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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> on 2007/02/12 06:31:05 UTC
Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view to
the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree starting
with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders. Example:
A
- B
- F
- C
- F
In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
parent classloaders to F.
Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
(e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders. For
example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the parent
classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above the
tree would now look like:
B
- A
C
- A
F
- B
- C
Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
Thanks,
Jarek
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 12, 2007, at 12:31 AM, Jarek Gawor wrote:
>
> Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
IMO, most Geronimo "users" would be interested in the Classloader
hierarchy from a leaf's perspective. So, I'd say go for it...
--kevan
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 1, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Paul McMahan wrote:
> Committed in rev 513395, thanks! AFAIK there are no outstanding items
> remaining so I will go ahead and close the JIRA.
>
> Best wishes,
> Paul
>
> On 3/1/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Paul
>>
>> I have uploaded the patch to take care of sorting. Please review and
>> commit/comment.
Nice stuff, Rakesh. Thanks!
--kevan
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Committed in rev 513395, thanks! AFAIK there are no outstanding items
remaining so I will go ahead and close the JIRA.
Best wishes,
Paul
On 3/1/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Paul
>
> I have uploaded the patch to take care of sorting. Please review and
> commit/comment.
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
>
> On 2/27/07, Rakesh Midha < midha.rakesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I will look into the sorting request?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/07, Paul McMahan <paulmcmahan@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > Yes, I chair my own little PMC but unfortunately can't seem to keep
> > > the committers from flaming each other. You make it look so easy
> > > Matt! :-)
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 2/26/07, Matt Hogstrom < matt@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
> > > > > daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys
> > > >
> > > > So now we know where the real work is generated from the in the
> > > > McMahan family :)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Paul
I have uploaded the patch to take care of sorting. Please review and
commit/comment.
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/27/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul
>
> I will look into the sorting request?
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
> On 2/26/07, Paul McMahan <paulmcmahan@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I chair my own little PMC but unfortunately can't seem to keep
> > the committers from flaming each other. You make it look so easy
> > Matt! :-)
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Paul
> >
> > On 2/26/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
> > > > daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys
> > >
> > > So now we know where the real work is generated from the in the
> > > McMahan family :)
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Paul
I will look into the sorting request?
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/26/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I chair my own little PMC but unfortunately can't seem to keep
> the committers from flaming each other. You make it look so easy
> Matt! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
> Paul
>
> On 2/26/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
> > > daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys
> >
> > So now we know where the real work is generated from the in the
> > McMahan family :)
> >
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I chair my own little PMC but unfortunately can't seem to keep
the committers from flaming each other. You make it look so easy
Matt! :-)
Best wishes,
Paul
On 2/26/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
> > daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys
>
> So now we know where the real work is generated from the in the
> McMahan family :)
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
On Feb 25, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:
> Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
> daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys
So now we know where the real work is generated from the in the
McMahan family :)
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the patch Rakesh! Looks great, I committed it. With my
daugther sitting on my lap trying to press keys I got rushed and
forgot to credit you in the commit log, sorry about that.
I left GERONIMO-2854 open in case you wanted to implement the
additional feature that Jarek requested. Or you may want to go ahead
and mark it as resolved.
Best wishes,
Paul
On 2/21/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Jarek
>
> I have created a patch in
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2854 to add
> the feature we discussed.
>
> Please review and comment.
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
>
>
>
> On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry Paul
> >
> > I missed your last mail, when I suggested toggle.
> >
> > Selecting particular node when toggle happens, I am not sure about that
> part, will have to implement it and only than I can comment :-) No promise
> on this one.
> >
> > Alright I will open a JIRA and get it done
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha < midha.rakesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
> > > >
> > > > Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view
> will make
> > > > console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
> > > >
> > > > How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button
> in
> > > > existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will
> inverse
> > > > the tree in same view.
> > >
> > > That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
> > > the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
> > > hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion was
> > > to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node in
> > > the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
> > > toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
> > > selected node already expanded and highlighted.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this
> task
> > > > and get it done.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Rakesh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node
> and
> > > > > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> > > > > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> > > > > and the nodes highlighted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view
> to
> > > > > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > > > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree
> starting
> > > > > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders.
> Example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A
> > > > > > - B
> > > > > > - F
> > > > > > - C
> > > > > > - F
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > > > > > parent classloaders to F.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > > > > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> > > > > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders.
> For
> > > > > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the
> parent
> > > > > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above
> the
> > > > > > tree would now look like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B
> > > > > > - A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C
> > > > > > - A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > F
> > > > > > - B
> > > > > > - C
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Jarek
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, I was thinking about it but than I thought about keeping it in the
order they are loaded.
Will keep it in my TODO and will do it later (i hope that is fine)
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/23/07, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just deployed it on my machine and I love it! Thanks a ton! :)
>
> One minor comment: can the list of classloaders be sorted
> alphabetically? (in whatever view or depth)?
>
> Thanks again,
> Jarek
>
> On 2/21/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Jarek
> >
> > I have created a patch in
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2854 to add
> > the feature we discussed.
> >
> > Please review and comment.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sorry Paul
> > >
> > > I missed your last mail, when I suggested toggle.
> > >
> > > Selecting particular node when toggle happens, I am not sure about
> that
> > part, will have to implement it and only than I can comment :-) No
> promise
> > on this one.
> > >
> > > Alright I will open a JIRA and get it done
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Rakesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/13/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha < midha.rakesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view
> > will make
> > > > > console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
> > > > >
> > > > > How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or
> button
> > in
> > > > > existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this
> will
> > inverse
> > > > > the tree in same view.
> > > >
> > > > That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
> > > > the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
> > > > hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion
> was
> > > > to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node
> in
> > > > the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
> > > > toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
> > > > selected node already expanded and highlighted.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take
> this
> > task
> > > > > and get it done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Rakesh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a
> node
> > and
> > > > > > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node
> appears
> > > > > > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths
> expanded
> > > > > > and the nodes highlighted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader
> view
> > to
> > > > > > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > > > > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree
> > starting
> > > > > > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders.
> > Example:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A
> > > > > > > - B
> > > > > > > - F
> > > > > > > - C
> > > > > > > - F
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C
> are
> > > > > > > parent classloaders to F.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders
> sometimes
> > > > > > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the
> tree
> > > > > > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the
> classloaders.
> > For
> > > > > > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see
> the
> > parent
> > > > > > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example
> above
> > the
> > > > > > > tree would now look like:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > B
> > > > > > > - A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > C
> > > > > > > - A
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > F
> > > > > > > - B
> > > > > > > - C
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Jarek
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I just deployed it on my machine and I love it! Thanks a ton! :)
One minor comment: can the list of classloaders be sorted
alphabetically? (in whatever view or depth)?
Thanks again,
Jarek
On 2/21/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Jarek
>
> I have created a patch in
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2854 to add
> the feature we discussed.
>
> Please review and comment.
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
>
>
>
> On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry Paul
> >
> > I missed your last mail, when I suggested toggle.
> >
> > Selecting particular node when toggle happens, I am not sure about that
> part, will have to implement it and only than I can comment :-) No promise
> on this one.
> >
> > Alright I will open a JIRA and get it done
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha < midha.rakesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
> > > >
> > > > Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view
> will make
> > > > console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
> > > >
> > > > How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button
> in
> > > > existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will
> inverse
> > > > the tree in same view.
> > >
> > > That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
> > > the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
> > > hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion was
> > > to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node in
> > > the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
> > > toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
> > > selected node already expanded and highlighted.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this
> task
> > > > and get it done.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Rakesh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node
> and
> > > > > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> > > > > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> > > > > and the nodes highlighted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view
> to
> > > > > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > > > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree
> starting
> > > > > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders.
> Example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A
> > > > > > - B
> > > > > > - F
> > > > > > - C
> > > > > > - F
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > > > > > parent classloaders to F.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > > > > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> > > > > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders.
> For
> > > > > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the
> parent
> > > > > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above
> the
> > > > > > tree would now look like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B
> > > > > > - A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C
> > > > > > - A
> > > > > >
> > > > > > F
> > > > > > - B
> > > > > > - C
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Jarek
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Jarek
I have created a patch in
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2854to add the feature
we discussed.
Please review and comment.
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry Paul
>
> I missed your last mail, when I suggested toggle.
>
> Selecting particular node when toggle happens, I am not sure about that
> part, will have to implement it and only than I can comment :-) No promise
> on this one.
>
> Alright I will open a JIRA and get it done
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
>
>
> On 2/13/07, Paul McMahan < paulmcmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha < midha.rakesh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
> > >
> > > Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view
> > will make
> > > console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
> > >
> > > How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button
> > in
> > > existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will
> > inverse
> > > the tree in same view.
> >
> > That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
> > the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
> > hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion was
> > to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node in
> > the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
> > toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
> > selected node already expanded and highlighted.
> >
> > >
> > > Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this
> > task
> > > and get it done.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Rakesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node
> > and
> > > > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> > > > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> > > > and the nodes highlighted.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view
> > to
> > > > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree
> > starting
> > > > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders.
> > Example:
> > > > >
> > > > > A
> > > > > - B
> > > > > - F
> > > > > - C
> > > > > - F
> > > > >
> > > > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > > > > parent classloaders to F.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > > > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> >
> > > > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders.
> > For
> > > > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the
> > parent
> > > > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above
> > the
> > > > > tree would now look like:
> > > > >
> > > > > B
> > > > > - A
> > > > >
> > > > > C
> > > > > - A
> > > > >
> > > > > F
> > > > > - B
> > > > > - C
> > > > >
> > > > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Jarek
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
Sorry Paul
I missed your last mail, when I suggested toggle.
Selecting particular node when toggle happens, I am not sure about that
part, will have to implement it and only than I can comment :-) No promise
on this one.
Alright I will open a JIRA and get it done
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/13/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
> >
> > Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view will
> make
> > console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
> >
> > How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button in
> > existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will
> inverse
> > the tree in same view.
>
> That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
> the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
> hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion was
> to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node in
> the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
> toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
> selected node already expanded and highlighted.
>
> >
> > Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this
> task
> > and get it done.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node and
> > > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> > > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> > > and the nodes highlighted.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view to
> > > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree starting
> > > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders.
> Example:
> > > >
> > > > A
> > > > - B
> > > > - F
> > > > - C
> > > > - F
> > > >
> > > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > > > parent classloaders to F.
> > > >
> > > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> > > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders.
> For
> > > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the
> parent
> > > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above the
> > > > tree would now look like:
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > > - A
> > > >
> > > > C
> > > > - A
> > > >
> > > > F
> > > > - B
> > > > - C
> > > >
> > > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jarek
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 2/13/07, Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
>
> Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view will make
> console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
>
> How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button in
> existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will inverse
> the tree in same view.
That's exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned toggling between
the two types of views (inverse versus standard classloader
hierarchy). sorry for not being clear about that. My suggestion was
to make the toggle button sensitive to the currently selected node in
the classloader tree. e.g. when the user selects a node and then
toggles to the alternate view they see the treepaths containing the
selected node already expanded and highlighted.
>
> Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this task
> and get it done.
>
> Thanks
> Rakesh
>
>
>
>
> On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node and
> > easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> > in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> > and the nodes highlighted.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Paul
> >
> > On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor < jgawor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view to
> > > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree starting
> > > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders. Example:
> > >
> > > A
> > > - B
> > > - F
> > > - C
> > > - F
> > >
> > > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > > parent classloaders to F.
> > >
> > > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> > > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders. For
> > > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the parent
> > > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above the
> > > tree would now look like:
> > >
> > > B
> > > - A
> > >
> > > C
> > > - A
> > >
> > > F
> > > - B
> > > - C
> > >
> > > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jarek
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Rakesh Midha <mi...@gmail.com>.
As Jarek said, I had discussion with him before on it.
Well, The only concern I have is, additing too many redundent view will make
console uninteresting. I think we need to be careful.
How about this? Instead of adding new view, we add a check or button in
existing view "Show inverse tree". Clicking or checking this will inverse
the tree in same view.
Technically, having inverse tree is not a hard work. I can take this task
and get it done.
Thanks
Rakesh
On 2/12/07, Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node and
> easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
> in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
> and the nodes highlighted.
>
> Best wishes,
> Paul
>
> On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view to
> > the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> > comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree starting
> > with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders. Example:
> >
> > A
> > - B
> > - F
> > - C
> > - F
> >
> > In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> > parent classloaders to F.
> >
> > Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> > these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> > (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders. For
> > example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the parent
> > classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above the
> > tree would now look like:
> >
> > B
> > - A
> >
> > C
> > - A
> >
> > F
> > - B
> > - C
> >
> > Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jarek
> >
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Sounds useful. It would be great if the user could select a node and
easily toggle between the two types of views. When that node appears
in multiple places the tree could already have those paths expanded
and the nodes highlighted.
Best wishes,
Paul
On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was talking to Rakesh about adding additional classloader view to
> the Geronimo Console and we are wondering if people have any
> comments/thoughts about it. The current view show the tree starting
> with the system classloader and ends with child classloaders. Example:
>
> A
> - B
> - F
> - C
> - F
>
> In this case, A is a parent to B and C classloaders. And B, C are
> parent classloaders to F.
>
> Now, because Geronimo supports multi parent classloaders sometimes
> these child classloaders can appear in multiple places in the tree
> (e.g. F). So I proposed kind of inverse view of the classloaders. For
> example, for a given child classloader, I would like to see the parent
> classloaders as child nodes of the tree. Given the example above the
> tree would now look like:
>
> B
> - A
>
> C
> - A
>
> F
> - B
> - C
>
> Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
>
> Thanks,
> Jarek
>
Re: Additional 'inverse' classloader view in Geronimo Console
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@laskowski.net.pl>.
On 2/12/07, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would other people find this useful? (I know I would :))
Well, that's enough to make it happen, then. Go for it! (report a task
in jira before digging in, though).
Jacek
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