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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM> on 2006/11/17 19:18:53 UTC
Fwd: bad metadata in commons-logging 1.1
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Does RAT have enough smarts to do this kind of checking?
Craig
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Steve Loughran <st...@gmail.com>
> Date: November 17, 2006 6:45:18 AM PST
> To: repository@apache.org
> Subject: Re: bad metadata in commons-logging 1.1
> Reply-To: repository@apache.org
>
> On 17/11/06, Carlos Sanchez <ca...@apache.org> wrote:
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-392
>
> You know, its hard to blame the projects here, they create md that
> works for them; its only when stuff ships you discover its flaws. We
> really need a review of all metadata that goes in; partly automated,
> with manual oversight. I imagine a program that has a list of obsolete
> artifacts (junit 3.7, logkit, servletapi 2.3), and flags anything that
> imports them as trouble. It could also flag any non-optional
> dependency on junit/testng at runtime as worthy of attention. Test
> tools are allowed to do it, but for most apps, its a mistake.
>
> sigh,
>
> -steve
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
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Re: bad metadata in commons-logging 1.1
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 11/18/06, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> > Does RAT have enough smarts to do this kind of checking?
>
> RAT is unlikely to be smarter than it's creator ;-)
>
> (JCL 1.1 is one of mine)
>
> what is or is not bad meta-data depends on eye of the beholder (and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
meta-data is bad
Doh!
- robert
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Re: bad metadata in commons-logging 1.1
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 11/17/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> Does RAT have enough smarts to do this kind of checking?
RAT is unlikely to be smarter than it's creator ;-)
(JCL 1.1 is one of mine)
what is or is not bad meta-data depends on eye of the beholder (and
this is the wrong forum for arguments of that kind)
but in general, i believe that automated checking is the way forward
and, yes, automated checks would be possible (whether based on RAT or
a new codebase)
- robert
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