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Posted to dev@livy.apache.org by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> on 2017/07/28 07:42:27 UTC
To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi Team,
We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current code.
What do you think?
Thanks
Saisai
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not sure
if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished (tracking
in LIVY-87 and LIVY-384). If others are fine releasing with these feature
partially complete then I'll be okay as well.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
+1 for making the first apache release.
Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> Hi Team,
>
> We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current code.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Saisai
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
The version should have incubating in the artifact version.
A more detailed guide is available at
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
A script that might help is available at
https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On the note of our first release, I was looking at other projects and
> noticed an inconsistency. Should our release version be 0.4.0 or
> 0.4.0-incubating ?
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---08/02/2017 06:41:09
> PM---Hi Team, We're planning to release a first Apache version of]Saisai
> Shao ---08/02/2017 06:41:09 PM---Hi Team, We're planning to release a first
> Apache version of Livy. Would you please
>
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 08/02/2017 06:41 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Team,
>
> We're planning to release a first Apache version of Livy. Would you please
> guide us the process of Apache incubating release, is there any doc to
> follow. Thanks a lot!
>
> Best regards
> Saisai
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> release.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> >> repo:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> >> Livy Docs
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
> Docs
> >> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
> the
> >> release)
> >>
> >> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> >> remaining UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> >> release.
> >>
> >> *Alex Bozarth*
> >> Software Engineer
> >> Spark Technology Center
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >>
> >>
> >> 505 Howard Street
> >> San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> United States
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> >> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> y]Saisai
> >> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
> for
> >> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> >>
> >> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> >> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> >> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> >> merge in 0.4 release?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
> >> +1
> >> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > Software Engineer
> >> > Spark Technology Center
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 505 Howard Street
> >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > United States
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> 01:01:16
> >> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> >> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> should
> >> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> >> >
> >> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> >> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> >> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> and
> >> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
> >> are
> >> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
> >> as
> >> > well.
> >> >
> >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > Software Engineer
> >> > Spark Technology Center
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 505 Howard Street
> >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > United States
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> >> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >> >
> >> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > +1 for making the first apache release.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Team,
> >> > >
> >> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
> it
> >> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> >> code.
> >> > > What do you think?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > > Saisai
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
On the note of our first release, I was looking at other projects and
noticed an inconsistency. Should our release version be 0.4.0 or
0.4.0-incubating ?
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 08/02/2017 06:41 PM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi Team,
We're planning to release a first Apache version of Livy. Would you please
guide us the process of Apache incubating release, is there any doc to
follow. Thanks a lot!
Best regards
Saisai
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
release.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>
>> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
>> repo:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
>> Livy Docs
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
>> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
the
>> release)
>>
>> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
>> remaining UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
>> release.
>>
>> *Alex Bozarth*
>> Software Engineer
>> Spark Technology Center
>> ------------------------------
>> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>>
>>
>> 505 Howard Street
>> San Francisco, CA 94105
>> United States
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
>> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
y]Saisai
>> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
for
>> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>>
>> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
>> merge in 0.4 release?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
>> +1
>> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
>> >
>> >
>> > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Spark Technology Center
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> >
>> >
>> > 505 Howard Street
>> > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
01:01:16
>> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
>> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
should
>> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
>> >
>> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
>> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
>> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
and
>> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
>> are
>> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
>> as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Spark Technology Center
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> >
>> >
>> > 505 Howard Street
>> > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
>> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午
3:42写道：
>> >
>> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
>> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 for making the first apache release.
>> >
>> >
>> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>> >
>> > > Hi Team,
>> > >
>> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
it
>> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
>> code.
>> > > What do you think?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Saisai
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Team,
We're planning to release a first Apache version of Livy. Would you please
guide us the process of Apache incubating release, is there any doc to
follow. Thanks a lot!
Best regards
Saisai
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
>> repo:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
>> Livy Docs
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
>> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after the
>> release)
>>
>> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
>> remaining UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
>> release.
>>
>> *Alex Bozarth*
>> Software Engineer
>> Spark Technology Center
>> ------------------------------
>> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>>
>>
>> 505 Howard Street
>> San Francisco, CA 94105
>> United States
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
>> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
>> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for
>> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>>
>> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
>> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
>> merge in 0.4 release?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
>> +1
>> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
>> >
>> >
>> > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Spark Technology Center
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> >
>> >
>> > 505 Howard Street
>> > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
>> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
>> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should
>> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
>> >
>> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
>> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
>> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
>> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
>> are
>> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
>> as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Spark Technology Center
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> >
>> >
>> > 505 Howard Street
>> > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
>> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>> >
>> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
>> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 for making the first apache release.
>> >
>> >
>> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>> >
>> > > Hi Team,
>> > >
>> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
>> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
>> code.
>> > > What do you think?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Saisai
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
@Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4
) so I'm wondering what you mean by not including feature work. Are you
suggesting we revert some of the work for this release and the re-merge it
later, or just that you would've preferred it that was released without new
features, but are okay with how it is anyway? If you're worried about
adding features in the first Apache release should we also look at
re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating or back support, personally I think
it's not worth it.
As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month cadence
(was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving to a
4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi,
My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release so
that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent feature
that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include that
in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
incentive to move to the Apache release.
+1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core
feature work in follow up release.
On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release cadence.
Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that release
trains are available for features to out when the features are ready. Or
should do feature releases such that releases come out when major new
functionality has added. My preference is a time based release cadence
because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a
released form for end users.
Thanks!
Bikas
________________________________
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> repo:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build Livy
> Docs
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
the
> release)
>
> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
remaining
> UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
for
> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> merge in 0.4 release?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>
> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
+1
> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
should
> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> >
> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
are
> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
as
> > well.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午
3:42写道：
> >
> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for making the first apache release.
> >
> >
> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
it
> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> code.
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Saisai
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
I would suggest to test and verify on this RC release rather than voting
for now, because I'm not sure if I done correct or the process meets Apache
standards.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Does this mean we're opening a release vote? Or are we planning on having
> rc1 be QA rc's for livy? (there was some discussion on that on the Spark
> dev list last release)
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---08/07/2017 02:17:08
> AM---Hi Team, Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here]Saisai
> Shao ---08/07/2017 02:17:08 AM---Hi Team, Today I cut a RC1 release based
> on branch-0.4, here is the link (
>
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 08/07/2017 02:17 AM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Team,
>
> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
>
> Best regards,
> Saisai
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
> told
> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test
> > import then we could re-export for him.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I t]Bikas
> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug
> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> >
> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
> could
> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
> can
> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> >
> >
> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
> > fix releases available.
> >
> >
> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
> > can follow up on that.
> >
> >
> > Bikas
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >
> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
> not
> > so necessary.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > >
> https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
>
> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean
> by
> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
> work
> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
> > how
> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
> Apache
> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating
> or
> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > >
> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> > cadence
> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving
> to
> > a
> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> bearing]Bikas
> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to
> not
> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > >
> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
> > so
> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> > feature
> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
> > that
> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
> core
> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
> that
> > > release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
> > major
> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> > cadence
> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available
> in a
> > > released form for end users.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Bikas
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >
> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> > release.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> > website
> > > > repo:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> > > Livy
> > > > Docs
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
> > Docs
> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
> after
> > > the
> > > > release)
> > > >
> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > > remaining
> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> release.
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> > y]Saisai
> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
> JIRAs
> > > for
> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >
> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want
> to
> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote
> to
> > a
> > > +1
> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > United States
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> > 01:01:16
> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> soon,]"Alex
> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> > > should
> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
> > not
> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> > finished
> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87
> >
> > > and
> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
> others
> > > are
> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
> > okay
> > > as
> > > > > well.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > United States
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
> apache
> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
> think
> > > it
> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
> current
> > > > code.
> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Saisai
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
Does this mean we're opening a release vote? Or are we planning on having
rc1 be QA rc's for livy? (there was some discussion on that on the Spark
dev list last release)
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 08/07/2017 02:17 AM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi Team,
Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
Best regards,
Saisai
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
told
> us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test
> import then we could re-export for him.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I t]Bikas
> Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug
> fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
>
> From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
could
> be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
can
> gets an Apache release to transition to.
>
>
> Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
> fix releases available.
>
>
> Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
> can follow up on that.
>
>
> Bikas
>
> ________________________________
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>
> From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
not
> so necessary.
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean
by
> > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
work
> > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
> how
> > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
Apache
> > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating
or
> > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> >
> > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> cadence
> > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving
to
> a
> > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
bearing]Bikas
> > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to
not
> > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> >
> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
> so
> > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> >
> >
> > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> feature
> > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
> that
> > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> >
> >
> > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
core
> > feature work in follow up release.
> >
> >
> > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
that
> > release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
> major
> > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> cadence
> > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in
a
> > released form for end users.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Bikas
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >
> > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> release.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> website
> > > repo:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> > Livy
> > > Docs
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
> Docs
> > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
after
> > the
> > > release)
> > >
> > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > remaining
> > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
release.
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> y]Saisai
> > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
JIRAs
> > for
> > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > >
> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want
to
> > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote
to
> a
> > +1
> > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> 01:01:16
> > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
soon,]"Alex
> > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> > should
> > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > > >
> > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
> not
> > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> finished
> > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> > and
> > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
others
> > are
> > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
> okay
> > as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
apache
> > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下
午3:42写道：
> > > >
> > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写
道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
think
> > it
> > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
current
> > > code.
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Saisai
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Luciano for your comments, I will do it today.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
>
> Apache release requires source releases as described below
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
>
> Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
>
>
> Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and it's
> license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
>
> But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include any
> dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in the
> root of git today.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
> > please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Saisai
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> > > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
> > told
> > > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a
> test
> > > import then we could re-export for him.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> > > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> t]Bikas
> > > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like
> bug
> > > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > >
> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
> > could
> > > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
> > can
> > > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > >
> > >
> > > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make
> bug
> > > fix releases available.
> > >
> > >
> > > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If
> not, I
> > > can follow up on that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bikas
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >
> > > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> > > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
> > not
> > > so necessary.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you
> mean
> > by
> > > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
> > work
> > > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> > > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay
> with
> > > how
> > > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
> > Apache
> > > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating
> > or
> > > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > > >
> > > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> > > cadence
> > > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving
> > to
> > > a
> > > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> > > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > bearing]Bikas
> > > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to
> > not
> > > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > > >
> > > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first
> release
> > > so
> > > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> > > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> > > feature
> > > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to
> include
> > > that
> > > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users
> an
> > > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
> > core
> > > > feature work in follow up release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
> > that
> > > > release trains are available for features to out when the features
> are
> > > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
> > > major
> > > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> > > cadence
> > > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available
> > in a
> > > > released form for end users.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Bikas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >
> > > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> > > release.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> > > website
> > > > > repo:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log
> Page
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to
> build
> > > > Livy
> > > > > Docs
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add
> Livy
> > > Docs
> > > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
> > after
> > > > the
> > > > > release)
> > > > >
> > > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > > > remaining
> > > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> > release.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > United States
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017
> 07:12:11
> > > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> > > y]Saisai
> > > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
> > JIRAs
> > > > for
> > > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you
> want
> > to
> > > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <ajbozart@us.ibm.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote
> > to
> > > a
> > > > +1
> > > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > United States
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> > > 01:01:16
> > > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> > soon,]"Alex
> > > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> > > > should
> > > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> > > finished
> > > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> browse/LIVY-87
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
> > others
> > > > are
> > > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
> > > okay
> > > > as
> > > > > > well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > United States
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
> > apache
> > > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> > 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
> > think
> > > > it
> > > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
> > current
> > > > > code.
> > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Saisai
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
I think the question is more, what the users expect.... as Livy is a server
app, IMHO most users are expecting a binary release that they can just
start/run. But the community can decide, and maybe do a first source
release and subsequent binary release.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just created a new tag RC2 which includes new commits to generate
> third-party dependencies license through maven plugin. Would you please
> help to check and verify this RC2 (
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/0.4.0-incubating/),
> thanks!
>
> PS. I only upload the source release, not binary release.
>
> Question: are we inclined to release a source release or binary release for
> the first Apache version? Binary release requires more works but easy for
> user to use, what is your preference?
>
> Best regards
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The top level distribution (e.g. tar.gz should have a proper LICENSE and
> > NOTES) and it should reflect the included dependencies LICENSE and NOTES.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Luciano, should we include all the third jar license in a file in
> > binary
> > > release? I already add this as DEPENDENCIES file in each Livy jars
> > > META-INF, is it enough?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is also a simpler script for creating a release at bahir, it
> was
> > > > inspired by the Spark one.
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in
> > > Spark, I
> > > > > think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first
> > > release
> > > > I
> > > > > would like to do each step in person.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <
> vanzin@cloudera.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be
> > > reused
> > > > > > / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation
> > proposal,
> > > > > > if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the
> > licenses
> > > > > > there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <
> > > luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-
> packages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for
> users:
> > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-
> > packages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar
> and
> > > > it's
> > > > > > > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> > > > > > trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not
> > > include
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what
> is
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > root of git today.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <
> > > sai.sai.shao@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Team,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the
> link
> > (
> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > > > > > >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > > > > > >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/),
> > > would
> > > > > you
> > > > > > >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate
> your
> > > > help.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > > > >> Saisai
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they
> > hit
> > > a
> > > > > snag
> > > > > > >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us
> > > after.
> > > > > He
> > > > > > >> told
> > > > > > >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully
> > > > completed a
> > > > > > test
> > > > > > >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > >> > Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > >> > United States
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017
> > > > 07:22:50
> > > > > > >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me.
> > Hence
> > > I
> > > > > > t]Bikas
> > > > > > >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras
> > looked
> > > > like
> > > > > > bug
> > > > > > >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > > > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> > thought
> > > > 0.4
> > > > > > >> could
> > > > > > >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current
> state
> > so
> > > > > users
> > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would
> > help
> > > > > make
> > > > > > bug
> > > > > > >> > fix releases available.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira
> > process?
> > > If
> > > > > > not, I
> > > > > > >> > can follow up on that.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Bikas
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > > >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > > > > > >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as
> for
> > > > > Apache.
> > > > > > >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too
> > > time-consuming
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> not
> > > > > > >> > so necessary.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > > > > >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > > > > >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > >> by
> > > > > > >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert
> > some
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that
> you
> > > > > > would've
> > > > > > >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but
> are
> > > > okay
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> > how
> > > > > > >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > > >> Apache
> > > > > > >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> > > > > > 0.3.1-incubating
> > > > > > >> or
> > > > > > >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for
> a 6
> > > > month
> > > > > > >> > cadence
> > > > > > >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be
> > fine
> > > > > > moving
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > a
> > > > > > >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > >> > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > >> > > United States
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017
> > > > > 12:56:59
> > > > > > >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > > > > > >> bearing]Bikas
> > > > > > >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> not
> > > > > > >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could
> safe
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > > > > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing
> > > first
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > >> > so
> > > > > > >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the
> Apache
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > > >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively
> > > > independent
> > > > > > >> > feature
> > > > > > >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be
> fine
> > to
> > > > > > include
> > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it
> > gives
> > > > > users
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible.
> > And
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > >> core
> > > > > > >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of
> > > > release
> > > > > > >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release
> > > cadence
> > > > > such
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the
> > > > features
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases
> come
> > > out
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > >> > major
> > > > > > >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based
> > > > release
> > > > > > >> > cadence
> > > > > > >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes
> > > > > available
> > > > > > >> in a
> > > > > > >> > > released form for end users.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Bikas
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > > > > >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the
> first
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > >> > release.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up
> PR
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > website
> > > > > > >> > > > repo:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web
> > UI
> > > > Log
> > > > > > Page
> > > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <-
> > Ability
> > > > to
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > >> > > Livy
> > > > > > >> > > > Docs
> > > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7
> > <-
> > > > Add
> > > > > > Livy
> > > > > > >> > Docs
> > > > > > >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and
> > > merge
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >> after
> > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > release)
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is
> > complete,
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > remaining
> > > > > > >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the
> > > next
> > > > > > >> release.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > >> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > >> > > > United States
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao
> > ---07/31/2017
> > > > > > 07:12:11
> > > > > > >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI
> related
> > > > works
> > > > > > >> > y]Saisai
> > > > > > >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please
> > > list
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> JIRAs
> > > > > > >> > > for
> > > > > > >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related
> > works
> > > > you
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > > > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll
> > change
> > > my
> > > > > > vote
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > a
> > > > > > >> > > +1
> > > > > > >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth"
> > > > ---07/28/2017
> > > > > > >> > 01:01:16
> > > > > > >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a
> > release
> > > > > > >> soon,]"Alex
> > > > > > >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on
> this, I
> > > > think
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >> > > should
> > > > > > >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should
> > wait
> > > > > until
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> > soon,
> > > > but
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > >> > not
> > > > > > >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and
> > Documentation
> > > > are
> > > > > > >> > finished
> > > > > > >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> > > > > > browse/LIVY-87
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > and
> > > > > > >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> browse/LIVY-384
> > > >).
> > > > If
> > > > > > >> others
> > > > > > >> > > are
> > > > > > >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete
> > then
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > >> > okay
> > > > > > >> > > as
> > > > > > >> > > > > well.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > > >> apache
> > > > > > >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > 于2017年7月28日周五
> > > > > > >> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> > > 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to
> > > > Apache,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> think
> > > > > > >> > > it
> > > > > > >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > >> current
> > > > > > >> > > > code.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Saisai
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Marcelo
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi All,
I just created a new tag RC2 which includes new commits to generate
third-party dependencies license through maven plugin. Would you please
help to check and verify this RC2 (
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/0.4.0-incubating/),
thanks!
PS. I only upload the source release, not binary release.
Question: are we inclined to release a source release or binary release for
the first Apache version? Binary release requires more works but easy for
user to use, what is your preference?
Best regards
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The top level distribution (e.g. tar.gz should have a proper LICENSE and
> NOTES) and it should reflect the included dependencies LICENSE and NOTES.
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Luciano, should we include all the third jar license in a file in
> binary
> > release? I already add this as DEPENDENCIES file in each Livy jars
> > META-INF, is it enough?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is also a simpler script for creating a release at bahir, it was
> > > inspired by the Spark one.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in
> > Spark, I
> > > > think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first
> > release
> > > I
> > > > would like to do each step in person.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be
> > reused
> > > > > / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation
> proposal,
> > > > > if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the
> licenses
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <
> > luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-
> packages
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and
> > > it's
> > > > > > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> > > > > trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not
> > include
> > > > any
> > > > > > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > root of git today.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <
> > sai.sai.shao@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Team,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link
> (
> > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > > > > >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > > > > >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/),
> > would
> > > > you
> > > > > >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your
> > > help.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > > >> Saisai
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they
> hit
> > a
> > > > snag
> > > > > >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us
> > after.
> > > > He
> > > > > >> told
> > > > > >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully
> > > completed a
> > > > > test
> > > > > >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > >> > Software Engineer
> > > > > >> > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > >> > United States
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017
> > > 07:22:50
> > > > > >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me.
> Hence
> > I
> > > > > t]Bikas
> > > > > >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras
> looked
> > > like
> > > > > bug
> > > > > >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> thought
> > > 0.4
> > > > > >> could
> > > > > >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state
> so
> > > > users
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would
> help
> > > > make
> > > > > bug
> > > > > >> > fix releases available.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira
> process?
> > If
> > > > > not, I
> > > > > >> > can follow up on that.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Bikas
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > > >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > > > > >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for
> > > > Apache.
> > > > > >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too
> > time-consuming
> > > > and
> > > > > >> not
> > > > > >> > so necessary.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > ajbozart@us.ibm.com
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > > > >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > > > >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering
> what
> > > you
> > > > > mean
> > > > > >> by
> > > > > >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert
> some
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >> work
> > > > > >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you
> > > > > would've
> > > > > >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are
> > > okay
> > > > > with
> > > > > >> > how
> > > > > >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the
> > > first
> > > > > >> Apache
> > > > > >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> > > > > 0.3.1-incubating
> > > > > >> or
> > > > > >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6
> > > month
> > > > > >> > cadence
> > > > > >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be
> fine
> > > > > moving
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > a
> > > > > >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > >> > > Software Engineer
> > > > > >> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > >> > > United States
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017
> > > > 12:56:59
> > > > > >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > > > > >> bearing]Bikas
> > > > > >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would
> have
> > > been
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> not
> > > > > >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > > > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing
> > first
> > > > > release
> > > > > >> > so
> > > > > >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache
> > > > > release.
> > > > > >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively
> > > independent
> > > > > >> > feature
> > > > > >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine
> to
> > > > > include
> > > > > >> > that
> > > > > >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it
> gives
> > > > users
> > > > > an
> > > > > >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible.
> And
> > > > doing
> > > > > >> core
> > > > > >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of
> > > release
> > > > > >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release
> > cadence
> > > > such
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the
> > > features
> > > > > are
> > > > > >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come
> > out
> > > > > when
> > > > > >> > major
> > > > > >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based
> > > release
> > > > > >> > cadence
> > > > > >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes
> > > > available
> > > > > >> in a
> > > > > >> > > released form for end users.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Bikas
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > > > >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > > > >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first
> > > Apache
> > > > > >> > release.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR
> on
> > > the
> > > > > >> > website
> > > > > >> > > > repo:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web
> UI
> > > Log
> > > > > Page
> > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <-
> Ability
> > > to
> > > > > build
> > > > > >> > > Livy
> > > > > >> > > > Docs
> > > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7
> <-
> > > Add
> > > > > Livy
> > > > > >> > Docs
> > > > > >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and
> > merge
> > > > it
> > > > > >> after
> > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > >> > > > release)
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is
> complete,
> > > the
> > > > > >> > > remaining
> > > > > >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the
> > next
> > > > > >> release.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > >> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > >> > > > United States
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao
> ---07/31/2017
> > > > > 07:12:11
> > > > > >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related
> > > works
> > > > > >> > y]Saisai
> > > > > >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please
> > list
> > > > the
> > > > > >> JIRAs
> > > > > >> > > for
> > > > > >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related
> works
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Thanks
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll
> change
> > my
> > > > > vote
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> > a
> > > > > >> > > +1
> > > > > >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth"
> > > ---07/28/2017
> > > > > >> > 01:01:16
> > > > > >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a
> release
> > > > > >> soon,]"Alex
> > > > > >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I
> > > think
> > > > > we
> > > > > >> > > should
> > > > > >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should
> wait
> > > > until
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> soon,
> > > but
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > >> > not
> > > > > >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and
> Documentation
> > > are
> > > > > >> > finished
> > > > > >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> > > > > browse/LIVY-87
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > and
> > > > > >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384
> > >).
> > > If
> > > > > >> others
> > > > > >> > > are
> > > > > >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete
> then
> > > I'll
> > > > > be
> > > > > >> > okay
> > > > > >> > > as
> > > > > >> > > > > well.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the
> > > first
> > > > > >> apache
> > > > > >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > 于2017年7月28日周五
> > > > > >> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> > 下午3:42写道：
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to
> > > Apache,
> > > > I
> > > > > >> think
> > > > > >> > > it
> > > > > >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based
> on
> > > the
> > > > > >> current
> > > > > >> > > > code.
> > > > > >> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >> > > > > > Saisai
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Marcelo
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
The top level distribution (e.g. tar.gz should have a proper LICENSE and
NOTES) and it should reflect the included dependencies LICENSE and NOTES.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luciano, should we include all the third jar license in a file in binary
> release? I already add this as DEPENDENCIES file in each Livy jars
> META-INF, is it enough?
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There is also a simpler script for creating a release at bahir, it was
> > inspired by the Spark one.
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in
> Spark, I
> > > think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first
> release
> > I
> > > would like to do each step in person.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be
> reused
> > > > / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation proposal,
> > > > if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the licenses
> > > > there.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <
> luckbr1975@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> > > > >
> > > > > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and
> > it's
> > > > > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> > > > trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> > > > >
> > > > > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not
> include
> > > any
> > > > > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in
> > the
> > > > > root of git today.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <
> sai.sai.shao@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Team,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> > > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > > > >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > > > >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/),
> would
> > > you
> > > > >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your
> > help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> Saisai
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit
> a
> > > snag
> > > > >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us
> after.
> > > He
> > > > >> told
> > > > >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully
> > completed a
> > > > test
> > > > >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > >> > Software Engineer
> > > > >> > Spark Technology Center
> > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > 505 Howard Street
> > > > >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > >> > United States
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017
> > 07:22:50
> > > > >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence
> I
> > > > t]Bikas
> > > > >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked
> > like
> > > > bug
> > > > >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hi,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought
> > 0.4
> > > > >> could
> > > > >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so
> > > users
> > > > >> can
> > > > >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help
> > > make
> > > > bug
> > > > >> > fix releases available.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process?
> If
> > > > not, I
> > > > >> > can follow up on that.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Bikas
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ________________________________
> > > > >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > > > >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for
> > > Apache.
> > > > >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too
> time-consuming
> > > and
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> > so necessary.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> ajbozart@us.ibm.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > > >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > > >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what
> > you
> > > > mean
> > > > >> by
> > > > >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some
> of
> > > the
> > > > >> work
> > > > >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you
> > > > would've
> > > > >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are
> > okay
> > > > with
> > > > >> > how
> > > > >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the
> > first
> > > > >> Apache
> > > > >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> > > > 0.3.1-incubating
> > > > >> or
> > > > >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6
> > month
> > > > >> > cadence
> > > > >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine
> > > > moving
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > a
> > > > >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > >> > > Software Engineer
> > > > >> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > >> > > United States
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017
> > > 12:56:59
> > > > >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > > > >> bearing]Bikas
> > > > >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have
> > been
> > > > to
> > > > >> not
> > > > >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > > >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing
> first
> > > > release
> > > > >> > so
> > > > >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache
> > > > release.
> > > > >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively
> > independent
> > > > >> > feature
> > > > >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to
> > > > include
> > > > >> > that
> > > > >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives
> > > users
> > > > an
> > > > >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And
> > > doing
> > > > >> core
> > > > >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of
> > release
> > > > >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release
> cadence
> > > such
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the
> > features
> > > > are
> > > > >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come
> out
> > > > when
> > > > >> > major
> > > > >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based
> > release
> > > > >> > cadence
> > > > >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes
> > > available
> > > > >> in a
> > > > >> > > released form for end users.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Bikas
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > > >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > > >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first
> > Apache
> > > > >> > release.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on
> > the
> > > > >> > website
> > > > >> > > > repo:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI
> > Log
> > > > Page
> > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability
> > to
> > > > build
> > > > >> > > Livy
> > > > >> > > > Docs
> > > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <-
> > Add
> > > > Livy
> > > > >> > Docs
> > > > >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and
> merge
> > > it
> > > > >> after
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > > release)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete,
> > the
> > > > >> > > remaining
> > > > >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the
> next
> > > > >> release.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > >> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > >> > > > United States
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017
> > > > 07:12:11
> > > > >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related
> > works
> > > > >> > y]Saisai
> > > > >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please
> list
> > > the
> > > > >> JIRAs
> > > > >> > > for
> > > > >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change
> my
> > > > vote
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > a
> > > > >> > > +1
> > > > >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth"
> > ---07/28/2017
> > > > >> > 01:01:16
> > > > >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> > > > >> soon,]"Alex
> > > > >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I
> > think
> > > > we
> > > > >> > > should
> > > > >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait
> > > until
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,
> > but
> > > > I'm
> > > > >> > not
> > > > >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation
> > are
> > > > >> > finished
> > > > >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> > > > browse/LIVY-87
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > and
> > > > >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384
> >).
> > If
> > > > >> others
> > > > >> > > are
> > > > >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then
> > I'll
> > > > be
> > > > >> > okay
> > > > >> > > as
> > > > >> > > > > well.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > >> > > > > United States
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the
> > first
> > > > >> apache
> > > > >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> 于2017年7月28日周五
> > > > >> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to
> > Apache,
> > > I
> > > > >> think
> > > > >> > > it
> > > > >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on
> > the
> > > > >> current
> > > > >> > > > code.
> > > > >> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > >> > > > > > Saisai
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Marcelo
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Luciano, should we include all the third jar license in a file in binary
release? I already add this as DEPENDENCIES file in each Livy jars
META-INF, is it enough?
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> There is also a simpler script for creating a release at bahir, it was
> inspired by the Spark one.
>
> https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in Spark, I
> > think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first release
> I
> > would like to do each step in person.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be reused
> > > / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
> > >
> > > I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation proposal,
> > > if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the licenses
> > > there.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> > > >
> > > > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> > > >
> > > > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and
> it's
> > > > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> > > trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> > > >
> > > > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include
> > any
> > > > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in
> the
> > > > root of git today.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Team,
> > > >>
> > > >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > > >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > > >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would
> > you
> > > >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your
> help.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> Saisai
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a
> > snag
> > > >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after.
> > He
> > > >> told
> > > >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully
> completed a
> > > test
> > > >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > >> > Software Engineer
> > > >> > Spark Technology Center
> > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 505 Howard Street
> > > >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > >> > United States
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017
> 07:22:50
> > > >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> > > t]Bikas
> > > >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked
> like
> > > bug
> > > >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > ------------------------------
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought
> 0.4
> > > >> could
> > > >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so
> > users
> > > >> can
> > > >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help
> > make
> > > bug
> > > >> > fix releases available.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If
> > > not, I
> > > >> > can follow up on that.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bikas
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ________________________________
> > > >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > > >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> >
> > > >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for
> > Apache.
> > > >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming
> > and
> > > >> not
> > > >> > so necessary.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <ajbozart@us.ibm.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what
> you
> > > mean
> > > >> by
> > > >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of
> > the
> > > >> work
> > > >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you
> > > would've
> > > >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are
> okay
> > > with
> > > >> > how
> > > >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the
> first
> > > >> Apache
> > > >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> > > 0.3.1-incubating
> > > >> or
> > > >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6
> month
> > > >> > cadence
> > > >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine
> > > moving
> > > >> to
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > >> > > Software Engineer
> > > >> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > >> > > United States
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017
> > 12:56:59
> > > >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > > >> bearing]Bikas
> > > >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have
> been
> > > to
> > > >> not
> > > >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> > dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first
> > > release
> > > >> > so
> > > >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache
> > > release.
> > > >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively
> independent
> > > >> > feature
> > > >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to
> > > include
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives
> > users
> > > an
> > > >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And
> > doing
> > > >> core
> > > >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of
> release
> > > >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence
> > such
> > > >> that
> > > >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the
> features
> > > are
> > > >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out
> > > when
> > > >> > major
> > > >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based
> release
> > > >> > cadence
> > > >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes
> > available
> > > >> in a
> > > >> > > released form for end users.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Bikas
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first
> Apache
> > > >> > release.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on
> the
> > > >> > website
> > > >> > > > repo:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI
> Log
> > > Page
> > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability
> to
> > > build
> > > >> > > Livy
> > > >> > > > Docs
> > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <-
> Add
> > > Livy
> > > >> > Docs
> > > >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge
> > it
> > > >> after
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > release)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete,
> the
> > > >> > > remaining
> > > >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> > > >> release.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > >> > > > Software Engineer
> > > >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > >> > > > United States
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017
> > > 07:12:11
> > > >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related
> works
> > > >> > y]Saisai
> > > >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list
> > the
> > > >> JIRAs
> > > >> > > for
> > > >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> you
> > > want
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my
> > > vote
> > > >> to
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > > +1
> > > >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > >> > > > > United States
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth"
> ---07/28/2017
> > > >> > 01:01:16
> > > >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> > > >> soon,]"Alex
> > > >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I
> think
> > > we
> > > >> > > should
> > > >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait
> > until
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,
> but
> > > I'm
> > > >> > not
> > > >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation
> are
> > > >> > finished
> > > >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> > > browse/LIVY-87
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>).
> If
> > > >> others
> > > >> > > are
> > > >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then
> I'll
> > > be
> > > >> > okay
> > > >> > > as
> > > >> > > > > well.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> > https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > >> > > > > United States
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the
> first
> > > >> apache
> > > >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> > > >> 下午3:42写道：
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to
> Apache,
> > I
> > > >> think
> > > >> > > it
> > > >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on
> the
> > > >> current
> > > >> > > > code.
> > > >> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > > >> > > > > > Saisai
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Luciano Resende
> > > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marcelo
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
There is also a simpler script for creating a release at bahir, it was
inspired by the Spark one.
https://github.com/apache/bahir/blob/master/dev/release-build.sh
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in Spark, I
> think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first release I
> would like to do each step in person.
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be reused
> > / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
> >
> > I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation proposal,
> > if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the licenses
> > there.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> > >
> > > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> > >
> > > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and it's
> > > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> > trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> > >
> > > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include
> any
> > > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in the
> > > root of git today.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Team,
> > >>
> > >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> > >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> > >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would
> you
> > >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Saisai
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a
> snag
> > >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after.
> He
> > >> told
> > >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a
> > test
> > >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > >> > Software Engineer
> > >> > Spark Technology Center
> > >> > ------------------------------
> > >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 505 Howard Street
> > >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >> > United States
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> > >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> > t]Bikas
> > >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like
> > bug
> > >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> > >> >
> > >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > ------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
> > >> could
> > >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so
> users
> > >> can
> > >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help
> make
> > bug
> > >> > fix releases available.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If
> > not, I
> > >> > can follow up on that.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Bikas
> > >> >
> > >> > ________________________________
> > >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> >
> > >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for
> Apache.
> > >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming
> and
> > >> not
> > >> > so necessary.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you
> > mean
> > >> by
> > >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of
> the
> > >> work
> > >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you
> > would've
> > >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay
> > with
> > >> > how
> > >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
> > >> Apache
> > >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> > 0.3.1-incubating
> > >> or
> > >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> > >> > cadence
> > >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine
> > moving
> > >> to
> > >> > a
> > >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > >> > > Software Engineer
> > >> > > Spark Technology Center
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 505 Howard Street
> > >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >> > > United States
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017
> 12:56:59
> > >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> > >> bearing]Bikas
> > >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been
> > to
> > >> not
> > >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > >> > >
> > >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <
> dev@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first
> > release
> > >> > so
> > >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache
> > release.
> > >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> > >> > feature
> > >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to
> > include
> > >> > that
> > >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives
> users
> > an
> > >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And
> doing
> > >> core
> > >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence
> such
> > >> that
> > >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the features
> > are
> > >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out
> > when
> > >> > major
> > >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> > >> > cadence
> > >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes
> available
> > >> in a
> > >> > > released form for end users.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Bikas
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ________________________________
> > >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > >
> > >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> > >> > release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> > >> > website
> > >> > > > repo:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log
> > Page
> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to
> > build
> > >> > > Livy
> > >> > > > Docs
> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add
> > Livy
> > >> > Docs
> > >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge
> it
> > >> after
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > release)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > >> > > remaining
> > >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> > >> release.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > >> > > > Software Engineer
> > >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >> > > > United States
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017
> > 07:12:11
> > >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> > >> > y]Saisai
> > >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list
> the
> > >> JIRAs
> > >> > > for
> > >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you
> > want
> > >> to
> > >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> > ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my
> > vote
> > >> to
> > >> > a
> > >> > > +1
> > >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >> > > > > United States
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> > >> > 01:01:16
> > >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> > >> soon,]"Alex
> > >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think
> > we
> > >> > > should
> > >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait
> until
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but
> > I'm
> > >> > not
> > >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> > >> > finished
> > >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> > browse/LIVY-87
> > >> >
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
> > >> others
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll
> > be
> > >> > okay
> > >> > > as
> > >> > > > > well.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > >> > > > > Software Engineer
> > >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <
> https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > >> > > > > United States
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
> > >> apache
> > >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> > >> 下午3:42写道：
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache,
> I
> > >> think
> > >> > > it
> > >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
> > >> current
> > >> > > > code.
> > >> > > > > > What do you think?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks
> > >> > > > > > Saisai
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Luciano Resende
> > > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcelo
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Marcelo for your comments. I checked create_release.sh in Spark, I
think I will adopt this after this first release, for this first release I
would like to do each step in person.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be reused
> / adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
>
> I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation proposal,
> if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the licenses
> there.
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
> >
> > Apache release requires source releases as described below
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
> >
> > Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
> >
> >
> > Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and it's
> > license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/
> trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
> >
> > But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include any
> > dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in the
> > root of git today.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Team,
> >>
> >> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> >> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> >> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
> >> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Saisai
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> >> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
> >> told
> >> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a
> test
> >> > import then we could re-export for him.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > Software Engineer
> >> > Spark Technology Center
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 505 Howard Street
> >> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > United States
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> >> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I
> t]Bikas
> >> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like
> bug
> >> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> >> >
> >> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> >> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> >> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
> >> could
> >> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
> >> can
> >> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make
> bug
> >> > fix releases available.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If
> not, I
> >> > can follow up on that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bikas
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> >> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> >
> >> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> >> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
> >> not
> >> > so necessary.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> >> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> >> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you
> mean
> >> by
> >> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
> >> work
> >> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you
> would've
> >> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay
> with
> >> > how
> >> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
> >> Apache
> >> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as
> 0.3.1-incubating
> >> or
> >> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> >> > >
> >> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> >> > cadence
> >> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine
> moving
> >> to
> >> > a
> >> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > > Software Engineer
> >> > > Spark Technology Center
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 505 Howard Street
> >> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > > United States
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> >> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> >> bearing]Bikas
> >> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been
> to
> >> not
> >> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> >> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> >> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first
> release
> >> > so
> >> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache
> release.
> >> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> >> > feature
> >> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to
> include
> >> > that
> >> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users
> an
> >> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
> >> core
> >> > > feature work in follow up release.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> >> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
> >> that
> >> > > release trains are available for features to out when the features
> are
> >> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out
> when
> >> > major
> >> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> >> > cadence
> >> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available
> >> in a
> >> > > released form for end users.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks!
> >> > >
> >> > > Bikas
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ________________________________
> >> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> >> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > >
> >> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> >> > release.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> >> > website
> >> > > > repo:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log
> Page
> >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to
> build
> >> > > Livy
> >> > > > Docs
> >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add
> Livy
> >> > Docs
> >> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
> >> after
> >> > > the
> >> > > > release)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> >> > > remaining
> >> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> >> release.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > > > Software Engineer
> >> > > > Spark Technology Center
> >> > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 505 Howard Street
> >> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > > > United States
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017
> 07:12:11
> >> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> >> > y]Saisai
> >> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
> >> JIRAs
> >> > > for
> >> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you
> want
> >> to
> >> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <
> ajbozart@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my
> vote
> >> to
> >> > a
> >> > > +1
> >> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > > > > Software Engineer
> >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> >> > > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > > > > United States
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> >> > 01:01:16
> >> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> >> soon,]"Alex
> >> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think
> we
> >> > > should
> >> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but
> I'm
> >> > not
> >> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> >> > finished
> >> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/
> browse/LIVY-87
> >> >
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
> >> others
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll
> be
> >> > okay
> >> > > as
> >> > > > > well.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> >> > > > > Software Engineer
> >> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> >> > > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> >> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> >> > > > > United States
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
> >> apache
> >> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> >> 下午3:42写道：
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >> > > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Team,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
> >> think
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
> >> current
> >> > > > code.
> >> > > > > > What do you think?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks
> >> > > > > > Saisai
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> --
> Marcelo
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Marcelo Vanzin <va...@cloudera.com>.
Spark has a "create_release.sh" script, I wonder if that can be reused
/ adapted for Livy to make this easier in the future.
I tracked all the dependencies' licenses for the incubation proposal,
if that helps; although I didn't have the actual text of the licenses
there.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
>
> Apache release requires source releases as described below
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
>
> Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
>
>
> Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and it's
> license type in the license file (see below as an example)
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
>
> But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include any
> dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in the
> root of git today.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
>> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
>> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
>> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Saisai
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
>> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
>> told
>> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test
>> > import then we could re-export for him.
>> >
>> >
>> > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > Software Engineer
>> > Spark Technology Center
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> >
>> >
>> > 505 Howard Street
>> > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
>> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I t]Bikas
>> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug
>> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
>> >
>> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
>> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
>> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
>> could
>> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
>> can
>> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
>> >
>> >
>> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
>> > fix releases available.
>> >
>> >
>> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
>> > can follow up on that.
>> >
>> >
>> > Bikas
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
>> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> >
>> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
>> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
>> not
>> > so necessary.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
>> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
>> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean
>> by
>> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
>> work
>> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
>> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
>> > how
>> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
>> Apache
>> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating
>> or
>> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
>> > >
>> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
>> > cadence
>> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving
>> to
>> > a
>> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > > Software Engineer
>> > > Spark Technology Center
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 505 Howard Street
>> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > > United States
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
>> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
>> bearing]Bikas
>> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to
>> not
>> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
>> > >
>> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
>> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
>> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
>> > so
>> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
>> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
>> > feature
>> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
>> > that
>> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
>> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
>> core
>> > > feature work in follow up release.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
>> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
>> that
>> > > release trains are available for features to out when the features are
>> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
>> > major
>> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
>> > cadence
>> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available
>> in a
>> > > released form for end users.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > Bikas
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
>> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
>> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > >
>> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
>> > release.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
>> > website
>> > > > repo:
>> > > >
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
>> > > Livy
>> > > > Docs
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
>> > Docs
>> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
>> after
>> > > the
>> > > > release)
>> > > >
>> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
>> > > remaining
>> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
>> release.
>> > > >
>> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > > > Software Engineer
>> > > > Spark Technology Center
>> > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 505 Howard Street
>> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > > > United States
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
>> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
>> > y]Saisai
>> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
>> JIRAs
>> > > for
>> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
>> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > > > ------------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want
>> to
>> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote
>> to
>> > a
>> > > +1
>> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > > > > Software Engineer
>> > > > > Spark Technology Center
>> > > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 505 Howard Street
>> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > > > > United States
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
>> > 01:01:16
>> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
>> soon,]"Alex
>> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
>> > > should
>> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
>> > not
>> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
>> > finished
>> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87
>> >
>> > > and
>> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
>> others
>> > > are
>> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
>> > okay
>> > > as
>> > > > > well.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
>> > > > > Software Engineer
>> > > > > Spark Technology Center
>> > > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
>> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 505 Howard Street
>> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
>> > > > > United States
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
>> apache
>> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
>> 下午3:42写道：
>> > > > >
>> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
>> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>> > > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Team,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
>> think
>> > > it
>> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
>> current
>> > > > code.
>> > > > > > What do you think?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Saisai
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
--
Marcelo
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Just took a quick look at it, and here are some comments:
Apache release requires source releases as described below
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#source-packages
Binary releases can also be provided as a convenience for users:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages
Also, for the binary artifact, I would list each included jar and it's
license type in the license file (see below as an example)
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tuscany/sca-java-2.x/trunk/distribution/all/src/main/release/bin/LICENSE
But note that, the source release artifact, which should not include any
dependency jars, should have the LICENSE file similar to what is in the
root of git today.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/
> v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
> and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
> please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
>
> Best regards,
> Saisai
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> > with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He
> told
> > us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test
> > import then we could re-export for him.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> > PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I t]Bikas
> > Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug
> > fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
> >
> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4
> could
> > be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users
> can
> > gets an Apache release to transition to.
> >
> >
> > Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
> > fix releases available.
> >
> >
> > Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
> > can follow up on that.
> >
> >
> > Bikas
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >
> > From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> > Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and
> not
> > so necessary.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean
> by
> > > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the
> work
> > > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> > > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
> > how
> > > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first
> Apache
> > > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating
> or
> > > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> > >
> > > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> > cadence
> > > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving
> to
> > a
> > > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> > > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature
> bearing]Bikas
> > > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to
> not
> > > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> > >
> > > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
> > so
> > > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> > > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> > feature
> > > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
> > that
> > > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> > > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing
> core
> > > feature work in follow up release.
> > >
> > >
> > > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such
> that
> > > release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> > > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
> > major
> > > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> > cadence
> > > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available
> in a
> > > released form for end users.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Bikas
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > >
> > > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> > release.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> > website
> > > > repo:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> > > Livy
> > > > Docs
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
> > Docs
> > > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it
> after
> > > the
> > > > release)
> > > >
> > > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > > remaining
> > > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next
> release.
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> > y]Saisai
> > > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the
> JIRAs
> > > for
> > > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >
> > > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want
> to
> > > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote
> to
> > a
> > > +1
> > > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > United States
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> > 01:01:16
> > > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release
> soon,]"Alex
> > > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> > > should
> > > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
> > not
> > > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> > finished
> > > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87
> >
> > > and
> > > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If
> others
> > > are
> > > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
> > okay
> > > as
> > > > > well.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > > United States
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first
> apache
> > > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五
> 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I
> think
> > > it
> > > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the
> current
> > > > code.
> > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Saisai
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--
Luciano Resende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Team,
Today I cut a RC1 release based on branch-0.4, here is the link (
https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/releases/tag/v0.4.0-incubating-rc1
and https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/livy/), would you
please help to test and verify. Thanks a lot and appreciate your help.
Best regards,
Saisai
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag
> with the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He told
> us to keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test
> import then we could re-export for him.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50
> PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I t]Bikas
> Saha ---08/04/2017 07:22:50 PM---Hi, Most of those jiras looked like bug
> fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release.
>
> From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could
> be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users can
> gets an Apache release to transition to.
>
>
> Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
> fix releases available.
>
>
> Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
> can follow up on that.
>
>
> Bikas
>
> ________________________________
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>
> From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
> Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and not
> so necessary.
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> > https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> > 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean by
> > not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the work
> > for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> > preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
> how
> > it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first Apache
> > release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating or
> > back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
> >
> > As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
> cadence
> > (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving to
> a
> > 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> > PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing]Bikas
> > Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not
> > do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
> >
> > From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> > To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> > Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
> so
> > that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> > Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
> >
> >
> > However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
> feature
> > that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
> that
> > in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> > incentive to move to the Apache release.
> >
> >
> > +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core
> > feature work in follow up release.
> >
> >
> > On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> > cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that
> > release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> > ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
> major
> > new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
> cadence
> > because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a
> > released form for end users.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Bikas
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> >
> > OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
> release.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
> website
> > > repo:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> > Livy
> > > Docs
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
> Docs
> > > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
> > the
> > > release)
> > >
> > > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> > remaining
> > > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
> y]Saisai
> > > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
> > for
> > > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> > >
> > > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> > > merge in 0.4 release?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to
> a
> > +1
> > > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
> 01:01:16
> > > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> > should
> > > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > > >
> > > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
> not
> > > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
> finished
> > > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> > and
> > > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
> > are
> > > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
> okay
> > as
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > > Spark Technology Center
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 505 Howard Street
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > > United States
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > >
> > > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
> > it
> > > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> > > code.
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Saisai
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
Last comment on the INFRA JIRA seemed to indicate that they hit a snag with
the import over a week ago and he never got back to us after. He told us to
keep using the Cloudera JIRA until he successfully completed a test import
then we could re-export for him.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
Date: 08/04/2017 07:22 PM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi,
Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could
be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users can
gets an Apache release to transition to.
Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug
fix releases available.
Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I
can follow up on that.
Bikas
________________________________
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and not
so necessary.
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean by
> not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the work
> for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with
how
> it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first Apache
> release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating or
> back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
>
> As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month
cadence
> (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving to
a
> 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing]Bikas
> Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not
> do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
>
> From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release
so
> that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
>
>
> However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent
feature
> that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include
that
> in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> incentive to move to the Apache release.
>
>
> +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core
> feature work in follow up release.
>
>
> On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that
> release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when
major
> new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release
cadence
> because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a
> released form for end users.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bikas
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>
> OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache
release.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>
> > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the
website
> > repo:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> Livy
> > Docs
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy
Docs
> > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
> the
> > release)
> >
> > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> remaining
> > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works
y]Saisai
> > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
> for
> > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> > merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to
a
> +1
> > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017
01:01:16
> > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> should
> > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > >
> > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm
not
> > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are
finished
> > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> and
> > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
> are
> > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be
okay
> as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午
3:42写道：
> > >
> > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > >
> > >
> > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写
道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Team,
> > > >
> > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
> it
> > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> > code.
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Saisai
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Most of those jiras looked like bug fixes to me. Hence I thought 0.4 could be a bug fix release. But I am ok releasing the current state so users can gets an Apache release to transition to.
Given that its still a new project, a shorter cadence would help make bug fix releases available.
Btw, does anyone know whats holding up the Apache jira process? If not, I can follow up on that.
Bikas
________________________________
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:31:10 PM
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and not
so necessary.
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean by
> not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the work
> for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with how
> it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first Apache
> release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating or
> back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
>
> As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month cadence
> (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving to a
> 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing]Bikas
> Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not
> do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
>
> From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release so
> that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
>
>
> However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent feature
> that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include that
> in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> incentive to move to the Apache release.
>
>
> +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core
> feature work in follow up release.
>
>
> On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that
> release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when major
> new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release cadence
> because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a
> released form for end users.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bikas
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>
> OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> > repo:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> Livy
> > Docs
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
> > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
> the
> > release)
> >
> > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> remaining
> > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
> > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
> for
> > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> > merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
> +1
> > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> should
> > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > >
> > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> and
> > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
> are
> > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
> as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > >
> > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > >
> > >
> > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Team,
> > > >
> > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
> it
> > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> > code.
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Saisai
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
From my side 0.4 might be a feasible choice to release as for Apache.
Reverting all the features and release 0.3.1 is too time-consuming and not
so necessary.
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> @Bikas The list of JIRAs fixed in 0.4 is 50 long (
> https://issues.cloudera.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%
> 20LIVY%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%200.4) so I'm wondering what you mean by
> not including feature work. Are you suggesting we revert some of the work
> for this release and the re-merge it later, or just that you would've
> preferred it that was released without new features, but are okay with how
> it is anyway? If you're worried about adding features in the first Apache
> release should we also look at re-releasing 0.3.0 as 0.3.1-incubating or
> back support, personally I think it's not worth it.
>
> As for release cadence, so far we've seemed to shoot for a 6 month cadence
> (was longer this time with the move to Apache) but I'd be fine moving to a
> 4 month cadence. I also prefer a time based release.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Bikas Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59
> PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing]Bikas
> Saha ---08/03/2017 12:56:59 PM---Hi, My preference would have been to not
> do a feature bearing first release so that users could safe
>
> From: Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>
> To: "dev@livy.incubator.apache.org" <de...@livy.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: 08/03/2017 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release so
> that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release.
> Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
>
>
> However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent feature
> that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include that
> in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an
> incentive to move to the Apache release.
>
>
> +1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core
> feature work in follow up release.
>
>
> On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release
> cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that
> release trains are available for features to out when the features are
> ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when major
> new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release cadence
> because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a
> released form for end users.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bikas
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
>
> OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> > repo:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build
> Livy
> > Docs
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
> > to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after
> the
> > release)
> >
> > Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the
> remaining
> > UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> > PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
> > Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs
> for
> > UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> > merge in 0.4 release?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a
> +1
> > > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> > > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we
> should
> > > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> > >
> > > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> > > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> > > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87>
> and
> > > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others
> are
> > > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay
> as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > *Alex Bozarth*
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Spark Technology Center
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> > >
> > >
> > > 505 Howard Street
> > > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > > United States
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > >
> > > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for making the first apache release.
> > >
> > >
> > > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Team,
> > > >
> > > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think
> it
> > > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> > code.
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Saisai
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org>.
Hi,
My preference would have been to not do a feature bearing first release so that users could safely and painlessly migrate to the Apache release. Adding features increases the risk of regressions etc.
However it seems like the web UI would be a relatively independent feature that would not affect the core stability. So it may be fine to include that in the first release as a new feature. In some ways, it gives users an incentive to move to the Apache release.
+1 for getting the first release out as soon as feasible. And doing core feature work in follow up release.
On this note, it would be good to consider the question of release cadence. Should we move to a 3 month or 4 month release cadence such that release trains are available for features to out when the features are ready. Or should do feature releases such that releases come out when major new functionality has added. My preference is a time based release cadence because it provides regular bug and security related fixes available in a released form for end users.
Thanks!
Bikas
________________________________
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 8:34:03 PM
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> repo:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build Livy
> Docs
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after the
> release)
>
> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the remaining
> UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for
> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> merge in 0.4 release?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a +1
> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should
> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> >
> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others are
> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay as
> > well.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >
> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for making the first apache release.
> >
> >
> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> code.
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Saisai
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
OK, thanks! Let's get this merged then prepare to the first Apache release.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
> repo:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build Livy
> Docs
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs
> to Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after the
> release)
>
> Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the remaining
> UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Saisai Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11
> PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works y]Saisai
> Shao ---07/31/2017 07:12:11 PM---Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for
> UI related works you want to merge in 0.4 release?
>
> From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
> merge in 0.4 release?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a +1
> > with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
> >
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> > PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> > Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should
> > get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
> >
> > From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> > sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> > (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
> > *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others are
> > fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay as
> > well.
> >
> > *Alex Bozarth*
> > Software Engineer
> > Spark Technology Center
> > ------------------------------
> > *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> > *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
> >
> >
> > 505 Howard Street
> > San Francisco, CA 94105
> > United States
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> > release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >
> > From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for making the first apache release.
> >
> >
> > Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> > > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
> code.
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Saisai
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
There's two open PRs on the livy repo with a follow-up PR on the website
repo:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/25 <- Web UI Log Page
https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy/pull/26 <- Ability to build Livy
Docs
https://github.com/apache/incubator-livy-website/pull/7 <- Add Livy Docs to
Website (it may actually be better to update this and merge it after the
release)
Once the Log Page PR is merged the basic Web UI is complete, the remaining
UI JIRAs are feature adds and tests that can come in the next release.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 07/31/2017 07:12 PM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
merge in 0.4 release?
Thanks
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a +1
> with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should
> get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
>
> From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
> *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others are
> fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay as
> well.
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42
写道：
>
> From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> +1 for making the first apache release.
>
>
> Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current
code.
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Saisai
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Alex, can you please list the JIRAs for UI related works you want to
merge in 0.4 release?
Thanks
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a +1
> with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
>
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for "Alex Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16
> PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon,]"Alex
> Bozarth" ---07/28/2017 01:01:16 PM---I'm a +0 on this, I think we should
> get in a release soon, but I'm not sure if we should wait until
>
> From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not
> sure if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished
> (tracking in *LIVY-87* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-87> and
> *LIVY-384* <https://issues.cloudera.org/browse/LIVY-384>). If others are
> fine releasing with these feature partially complete then I'll be okay as
> well.
>
> *Alex Bozarth*
> Software Engineer
> Spark Technology Center
> ------------------------------
> *E-mail:* *ajbozart@us.ibm.com* <aj...@us.ibm.com>
> *GitHub: **github.com/ajbozarth* <https://github.com/ajbozarth>
>
>
> 505 Howard Street
> San Francisco, CA 94105
> United States
>
>
>
> Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
> release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>
> From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
> Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
> Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> +1 for making the first apache release.
>
>
> Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
>
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> > would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current code.
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Saisai
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Alex Bozarth <aj...@us.ibm.com>.
After some tweaking and opening of PRs today, I'll change my vote to a +1
with the inclusion of my currently open PRs.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
From: "Alex Bozarth" <aj...@us.ibm.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 07/28/2017 01:01 PM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
I'm a +0 on this, I think we should get in a release soon, but I'm not sure
if we should wait until the Web UI and Documentation are finished (tracking
in LIVY-87 and LIVY-384). If others are fine releasing with these feature
partially complete then I'll be okay as well.
Alex Bozarth
Software Engineer
Spark Technology Center
E-mail: ajbozart@us.ibm.com
GitHub: github.com/ajbozarth
505 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
United States
Jeff Zhang ---07/28/2017 01:12:24 AM---+1 for making the first apache
release. Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写
道：
From: Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>
To: dev@livy.incubator.apache.org
Date: 07/28/2017 01:12 AM
Subject: Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
+1 for making the first apache release.
Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> Hi Team,
>
> We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current code.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Saisai
>
Re: To release a first Apache version Livy
Posted by Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>.
+1 for making the first apache release.
Saisai Shao <sa...@gmail.com>于2017年7月28日周五 下午3:42写道：
> Hi Team,
>
> We have already done most of the migration works to Apache, I think it
> would be better to have a first Apache release based on the current code.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Saisai
>