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Posted to dev@ibatis.apache.org by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> on 2005/01/29 22:38:05 UTC
RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
I'll get a dump from WUSH.NET, Noel. Thanks for following up.
While we've been committing to an offsite repository, all the actual work has been done within the ASF infrastructure. Development decisions are made on the ASF dev list, users are supported on the ASF user lists, issues are resolved through the ASF JIRA installation, and the project resources are made public through the ASF website. This has all been true for either weeks or months now. I've even been forwarding commit logs from the offsite repository to our commit list.
Since the iBATIS project is ~so~ very active, we've held off on moving the repository until last. But, I think you would agree, the real work of an ASF project is how it interacts with its Community. The iBATIS Community is alive and kicking in the ASF infrastructure and has been for some time now. :)
-Ted.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:24:12 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Ted,
>
>>> iBATIS is an incubator project with an external Subversion
>>> repository that is now ready for import.
>>>
>>> The SVN dumpfile is available at
>>> www.apache.org/~husted/ibatisnet1.tar.gz
>>>
> I went to load it into the test repository, but what I see appears
> to be a tar of your SVN database, not a dump. Please check. Also,
> does that include both your SVN and imported CVS repositories, or
> just the former?
>
> As for graduation, although it seems that you've been beset by
> infrastructure overload, I think you need to actually work in the
> ASF infrastructure before graduating. I expect that you agree. :-)
>
> --- Noel
RE: iBATIS SVN import done? (was: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...)
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Agreed. Unfortunately, I was entirely off-line at the same time, and your message was stuck in the moderation queue. My intent was to explain to the team why there was a lag.
It would be my strong suggestion that we try to funnel all infrastructure tasks, especially those for the incubator, through JIRA. Things tend to get lost in email threads. (The case in point being the list of committers which was attached to the original ticket.) I only resorted to email to bring attention to the JIRA ticket.
-Ted.
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:38:51 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>�Ted,
>
>�There is a reason why I said:
>
>>�Right now, you are the only one with karma. �Anyone with
>>�sufficient karma can make the adjustment to the ACL.
>>
>
>�in my e-mail on the 7th. �I was entirely off-line for about half of
>�last week, and effectively off-line for most of it. �This coming
>�week will be marginally better, perhaps. �I am not even remotely
>�the only person who could have added the list of names to the ACL
>�for the repository.
>
>�In any event, I've updated the ACL to match INFRA-186.
>
>�--- Noel
>
>
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RE: iBATIS SVN import done? (was: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...)
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Ted,
There is a reason why I said:
> Right now, you are the only one with karma. Anyone with sufficient
> karma can make the adjustment to the ACL.
in my e-mail on the 7th. I was entirely off-line for about half of last
week, and effectively off-line for most of it. This coming week will be
marginally better, perhaps. I am not even remotely the only person who
could have added the list of names to the ACL for the repository.
In any event, I've updated the ACL to match INFRA-186.
--- Noel
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Re: iBATIS SVN import done? (was: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...)
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Sorry, Clinton. I've been out of town this week and couldn't get to my email. Noel sent a message to the dev@ list, but it was stuck in the moderation queue.
Noel was asking about the list of committers. I had posted the list on the original JIRA ticket, and thought everything was handled, but the list was overlooked.
I probably should have coughed up the extra $10 for internet access at the hotel :(
-Ted.
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:02:59 -0700, Clinton Begin wrote:
>�Okay, we can no longer live without our SVN repository.
>
>�Is it going to be ready soon?
>
>�Cheers,
>�Clinton
>
>
>�On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:33:41 -0700, Clinton Begin
>�<cl...@gmail.com>�wrote:
>>�Hi Noel,
>>
>>�I just noticed that iBATIS is in the production incubator SVN
>>�tree. Does this mean it's done? �Did I miss an email?
>>
>>�Thanks again for helping us out with this!
>>
>>�Clinton
>>
>>�On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:25:15 +0100, Gilles Bayon
>>�<ib...@gmail.com>�wrote:
>>
>>>�Seems good fot me.
>>>
>>>�+1 to continue
>>>
>>>�On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:49:26 -0700, Clinton Begin
>>>�<cl...@gmail.com>�wrote:
>>>>�Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of
>>>>�the import looks fantastic. �Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto
>>>>�confirm that the .NET module is working as expected, it
>>>>�should all be a go.
>>>>
>>>>�Cheers,
>>>>�Clinton
>>>>
>>>>�On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman
>>>>�<no...@devtech.com>�wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>�Clinton,
>>>>>
>>>>>�I'm sure that Ted has been great. �:-) �Ted had first
>>>>>�posted about migrating the SVN repository on October 28th.
>>>>>�Are you saying that the project wasn't ready to move the
>>>>>�repository at that time?
>>>>>
>>>>>�Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big
>>>>>�decision, it is one that has been made by many others,
>>>>>�e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito, JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces,
>>>>>�SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>�Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the
>>>>>�importance of moving it into the ASF Infrastructure. �At
>>>>>�this point, I need confirmation that the SVN import into
>>>>>�the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it
>>>>>�in the live repository.
>>>>>
>>>>>�--- Noel
>>>
>
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Re: iBATIS SVN import done? (was: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Okay, we can no longer live without our SVN repository.
Is it going to be ready soon?
Cheers,
Clinton
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:33:41 -0700, Clinton Begin
<cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Noel,
>
> I just noticed that iBATIS is in the production incubator SVN tree.
> Does this mean it's done? Did I miss an email?
>
> Thanks again for helping us out with this!
>
> Clinton
>
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:25:15 +0100, Gilles Bayon <ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Seems good fot me.
> >
> > +1 to continue
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:49:26 -0700, Clinton Begin
> > <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
> > > looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
> > > module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Clinton
> > >
> > > On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> > > > Clinton,
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
> > > > the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
> > > > ready to move the repository at that time?
> > > >
> > > > Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
> > > > that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
> > > > JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
> > > > into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
> > > > SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
> > > > the live repository.
> > > >
> > > > --- Noel
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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iBATIS SVN import done? (was: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...)
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Noel,
I just noticed that iBATIS is in the production incubator SVN tree.
Does this mean it's done? Did I miss an email?
Thanks again for helping us out with this!
Clinton
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:25:15 +0100, Gilles Bayon <ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems good fot me.
>
> +1 to continue
>
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:49:26 -0700, Clinton Begin
> <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
> > looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
> > module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> > > Clinton,
> > >
> > > I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
> > > the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
> > > ready to move the repository at that time?
> > >
> > > Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
> > > that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
> > > JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
> > >
> > > Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
> > > into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
> > > SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
> > > the live repository.
> > >
> > > --- Noel
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by roberto <ro...@theaegis.org>.
I don't have access privileges yet, so if it looks good to Gilles/Ted, it
looks good to me!
Roberto
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gilles Bayon [mailto:ibatis.net@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: ibatis-dev@incubator.apache.org; cbegin@ibatis.com
> Subject: Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
>
> Seems good fot me.
>
> +1 to continue
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:49:26 -0700, Clinton Begin
> <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
> > looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
> > module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Gilles Bayon <ib...@gmail.com>.
Seems good fot me.
+1 to continue
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 19:49:26 -0700, Clinton Begin
<cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
> looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
> module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> > Clinton,
> >
> > I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
> > the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
> > ready to move the repository at that time?
> >
> > Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
> > that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
> > JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
> >
> > Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
> > into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
> > SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
> > the live repository.
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
> >
>
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
Cheers,
Clinton
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Clinton,
>
> I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
> the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
> ready to move the repository at that time?
>
> Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
> that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
> JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
>
> Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
> into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
> SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
> the live repository.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Alright, as far as I can tell the Java and site modules of the import
looks fantastic. Once Ted, Gilles or Roberto confirm that the .NET
module is working as expected, it should all be a go.
Cheers,
Clinton
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Clinton,
>
> I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
> the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
> ready to move the repository at that time?
>
> Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
> that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
> JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
>
> Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
> into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
> SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
> the live repository.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
The blue hat should have been a give-away :)
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:30:56 -0700, Clinton Begin wrote:
>�Ummm....you mean my *SON* Cameron. �:-)
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Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Ummm....you mean my *SON* Cameron. :-)
Cameron was a boy's name before that Diaz lady came along. ;-)
Thanks though,
Clinton
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:29:00 -0500, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> The short-story is that the iBATIS committers have been "too busy driving to get gas". ;)
>
> The project was very active when it entered incubation and has stayed active throughout. It was hard to get the committers to stop committing long enough to move the repository. I think the only way the rest of us got Clinton to take any time off at all was the birth of his daugher Cameron on 30 Jan 2005. :) I'm sure sure he's been making *very* good use of the downtime :)
>
> The test SVN repository looks fine to me: +1.
>
> Anyone else want to toss the test a +1 before kickoff?
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Clinton,
> >
> > I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about
> > migrating the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that
> > the project wasn't ready to move the repository at that time?
> >
> > Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision,
> > it is one that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby,
> > Graffito, JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
> >
> > Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of
> > moving it into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need
> > confirmation that the SVN import into the test repository is
> > acceptable, so that I can re-do it in the live repository.
> >
> > --- Noel
>
>
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Ummm....you mean my *SON* Cameron. :-)
Cameron was a boy's name before that Diaz lady came along. ;-)
Thanks though,
Clinton
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:29:00 -0500, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> The short-story is that the iBATIS committers have been "too busy driving to get gas". ;)
>
> The project was very active when it entered incubation and has stayed active throughout. It was hard to get the committers to stop committing long enough to move the repository. I think the only way the rest of us got Clinton to take any time off at all was the birth of his daugher Cameron on 30 Jan 2005. :) I'm sure sure he's been making *very* good use of the downtime :)
>
> The test SVN repository looks fine to me: +1.
>
> Anyone else want to toss the test a +1 before kickoff?
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Clinton,
> >
> > I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about
> > migrating the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that
> > the project wasn't ready to move the repository at that time?
> >
> > Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision,
> > it is one that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby,
> > Graffito, JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
> >
> > Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of
> > moving it into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need
> > confirmation that the SVN import into the test repository is
> > acceptable, so that I can re-do it in the live repository.
> >
> > --- Noel
>
>
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RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
The short-story is that the iBATIS committers have been "too busy driving to get gas". ;)
The project was very active when it entered incubation and has stayed active throughout. It was hard to get the committers to stop committing long enough to move the repository. I think the only way the rest of us got Clinton to take any time off at all was the birth of his daugher Cameron on 30 Jan 2005. :) I'm sure sure he's been making *very* good use of the downtime :)
The test SVN repository looks fine to me: +1.
Anyone else want to toss the test a +1 before kickoff?
-Ted.
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>�Clinton,
>
>�I'm sure that Ted has been great. �:-) �Ted had first posted about
>�migrating the SVN repository on October 28th. �Are you saying that
>�the project wasn't ready to move the repository at that time?
>
>�Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision,
>�it is one that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby,
>�Graffito, JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
>
>�Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of
>�moving it into the ASF Infrastructure. �At this point, I need
>�confirmation that the SVN import into the test repository is
>�acceptable, so that I can re-do it in the live repository.
>
>�--- Noel
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ... [CONFIRMED]
Posted by Gilles Bayon <ib...@gmail.com>.
Seems good for me
-Gilles
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:31:22 -0700, Clinton Begin
<cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Noel,
>
> I've confirmed that the java and site trees work fine in the "live"
> repos. Ted or Gilles will confirm the cs tree.
>
> Cheers,
> Clinton
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:47:42 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> > Ted,
> >
> > Please verify that all is well with the import. And we need the list of
> > committers from you. Right now, you are the only one with karma. Anyone
> > with sufficient karma can make the adjustment to the ACL.
> >
> > --- Noel
> >
> >
>
Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ... [CONFIRMED]
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi Noel,
I've confirmed that the java and site trees work fine in the "live"
repos. Ted or Gilles will confirm the cs tree.
Cheers,
Clinton
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:47:42 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Please verify that all is well with the import. And we need the list of
> committers from you. Right now, you are the only one with karma. Anyone
> with sufficient karma can make the adjustment to the ACL.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ... [CONFIRMED]
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Noel.
The list on the original JIRA ticket is fine.
* http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-186
-Ted.
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:47:42 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>�Ted,
>
>�Please verify that all is well with the import. �And we need the
>�list of committers from you. �Right now, you are the only one with
>�karma. �Anyone with sufficient karma can make the adjustment to the
>�ACL.
>
>�--- Noel
RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ... [CONFIRMED]
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Ted,
Please verify that all is well with the import. And we need the list of
committers from you. Right now, you are the only one with karma. Anyone
with sufficient karma can make the adjustment to the ACL.
--- Noel
RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ... [CONFIRMED]
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>�At this point, I need confirmation that the
>�SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-
>�do it in the live repository.
We now have a quorum of three +1s, and no complaints, so consider it confirmed, Noel. :)
Thanks for stepping up and taking care of this for us.
-Ted.
RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
The short-story is that the iBATIS committers have been "too busy driving to get gas". ;)
The project was very active when it entered incubation and has stayed active throughout. It was hard to get the committers to stop committing long enough to move the repository. I think the only way the rest of us got Clinton to take any time off at all was the birth of his daugher Cameron on 30 Jan 2005. :) I'm sure sure he's been making *very* good use of the downtime :)
The test SVN repository looks fine to me: +1.
Anyone else want to toss the test a +1 before kickoff?
-Ted.
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:24:34 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>�Clinton,
>
>�I'm sure that Ted has been great. �:-) �Ted had first posted about
>�migrating the SVN repository on October 28th. �Are you saying that
>�the project wasn't ready to move the repository at that time?
>
>�Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision,
>�it is one that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby,
>�Graffito, JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
>
>�Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of
>�moving it into the ASF Infrastructure. �At this point, I need
>�confirmation that the SVN import into the test repository is
>�acceptable, so that I can re-do it in the live repository.
>
>�--- Noel
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RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Clinton,
I'm sure that Ted has been great. :-) Ted had first posted about migrating
the SVN repository on October 28th. Are you saying that the project wasn't
ready to move the repository at that time?
Although I do appreciate that moving to the ASF is a big decision, it is one
that has been made by many others, e.g., Beehive, Derby, Graffito,
JackRabbit, LDAPd, MyFaces, SpamAssassin, XMLBeans, etc.
Regardless, that is past now, and we agree on the importance of moving it
into the ASF Infrastructure. At this point, I need confirmation that the
SVN import into the test repository is acceptable, so that I can re-do it in
the live repository.
--- Noel
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Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Thank Noel, for getting this done.
Ted's been a great mentor and did make the point to us a couple of
times. We were in a tight spot with having two completely separate
repositories with different tools. Furthermore, it was by far the
most disruptive part of the move. Ted would have had a hard time
convincing us (especially me) to make such a committment before we had
felt out the Apache incubator and the process.
Moving to Apache is a big decision for an independent OSS project, and
the code is all we have as a community. Thus we had protected it for
the sake of our community, just as Apache will now.
Regardless, we appreciate the criticality of having our code within
the Apache infrastructure and in hindsight should have done it much
sooner, if not first. I just didn't want Ted to take the heat for
that.
Best regards,
Clinton Begin
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:50:58 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Ted,
>
> I've loaded the SVN dump into the test repository, and we can make it live
> as soon as everyone agrees is it OK.
>
> I appreciate your comments, but I am also very much concerned about setting
> a precedent that it is OK to use non-ASF resources for critical
> infrastructure, and it is not. The code repository should have been moved
> months ago, and I wish that you would have pestered more to make sure it
> happened. We also need to improve our ability to establish the necessary
> resources in a timely manner.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 16:38
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: infrastructure@apache.org; ibatis-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
>
> I'll get a dump from WUSH.NET, Noel. Thanks for following up.
>
> While we've been committing to an offsite repository, all the actual work
> has been done within the ASF infrastructure. Development decisions are made
> on the ASF dev list, users are supported on the ASF user lists, issues are
> resolved through the ASF JIRA installation, and the project resources are
> made public through the ASF website. This has all been true for either weeks
> or months now. I've even been forwarding commit logs from the offsite
> repository to our commit list.
>
> Since the iBATIS project is ~so~ very active, we've held off on moving the
> repository until last. But, I think you would agree, the real work of an ASF
> project is how it interacts with its Community. The iBATIS Community is
> alive and kicking in the ASF infrastructure and has been for some time now.
> :)
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:24:12 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Ted,
> >
> >>> iBATIS is an incubator project with an external Subversion
> >>> repository that is now ready for import.
> >>>
> >>> The SVN dumpfile is available at
> >>> www.apache.org/~husted/ibatisnet1.tar.gz
> >>>
> > I went to load it into the test repository, but what I see appears
> > to be a tar of your SVN database, not a dump. Please check. Also,
> > does that include both your SVN and imported CVS repositories, or
> > just the former?
> >
> > As for graduation, although it seems that you've been beset by
> > infrastructure overload, I think you need to actually work in the
> > ASF infrastructure before graduating. I expect that you agree. :-)
> >
> > --- Noel
>
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Re: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by Clinton Begin <cl...@gmail.com>.
Thank Noel, for getting this done.
Ted's been a great mentor and did make the point to us a couple of
times. We were in a tight spot with having two completely separate
repositories with different tools. Furthermore, it was by far the
most disruptive part of the move. Ted would have had a hard time
convincing us (especially me) to make such a committment before we had
felt out the Apache incubator and the process.
Moving to Apache is a big decision for an independent OSS project, and
the code is all we have as a community. Thus we had protected it for
the sake of our community, just as Apache will now.
Regardless, we appreciate the criticality of having our code within
the Apache infrastructure and in hindsight should have done it much
sooner, if not first. I just didn't want Ted to take the heat for
that.
Best regards,
Clinton Begin
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:50:58 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> Ted,
>
> I've loaded the SVN dump into the test repository, and we can make it live
> as soon as everyone agrees is it OK.
>
> I appreciate your comments, but I am also very much concerned about setting
> a precedent that it is OK to use non-ASF resources for critical
> infrastructure, and it is not. The code repository should have been moved
> months ago, and I wish that you would have pestered more to make sure it
> happened. We also need to improve our ability to establish the necessary
> resources in a timely manner.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 16:38
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: infrastructure@apache.org; ibatis-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
>
> I'll get a dump from WUSH.NET, Noel. Thanks for following up.
>
> While we've been committing to an offsite repository, all the actual work
> has been done within the ASF infrastructure. Development decisions are made
> on the ASF dev list, users are supported on the ASF user lists, issues are
> resolved through the ASF JIRA installation, and the project resources are
> made public through the ASF website. This has all been true for either weeks
> or months now. I've even been forwarding commit logs from the offsite
> repository to our commit list.
>
> Since the iBATIS project is ~so~ very active, we've held off on moving the
> repository until last. But, I think you would agree, the real work of an ASF
> project is how it interacts with its Community. The iBATIS Community is
> alive and kicking in the ASF infrastructure and has been for some time now.
> :)
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:24:12 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Ted,
> >
> >>> iBATIS is an incubator project with an external Subversion
> >>> repository that is now ready for import.
> >>>
> >>> The SVN dumpfile is available at
> >>> www.apache.org/~husted/ibatisnet1.tar.gz
> >>>
> > I went to load it into the test repository, but what I see appears
> > to be a tar of your SVN database, not a dump. Please check. Also,
> > does that include both your SVN and imported CVS repositories, or
> > just the former?
> >
> > As for graduation, although it seems that you've been beset by
> > infrastructure overload, I think you need to actually work in the
> > ASF infrastructure before graduating. I expect that you agree. :-)
> >
> > --- Noel
>
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RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Ted,
I've loaded the SVN dump into the test repository, and we can make it live
as soon as everyone agrees is it OK.
I appreciate your comments, but I am also very much concerned about setting
a precedent that it is OK to use non-ASF resources for critical
infrastructure, and it is not. The code repository should have been moved
months ago, and I wish that you would have pestered more to make sure it
happened. We also need to improve our ability to establish the necessary
resources in a timely manner.
--- Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 16:38
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: infrastructure@apache.org; ibatis-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: SVN Import ... Please help us graduate ...
I'll get a dump from WUSH.NET, Noel. Thanks for following up.
While we've been committing to an offsite repository, all the actual work
has been done within the ASF infrastructure. Development decisions are made
on the ASF dev list, users are supported on the ASF user lists, issues are
resolved through the ASF JIRA installation, and the project resources are
made public through the ASF website. This has all been true for either weeks
or months now. I've even been forwarding commit logs from the offsite
repository to our commit list.
Since the iBATIS project is ~so~ very active, we've held off on moving the
repository until last. But, I think you would agree, the real work of an ASF
project is how it interacts with its Community. The iBATIS Community is
alive and kicking in the ASF infrastructure and has been for some time now.
:)
-Ted.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:24:12 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Ted,
>
>>> iBATIS is an incubator project with an external Subversion
>>> repository that is now ready for import.
>>>
>>> The SVN dumpfile is available at
>>> www.apache.org/~husted/ibatisnet1.tar.gz
>>>
> I went to load it into the test repository, but what I see appears
> to be a tar of your SVN database, not a dump. Please check. Also,
> does that include both your SVN and imported CVS repositories, or
> just the former?
>
> As for graduation, although it seems that you've been beset by
> infrastructure overload, I think you need to actually work in the
> ASF infrastructure before graduating. I expect that you agree. :-)
>
> --- Noel
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