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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> on 2004/07/01 22:09:33 UTC
Re: ANNOUNCE: New whitelist source: public companies' domains [SCANNED]
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 6:32:12 AM, David Thurman wrote:
> On 7/1/04 8:19 AM, "jdow" wrote:
>> OK, what if a spam company trades publicly?
> Get them delisted ;)
Seriously, yes. The more public a company is, the more they have
to lose by breaking the law. Therefore public companies will
tend not to be spammers. It's no guarantee of course, but
perhaps an increased probability.
Jeff C.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: New whitelist source: public companies' domains [SCANNED]
Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Friday, July 2, 2004, 6:30:41 AM, AltGrendel AltGrendel wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:09, Jeff Chan wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 6:32:12 AM, David Thurman wrote:
>> > On 7/1/04 8:19 AM, "jdow" wrote:
>>
>> >> OK, what if a spam company trades publicly?
>>
>> > Get them delisted ;)
>>
>> Seriously, yes. The more public a company is, the more they have
>> to lose by breaking the law. Therefore public companies will
>> tend not to be spammers. It's no guarantee of course, but
>> perhaps an increased probability.
> This is why you read about sub-sub-sub-contracting for this stuff. It
> give the public company the "plausible deny-ability" card.
If a subcontractor is a spamhaus, their sending servers will
probably end up blocked on ordinary RBLs eventually.... QED
For SURBLs, which look at message body URIs, we need to minimize
collateral damage so that messages that innocently mention
mostly legitimate domains don't get blocked for mentioning them.
Jeff C.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: New whitelist source: public companies' domains
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Posted by David Thurman <li...@webpresencegroup.net>.
On 7/2/04 8:30 AM, "AltGrendel" wrote:
>>>> OK, what if a spam company trades publicly?
>>
>>> Get them delisted ;)
>>
>> Seriously, yes. The more public a company is, the more they have
>> to lose by breaking the law. Therefore public companies will
>> tend not to be spammers. It's no guarantee of course, but
>> perhaps an increased probability.
>>
>
> This is why you read about sub-sub-sub-contracting for this stuff. It
> give the public company the "plausible deny-ability" card.
Sort of how the CIA works.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: New whitelist source: public companies' domains
[SCANNED]
Posted by AltGrendel <al...@exit0.us>.
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:09, Jeff Chan wrote:
> On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 6:32:12 AM, David Thurman wrote:
> > On 7/1/04 8:19 AM, "jdow" wrote:
>
> >> OK, what if a spam company trades publicly?
>
> > Get them delisted ;)
>
> Seriously, yes. The more public a company is, the more they have
> to lose by breaking the law. Therefore public companies will
> tend not to be spammers. It's no guarantee of course, but
> perhaps an increased probability.
>
This is why you read about sub-sub-sub-contracting for this stuff. It
give the public company the "plausible deny-ability" card.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: New whitelist source: public companies' domains [SCANNED]
Posted by Chris Barnes <ch...@tamu.edu>.
Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> wrote:
> Seriously, yes. The more public a company is, the more they have
> to lose by breaking the law. Therefore public companies will
> tend not to be spammers. It's no guarantee of course, but
> perhaps an increased probability.
This will do nothing to stop the "legal spam".
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