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[VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
I move that Tapestry be:
* promoted out of the incubator
* promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
Tapestry committers:
[ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
[ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
[ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
[ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
Incubator PMC
[ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
[ ] +0 - no contest
[ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
[ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
Jakarta PMC
[ ] +1 - Welcome
[ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
[ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
[ ] -1 - Go away!
Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing for
all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
-Andy
Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
>
>http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
>
>Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other issues,
>such as properly building and signing the distros so that they can be
>mirrored.
>
>--
>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
>>To: Tapestry development
>>Cc: bodewig@apache.org
>>Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
>>
>>
>>Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
>>
>>(If so I'll propose it immediately)
>>
>>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Tapestry is now building using Gump.
>>>
>>>Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
>>>stage?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>
>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Richard Lewis-Shell <rl...@mac.com>.
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
+1
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
+1
Richard Lewis-Shell (Tapestry committer)
Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Jakarta PMC
+1
I haven't really looked at the code that closely either (and am still
puzzled why Tapestry thinks it needs jBoss to build, it doesn't ;-).
But I am convinced that the Tapestry committers form a community that
fits into the Apache world.
Stefan
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
You have my +1 binding vote as a PMC member. Site, docs, etc. look great.
Glenn
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [X] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing for
> all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
> -Andy
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
+1 to both. Geoff Longman, Tapestry Committer.
Geoffrey Longman
Intelligent Works Inc.
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
+1 to both. Geoff Longman, Tapestry Committer.
Geoffrey Longman
Intelligent Works Inc.
Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
You have my +1 binding vote as a PMC member. Site, docs, etc. look great.
Glenn
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [X] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing for
> all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
> -Andy
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 01:44 pm, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [X] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing
> for all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
James
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
As a Tapestry committer I vote +1
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 8:45 AM
> To: Tapestry development; Jakarta Project Management
> Committee List; pmc@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jakarta General List
> Subject: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [ ] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less
> confusing for
> all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
> -Andy
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>
> >I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
> >
> >http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
> >
> >Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other
> >issues, such as properly building and signing the distros so
> that they
> >can be mirrored.
> >
> >--
> >Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> >http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
> >>To: Tapestry development
> >>Cc: bodewig@apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
> >>
> >>
> >>Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
> >>
> >>(If so I'll propose it immediately)
> >>
> >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Tapestry is now building using Gump.
> >>>
> >>>Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
> >>>stage?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Access to Incubator CVS
Posted by Paul Hammant <Pa...@yahoo.com>.
Sander,
Thanks.
- Paul
>>From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@attbi.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:16 PM
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>Went to check out the files and look at them but don't have CVS access to
>>that part of the repository.
>>
>>
>
>*mumble mumble* Apparently you were granted karma to the area, but you
>were never added to the appropiate unix group. I just did that. Please
>try again.
>
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RE: Access to Incubator CVS
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@attbi.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:16 PM
> Went to check out the files and look at them but don't have CVS access to
> that part of the repository.
*mumble mumble* Apparently you were granted karma to the area, but you
were never added to the appropiate unix group. I just did that. Please
try again.
Sander
Re: Access to Incubator CVS
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
It will only be a matter of time before there are a number of forms to fill
out for any given function. ;-)
On 4/25/03 8:16 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
> Went to check out the files and look at them but don't have CVS access to
> that part of the repository.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
>> To: Tapestry development
>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>
>>
>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>>
>>> * promoted out of the incubator
>>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>
>> [...]
>>> Incubator PMC
>>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>
>> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
>> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>>
>> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
>> specific, in a mail pasted in
>> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
>> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
>> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
>> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>>
>> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
>> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sander
>>
>>
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RE: Access to Incubator CVS
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@attbi.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:16 PM
> Went to check out the files and look at them but don't have CVS access to
> that part of the repository.
*mumble mumble* Apparently you were granted karma to the area, but you
were never added to the appropiate unix group. I just did that. Please
try again.
Sander
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Access to Incubator CVS
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
Went to check out the files and look at them but don't have CVS access to
that part of the repository.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
> To: Tapestry development
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> > I move that Tapestry be:
> >
> > * promoted out of the incubator
> > * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> [...]
> > Incubator PMC
> > [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> > [ ] +0 - no contest
> > [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> > [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>
> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
> specific, in a mail pasted in
> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>
> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sander
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Sander Striker wrote, On 09/05/2003 20.59:
>>Are you ready to vote?
+1
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@attbi.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:29 PM
> This update occurred a while back?
Thanks Howard.
> Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS?
Looks good. I've also been following the discussions on
dev@tapestry and it seems you guys are right on track.
> Are you ready to vote?
Here's my +1.
Sander
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Re: PLEASE VOTE! Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>.
+1
On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 02:34 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Incubator,
>
> Jakarta has voted to accept. Tapestry has voted to move. Please vote
> to
> release.
>
> -Andy
>
> On 5/9/03 8:29 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> This update occurred a while back? Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS?
>> Are you
>> ready to vote?
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
>>> To: Tapestry development
>>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>>>
>>>> * promoted out of the incubator
>>>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>>>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>>>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>>>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>>
>>> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
>>> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>>>
>>> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
>>> specific, in a mail pasted in
>>> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
>>> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
>>> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
>>> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>>>
>>> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
>>> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sander
>>>
>>>
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Re: PLEASE VOTE! Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>.
+1
On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 02:34 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Incubator,
>
> Jakarta has voted to accept. Tapestry has voted to move. Please vote
> to
> release.
>
> -Andy
>
> On 5/9/03 8:29 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
>
>> This update occurred a while back? Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS?
>> Are you
>> ready to vote?
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
>>> To: Tapestry development
>>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>>>
>>>> * promoted out of the incubator
>>>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>>>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>>>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>>>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>>
>>> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
>>> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>>>
>>> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
>>> specific, in a mail pasted in
>>> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
>>> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
>>> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
>>> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>>>
>>> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
>>> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sander
>>>
>>>
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PLEASE VOTE! Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta
SubProject
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Incubator,
Jakarta has voted to accept. Tapestry has voted to move. Please vote to
release.
-Andy
On 5/9/03 8:29 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
> This update occurred a while back? Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS? Are you
> ready to vote?
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
>> To: Tapestry development
>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>
>>
>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>>
>>> * promoted out of the incubator
>>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>
>> [...]
>>> Incubator PMC
>>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>
>> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
>> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>>
>> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
>> specific, in a mail pasted in
>> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
>> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
>> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
>> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>>
>> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
>> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sander
>>
>>
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PLEASE VOTE! Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta
SubProject
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Incubator,
Jakarta has voted to accept. Tapestry has voted to move. Please vote to
release.
-Andy
On 5/9/03 8:29 AM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
> This update occurred a while back? Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS? Are you
> ready to vote?
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
>> To: Tapestry development
>> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>
>>
>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>>
>>> * promoted out of the incubator
>>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>
>> [...]
>>> Incubator PMC
>>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>
>> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
>> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>>
>> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
>> specific, in a mail pasted in
>> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
>> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
>> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
>> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>>
>> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
>> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sander
>>
>>
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
This update occurred a while back? Any feedback on tapestry/STATUS? Are you ready to vote?
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sander Striker [mailto:striker@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:13 AM
> To: Tapestry development
> Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> > I move that Tapestry be:
> >
> > * promoted out of the incubator
> > * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> [...]
> > Incubator PMC
> > [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> > [ ] +0 - no contest
> > [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> > [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS
> (using incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
>
> Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be
> specific, in a mail pasted in
> incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains about not
> knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or do
> you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain
> information or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
>
> And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is
> there anything you'd like to see cleared up?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sander
>
>
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
Hi,
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
[...]
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS (using
incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be specific,
in a mail pasted in incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains
about not knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or
do you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain information
or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is there
anything you'd like to see cleared up?
Thanks,
Sander
Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Oh. I hadn't seen any incubator votes.... humm
Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>That's everyone but Neil on the Tapestry front.
>
>In the Incubator and Jakarta PMC's its humming along, a couple of +0 and a
>few +1s. I suspect this will continue to run for a few more days until
>Andrew calls the final tally. I very much doubt there will be a -1 at this
>point, though I am worred that there will be insufficient +1s.
>
>--
>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Solis [mailto:dsolis@legosoft.com.mx]
>>Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:45 AM
>>To: 'Tapestry development'
>>Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>
>>
>>As Tapestry committer I vote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>* promoted out of the incubator
>>>
>>>
>>+ 1
>>
>>
>>>* promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>>
>>>
>>+ 1
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
That's everyone but Neil on the Tapestry front.
In the Incubator and Jakarta PMC's its humming along, a couple of +0 and a
few +1s. I suspect this will continue to run for a few more days until
Andrew calls the final tally. I very much doubt there will be a -1 at this
point, though I am worred that there will be insufficient +1s.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Solis [mailto:dsolis@legosoft.com.mx]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:45 AM
> To: 'Tapestry development'
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> As Tapestry committer I vote:
>
> > * promoted out of the incubator
> + 1
> > * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
> + 1
>
>
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by David Solis <ds...@legosoft.com.mx>.
As Tapestry committer I vote:
> * promoted out of the incubator
+ 1
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
+ 1
RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
As a Tapestry committer I vote +1
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 8:45 AM
> To: Tapestry development; Jakarta Project Management
> Committee List; pmc@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Jakarta General List
> Subject: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [ ] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less
> confusing for
> all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
> -Andy
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>
> >I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
> >
> >http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
> >
> >Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other
> >issues, such as properly building and signing the distros so
> that they
> >can be mirrored.
> >
> >--
> >Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> >http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> >>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
> >>To: Tapestry development
> >>Cc: bodewig@apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
> >>
> >>
> >>Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
> >>
> >>(If so I'll propose it immediately)
> >>
> >>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Tapestry is now building using Gump.
> >>>
> >>>Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
> >>>stage?
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [ X ] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
We've used Tapestry in the office for the last year. While it's not
clicked with me, others enjoy using it and prefer it to alternatives for
some types of applications [and vice versa for others, being Struts,
JSTL/Taglibs and Velocity].
Hen
Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Ceki Gülcü <ce...@qos.ch>.
Quote:
"Tapestry is an alternative to scripting environments such as JavaServer
Pages or Velocity. Tapestry goes far further, providing a complete
framework for creating extremely dynamic applications with minimal amounts
of coding."
If Tapestry lives up to its promise than it could well be a domain-killer
project.
Admittedly, I have not yet made the required investment to properly study
Tapestry. However, the project seems to display many of
the characteristics of a successful Apache project. It offers a very
useful abstraction. It seems be well documented and to benefit from an
active developer community lead by a focused and dedicated individual.
Tapestry treads on the same turf as existing Jakarta projects (e.g.
Velocity, Struts). However, Tapestry seems to offer a complete solution
rather than parts of it.
Given the above, here is my (binding) vote:
Jakarta PMC
[X] +1 - Welcome
[ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
[ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
[ ] -1 - Go away!
Welcome to Tapestry!
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Ceki Gülcü <ce...@qos.ch>.
Quote:
"Tapestry is an alternative to scripting environments such as JavaServer
Pages or Velocity. Tapestry goes far further, providing a complete
framework for creating extremely dynamic applications with minimal amounts
of coding."
If Tapestry lives up to its promise than it could well be a domain-killer
project.
Admittedly, I have not yet made the required investment to properly study
Tapestry. However, the project seems to display many of
the characteristics of a successful Apache project. It offers a very
useful abstraction. It seems be well documented and to benefit from an
active developer community lead by a focused and dedicated individual.
Tapestry treads on the same turf as existing Jakarta projects (e.g.
Velocity, Struts). However, Tapestry seems to offer a complete solution
rather than parts of it.
Given the above, here is my (binding) vote:
Jakarta PMC
[X] +1 - Welcome
[ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
[ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
[ ] -1 - Go away!
Welcome to Tapestry!
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Glen Stampoultzis <gs...@iinet.net.au>.
+1
At 10:44 PM 18/04/2003, you wrote:
>I move that Tapestry be:
>
>* promoted out of the incubator
>* promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
>Tapestry committers:
>[ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
>[ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
>[ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
>[ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
>Incubator PMC
>[ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>[ ] +0 - no contest
>[ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>[ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
>Jakarta PMC
>[ ] +1 - Welcome
>[ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
>[ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
>[ ] -1 - Go away!
>
>Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing for
>all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
>-Andy
>
>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>
>>I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
>>
>>http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
>>
>>Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other issues,
>>such as properly building and signing the distros so that they can be
>>mirrored.
>>
>>--
>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org] Sent: Thursday,
>>>April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
>>>To: Tapestry development
>>>Cc: bodewig@apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
>>>
>>>
>>>Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
>>>
>>>(If so I'll propose it immediately)
>>>
>>>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tapestry is now building using Gump.
>>>>
>>>>Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal" stage?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [ X ] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
We've used Tapestry in the office for the last year. While it's not
clicked with me, others enjoy using it and prefer it to alternatives for
some types of applications [and vice versa for others, being Struts,
JSTL/Taglibs and Velocity].
Hen
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:45 PM
Hi,
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
[...]
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
Could you please update incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS (using
incubator/STATUS as a guide)?
Tapestry developers, do you have any questions? To be specific,
in a mail pasted in incubator/projects/tapestry/STATUS Howard complains
about not knowing who is in the know. Is this still a problem, or
do you guys know where to turn when you need to obtain information
or when you have infrastructural issues/requests?
And lastly, are you aware of the structure of the ASF? Or is there
anything you'd like to see cleared up?
Thanks,
Sander
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Re: Nomination
Posted by Erik Hatcher <ja...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 09:26 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> BTW I nominate Erik Hatcher for the Jakarta PMC
*ugh* - open my "mouth" and look what I get.... :)
I don't quite know what it means to be on the PMC. Heck, I'm on the
Ant PMC and am clueless about what my responsibilities are (besides
voting on decisions).
My plate is already fuller than I can comprehend. I have a wall-sized
calendar to keep track of my schedule, and its still chaos.
But as long as all I have to do is send -1/+0/+1 e-mails then sure,
I'll accept the nomination. :)
Erik
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Nomination
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
BTW I nominate Erik Hatcher for the Jakarta PMC
-Andy
Erik Hatcher wrote:
> I don't think I qualify for any of those roles, but here is my +1 to
> moving Tapestry to a full Jakarta SubProject. Its long overdue and
> certainly more than deserved. Tapestry is a top-quality project.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 08:44 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>
>> * promoted out of the incubator
>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>
>> Tapestry committers:
>> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
>> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
>> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
>> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>>
>> Incubator PMC
>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>
>> Jakarta PMC
>> [ ] +1 - Welcome
>> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
>> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
>> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>>
>> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing
>> for all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>>> I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
>>>
>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
>>>
>>> Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other
>>> issues,
>>> such as properly building and signing the distros so that they can be
>>> mirrored.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org] Sent:
>>>> Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
>>>> To: Tapestry development
>>>> Cc: bodewig@apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
>>>>
>>>> (If so I'll propose it immediately)
>>>>
>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tapestry is now building using Gump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
>>>>> stage?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Your vote counts to me Erik! :-)
Erik Hatcher wrote:
> I don't think I qualify for any of those roles, but here is my +1 to
> moving Tapestry to a full Jakarta SubProject. Its long overdue and
> certainly more than deserved. Tapestry is a top-quality project.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 08:44 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
>> I move that Tapestry be:
>>
>> * promoted out of the incubator
>> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>>
>> Tapestry committers:
>> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
>> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
>> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
>> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>>
>> Incubator PMC
>> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
>> [ ] +0 - no contest
>> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
>> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>>
>> Jakarta PMC
>> [ ] +1 - Welcome
>> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
>> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
>> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>>
>> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing
>> for all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>>> I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
>>>
>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
>>>
>>> Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other
>>> issues,
>>> such as properly building and signing the distros so that they can be
>>> mirrored.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org] Sent:
>>>> Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
>>>> To: Tapestry development
>>>> Cc: bodewig@apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
>>>>
>>>> (If so I'll propose it immediately)
>>>>
>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tapestry is now building using Gump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
>>>>> stage?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Here's a non-binding, non-pmc, easter +1.
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"Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote on 20/04/2003 06:11:52 AM:
> Yes, Andrew (C. Oliver) pointed out that I probably did more harm than
good
> with my posting. And unfounded, at least one binding +1 is already
there.
>
> --
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> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:23 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
> >
> >
> > > I'll be very upset and
> > > frustrated if this vote fails from apathy, given how much work I
> > > and others
> > > have put into it.
> >
> > I know that, well I guessed it, and therefore chose to make
> > it clear that I will be happy to see Tapestry become part of
> > Jakarta as long as there is a majority in favour.
> >
> > What I didn't mean to do was to be apathetic. I *really*
> > have not had time to do *any* looking at Tapestry, I have
> > almost zero time ATM for nearly anything once I have
> > discharged my obligations to work and kids, so what time I do
> > have is rationed amongst the things I'm already commited to.
> >
> > If the whole Jakarta PMC vote as I do then Tapestry will fail
> > to be accepted through apathy, and we should be ashamed, but
> > I really don't expect you will get no +1's at all,
> > particularly if it is true that you've been active in
> > commons, and donating code there.
> >
> > d.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Brett Porter <bp...@f2network.com.au>.
What state are you in? I was here yesterday... :(
Peter Donald wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Note Howard that probably few votes will be cast until Monday :-)
>>
>>Or even Tuesday 8-)
>>
>>Those legendary Europeans with their six week vacations also tend to
>>have prolonged holidays (there is an "Easter Monday" in Germany).
>
>
> Us Aussies get Tuesday off too :)
>
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Note Howard that probably few votes will be cast until Monday :-)
>
> Or even Tuesday 8-)
>
> Those legendary Europeans with their six week vacations also tend to
> have prolonged holidays (there is an "Easter Monday" in Germany).
Us Aussies get Tuesday off too :)
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Santiago Gala <sg...@hisitech.com>.
Danny Angus wrote:
>>Those legendary Europeans with their six week vacations also tend to
>>have prolonged holidays (there is an "Easter Monday" in Germany).
>
>
> And Scotland, and I suspect England too.
>
And some regions (Cataluña, Valencia,...) of Spain. Not Madrid :-(
> d.
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> Those legendary Europeans with their six week vacations also tend to
> have prolonged holidays (there is an "Easter Monday" in Germany).
And Scotland, and I suspect England too.
d.
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Sat, 19 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Note Howard that probably few votes will be cast until Monday :-)
Or even Tuesday 8-)
Those legendary Europeans with their six week vacations also tend to
have prolonged holidays (there is an "Easter Monday" in Germany).
Stefan
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Oh and +1 (binding) from me. Note Howard that probably few votes will be
cast until Monday :-)
-Andy
On 4/19/03 4:11 PM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> wrote:
> Yes, Andrew (C. Oliver) pointed out that I probably did more harm than good
> with my posting. And unfounded, at least one binding +1 is already there.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:23 PM
>> To: Jakarta General List
>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>>
>>
>>> I'll be very upset and
>>> frustrated if this vote fails from apathy, given how much work I
>>> and others
>>> have put into it.
>>
>> I know that, well I guessed it, and therefore chose to make
>> it clear that I will be happy to see Tapestry become part of
>> Jakarta as long as there is a majority in favour.
>>
>> What I didn't mean to do was to be apathetic. I *really*
>> have not had time to do *any* looking at Tapestry, I have
>> almost zero time ATM for nearly anything once I have
>> discharged my obligations to work and kids, so what time I do
>> have is rationed amongst the things I'm already commited to.
>>
>> If the whole Jakarta PMC vote as I do then Tapestry will fail
>> to be accepted through apathy, and we should be ashamed, but
>> I really don't expect you will get no +1's at all,
>> particularly if it is true that you've been active in
>> commons, and donating code there.
>>
>> d.
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
Yes, Andrew (C. Oliver) pointed out that I probably did more harm than good
with my posting. And unfounded, at least one binding +1 is already there.
--
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 3:23 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
> > I'll be very upset and
> > frustrated if this vote fails from apathy, given how much work I
> > and others
> > have put into it.
>
> I know that, well I guessed it, and therefore chose to make
> it clear that I will be happy to see Tapestry become part of
> Jakarta as long as there is a majority in favour.
>
> What I didn't mean to do was to be apathetic. I *really*
> have not had time to do *any* looking at Tapestry, I have
> almost zero time ATM for nearly anything once I have
> discharged my obligations to work and kids, so what time I do
> have is rationed amongst the things I'm already commited to.
>
> If the whole Jakarta PMC vote as I do then Tapestry will fail
> to be accepted through apathy, and we should be ashamed, but
> I really don't expect you will get no +1's at all,
> particularly if it is true that you've been active in
> commons, and donating code there.
>
> d.
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> I'll be very upset and
> frustrated if this vote fails from apathy, given how much work I
> and others
> have put into it.
I know that, well I guessed it, and therefore chose to make it clear that I will be happy to see Tapestry become part of Jakarta as long as there is a majority in favour.
What I didn't mean to do was to be apathetic. I *really* have not had time to do *any* looking at Tapestry, I have almost zero time ATM for nearly anything once I have discharged my obligations to work and kids, so what time I do have is rationed amongst the things I'm already commited to.
If the whole Jakarta PMC vote as I do then Tapestry will fail to be accepted through apathy, and we should be ashamed, but I really don't expect you will get no +1's at all, particularly if it is true that you've been active in commons, and donating code there.
d.
>
> As I understand it, your criteria is whether Tapestry's community
> is active
> and a good fit for Jakarta. I think with just a little bit of research of
> the home page and the mailing list archives, you'll see that:
> - We have an active community of smart, professional, helpful developers
> (yet to see a flame war)
> - We're committed to the meritocracy rules, having elected new committers
> and voted on many subjects
> - We've begun to cross-contribute to other Jakarta projects (commons, in
> particular)
> - We've integrated into Jakarta, replacing Tapestry code with Jakarta code
> (commons-lang, commons-digester, commons-fileupload)
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:57 AM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
> >
> >
> >
> > As I haven't had the time to really look at Tapestry
> >
> > +0 [PMC]
> >
> > I'll accept the majority decision of those who have.
> >
> > d.
> >
> > > > [ ] +1 - Welcome
> > > > [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> > > > [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> > > > [ ] -1 - Go away!
> >
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
"All it takes for evil to florish is for good men to do nothing."
That's a little extreme, but I doubt anyone on the PMC has really looked at
Tapestry; there isn't much incentive for them to do so (unless they need to
implement a really snazzy web application). I'll be very upset and
frustrated if this vote fails from apathy, given how much work I and others
have put into it.
As I understand it, your criteria is whether Tapestry's community is active
and a good fit for Jakarta. I think with just a little bit of research of
the home page and the mailing list archives, you'll see that:
- We have an active community of smart, professional, helpful developers
(yet to see a flame war)
- We're committed to the meritocracy rules, having elected new committers
and voted on many subjects
- We've begun to cross-contribute to other Jakarta projects (commons, in
particular)
- We've integrated into Jakarta, replacing Tapestry code with Jakarta code
(commons-lang, commons-digester, commons-fileupload)
--
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:57 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
>
>
>
> As I haven't had the time to really look at Tapestry
>
> +0 [PMC]
>
> I'll accept the majority decision of those who have.
>
> d.
>
> > > [ ] +1 - Welcome
> > > [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> > > [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> > > [ ] -1 - Go away!
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RE: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
As I haven't had the time to really look at Tapestry
+0 [PMC]
I'll accept the majority decision of those who have.
d.
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Re: [VOTE] Promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta SubProject
Posted by Erik Hatcher <ja...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
I don't think I qualify for any of those roles, but here is my +1 to
moving Tapestry to a full Jakarta SubProject. Its long overdue and
certainly more than deserved. Tapestry is a top-quality project.
Erik
On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 08:44 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> I move that Tapestry be:
>
> * promoted out of the incubator
> * promoted to Jakarta SubProject status
>
> Tapestry committers:
> [ ] +1 - Yeah lets finally make it
> [ ] +0 - Who cares, whatever you guys think is best
> [ ] -0 - I don't like it but I don't care enough to object
> [ ] -1 - I object, I like the incubator, who needs Jakarta anyhow!
>
> Incubator PMC
> [ ] +1 - Yeah and good riddence
> [ ] +0 - no contest
> [ ] -0 - no contest and I don't like it
> [ ] -1 - No...you must stay...
>
> Jakarta PMC
> [ ] +1 - Welcome
> [ ] +0 - Don't care but don't object
> [ ] -0 - Don't like it but don't object
> [ ] -1 - Go away!
>
> Please signify your vote and your role. I think its less confusing
> for all three chambers of the tricameral house vote at once.
>
> -Andy
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>
>> I just did a new audit. We should be good to go.
>>
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TapestryAudits/Apr2003
>>
>> Since the Gump thing cleared up, I can concentrate on some other
>> issues,
>> such as properly building and signing the distros so that they can be
>> mirrored.
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:acoliver@apache.org] Sent: Thursday,
>>> April 17, 2003 10:37 PM
>>> To: Tapestry development
>>> Cc: bodewig@apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry and Gump
>>>
>>>
>>> Are all licensing and legal issues resolved?
>>>
>>> (If so I'll propose it immediately)
>>>
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tapestry is now building using Gump.
>>>>
>>>> Stephan Bodewig has stepped in (thanks!) and made this happen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://nagoya.apache.org/~rubys/gump/jakarta-tapestry.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this mean we can start thinking about leaving the "proposal"
>>>> stage?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>>
>>>>
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