png
>> Type=Application
>> Comment[en_US]=see eclipse.ini for command-line args
>> GenericName[en_US]=Eclipse IDE
>>
>> Here's one I just threw together for Cayenne Modeler. I don't
>> pretend to be an expert on what all of the parameters mean, so some of
>> them may be wrong.
>>
>> mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat CayenneModeler.desktop
>> [Desktop Entry]
>> Version=1.0
>> Encoding=UTF-8
>> Name=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
>> X-SuSE-translate=true
>> Categories=Development;Programming
>> Exec=/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java -jar
>> /home/mkienenb/java/cayenne-3.1B2/bin/CayenneModeler.jar
>> GenericName=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
>> X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
>> MimeType=application/x-designer;
>> Icon=/home/mkienenb/workspaces/cayenne-checkout/STABLE-3.1/modeler/cayenne-modeler/src/main/resources/org/apache/cayenne/modeler/images/CayenneModeler.jpg
>> Type=Application
>> Comment[en_US]=
>> GenericName[en_US]=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
>>
>> However, when I tried to use $JAVA_HOME/bin/java, that failed, so you
>> probably cannot have a path based on an environment variable, which
>> means you would need to create it with a shell script rather than just
>> drag it onto your desktop.
>>
>> If you copy it into /usr/share/applications, it shows up in the menus
>> on my system, with Categories controlling which menus.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>>> So now we are talking about installer, i.e. something a level up from just a desktop app packager. I wonder if having an .rpm and friends will do more harm than good, with blanket system updates upgrading Cayenne to a version not compatible with the user apps (Cayenne is not a system component after all, it is a dev library).
>>>
>>> I wish there was something on Linux similar to OS X app bundle that would allow people to drag a single folder from tar.gz to Desktop and get a launcher with a Cayenne icon, not just a jar. I haven’t followed Linux desktop development lately. Maybe there is such solution?
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Adrian A. <a....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> ... most of the work happened outside Cayenne, going into japp-maven-plugin [1], which has become again a modern cross-platform tool to assemble Java desktop apps.
>>>>
>>>> Any plans to support the various Unix distributions (so not just an
>>>> executable JAR)? :
>>>> http://mojo.codehaus.org/unix/
>>>>
>>>> The usefulness is of course limited, but the project's visibility
>>>> would be increased since it could be submitted to those distributions
>>>> too.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian.
Re: Cayenne[Modeler] on Linux
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
Apparently, ~/.local/share/applications is probably the better
location to use for this.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As a linux Cayenne user (and really, as a user on any platform), I
> don't see the point of installing Cayenne as an RPM or with any kind
> of installer. Different projects require different versions of
> Cayenne, and I wouldn't want an automatic upgrade changing the version
> on me.
>
> As for a desktop app, I think all that you have to do is create a
> CayenneModeller.desktop file and copy it to the Desktop folder. This
> is under OpenSUSE Mate (previously Gnome) but I think it also works
> for KDE and other window managers.
>
> Here's an example of an entry I created for Eclipse:
>
>
> mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat eclipse.desktop
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=Eclipse
> X-SuSE-translate=true
> Categories=Development;IDE;
> Exec=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse.sh -vm /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java
> GenericName=Eclipse IDE
> X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
> MimeType=application/x-designer;
> Icon=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse128.png
> Type=Application
> Comment[en_US]=see eclipse.ini for command-line args
> GenericName[en_US]=Eclipse IDE
>
> Here's one I just threw together for Cayenne Modeler. I don't
> pretend to be an expert on what all of the parameters mean, so some of
> them may be wrong.
>
> mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat CayenneModeler.desktop
> [Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
> X-SuSE-translate=true
> Categories=Development;Programming
> Exec=/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java -jar
> /home/mkienenb/java/cayenne-3.1B2/bin/CayenneModeler.jar
> GenericName=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
> X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
> MimeType=application/x-designer;
> Icon=/home/mkienenb/workspaces/cayenne-checkout/STABLE-3.1/modeler/cayenne-modeler/src/main/resources/org/apache/cayenne/modeler/images/CayenneModeler.jpg
> Type=Application
> Comment[en_US]=
> GenericName[en_US]=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
>
> However, when I tried to use $JAVA_HOME/bin/java, that failed, so you
> probably cannot have a path based on an environment variable, which
> means you would need to create it with a shell script rather than just
> drag it onto your desktop.
>
> If you copy it into /usr/share/applications, it shows up in the menus
> on my system, with Categories controlling which menus.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>> So now we are talking about installer, i.e. something a level up from just a desktop app packager. I wonder if having an .rpm and friends will do more harm than good, with blanket system updates upgrading Cayenne to a version not compatible with the user apps (Cayenne is not a system component after all, it is a dev library).
>>
>> I wish there was something on Linux similar to OS X app bundle that would allow people to drag a single folder from tar.gz to Desktop and get a launcher with a Cayenne icon, not just a jar. I haven’t followed Linux desktop development lately. Maybe there is such solution?
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Adrian A. <a....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> ... most of the work happened outside Cayenne, going into japp-maven-plugin [1], which has become again a modern cross-platform tool to assemble Java desktop apps.
>>>
>>> Any plans to support the various Unix distributions (so not just an
>>> executable JAR)? :
>>> http://mojo.codehaus.org/unix/
>>>
>>> The usefulness is of course limited, but the project's visibility
>>> would be increased since it could be submitted to those distributions
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Adrian.
Re: Cayenne[Modeler] on Linux
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
As a linux Cayenne user (and really, as a user on any platform), I
don't see the point of installing Cayenne as an RPM or with any kind
of installer. Different projects require different versions of
Cayenne, and I wouldn't want an automatic upgrade changing the version
on me.
As for a desktop app, I think all that you have to do is create a
CayenneModeller.desktop file and copy it to the Desktop folder. This
is under OpenSUSE Mate (previously Gnome) but I think it also works
for KDE and other window managers.
Here's an example of an entry I created for Eclipse:
mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat eclipse.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Eclipse
X-SuSE-translate=true
Categories=Development;IDE;
Exec=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse.sh -vm /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java
GenericName=Eclipse IDE
X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
MimeType=application/x-designer;
Icon=/home/mkienenb/Apps/eclipse/eclipse128.png
Type=Application
Comment[en_US]=see eclipse.ini for command-line args
GenericName[en_US]=Eclipse IDE
Here's one I just threw together for Cayenne Modeler. I don't
pretend to be an expert on what all of the parameters mean, so some of
them may be wrong.
mkienenb@linux-4eqv:~/Desktop> cat CayenneModeler.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
X-SuSE-translate=true
Categories=Development;Programming
Exec=/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_34/bin/java -jar
/home/mkienenb/java/cayenne-3.1B2/bin/CayenneModeler.jar
GenericName=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
X-KDE-StartupNotify=true
MimeType=application/x-designer;
Icon=/home/mkienenb/workspaces/cayenne-checkout/STABLE-3.1/modeler/cayenne-modeler/src/main/resources/org/apache/cayenne/modeler/images/CayenneModeler.jpg
Type=Application
Comment[en_US]=
GenericName[en_US]=Cayenne 3.1 Modeler
However, when I tried to use $JAVA_HOME/bin/java, that failed, so you
probably cannot have a path based on an environment variable, which
means you would need to create it with a shell script rather than just
drag it onto your desktop.
If you copy it into /usr/share/applications, it shows up in the menus
on my system, with Categories controlling which menus.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> So now we are talking about installer, i.e. something a level up from just a desktop app packager. I wonder if having an .rpm and friends will do more harm than good, with blanket system updates upgrading Cayenne to a version not compatible with the user apps (Cayenne is not a system component after all, it is a dev library).
>
> I wish there was something on Linux similar to OS X app bundle that would allow people to drag a single folder from tar.gz to Desktop and get a launcher with a Cayenne icon, not just a jar. I haven’t followed Linux desktop development lately. Maybe there is such solution?
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Adrian A. <a....@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> ... most of the work happened outside Cayenne, going into japp-maven-plugin [1], which has become again a modern cross-platform tool to assemble Java desktop apps.
>>
>> Any plans to support the various Unix distributions (so not just an
>> executable JAR)? :
>> http://mojo.codehaus.org/unix/
>>
>> The usefulness is of course limited, but the project's visibility
>> would be increased since it could be submitted to those distributions
>> too.
>>
>> Adrian.
Cayenne[Modeler] on Linux
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
So now we are talking about installer, i.e. something a level up from just a desktop app packager. I wonder if having an .rpm and friends will do more harm than good, with blanket system updates upgrading Cayenne to a version not compatible with the user apps (Cayenne is not a system component after all, it is a dev library).
I wish there was something on Linux similar to OS X app bundle that would allow people to drag a single folder from tar.gz to Desktop and get a launcher with a Cayenne icon, not just a jar. I haven’t followed Linux desktop development lately. Maybe there is such solution?
Andrus
On Dec 1, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Adrian A. <a....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> ... most of the work happened outside Cayenne, going into japp-maven-plugin [1], which has become again a modern cross-platform tool to assemble Java desktop apps.
>
> Any plans to support the various Unix distributions (so not just an
> executable JAR)? :
> http://mojo.codehaus.org/unix/
>
> The usefulness is of course limited, but the project's visibility
> would be increased since it could be submitted to those distributions
> too.
>
> Adrian.