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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> on 2012/01/02 20:36:00 UTC

[BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Hi there,

FYI I've uploaded new "Developer Snapshots" builds, based on rev.
1226179 
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/

"Developer Snapshots" builds install with a different name, not overriding
stable installations.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Mechtilde <oo...@mechtilde.de>.
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Hello Ariel,

thanks for pöubishing your builds.

That builds can be installed as expected. Also for me!

So there is a known sulution for the problem. Please do the same update
at the buildbot.


Kind Regards

Mechtilde




Am 02.01.2012 20:36, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
> Hi there,
> 
> FYI I've uploaded new "Developer Snapshots" builds, based on rev.
> 1226179 
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/
> 
> "Developer Snapshots" builds install with a different name, not overriding
> stable installations.
> 
> 
> Regards

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Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by L'oiseau de mer <oi...@gmail.com>.
Very sorry, maybe i forgot extract the en-US version from AOO build
directory........
But now the dir has been deleted, because my build machine is a old
PC(hard disk space is small)
Maybe next time i build , i will notice the thing.

2012/1/3 Paul Gress <pg...@optonline.net>:
> Hi Ariel,
>
> Thanks for the response.  See below.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/ 2/12 07:44 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>
> There are no Developer Snapshot for Solaris, and you're right, the en-US
> install set is missing. I CC here L'oiseau de mer, who kindly
> contributed the Solaris builds.
>
>
> Thanks for CC'ing him.  If I could find time, I would take a shot a
> compiling a Solaris version, but my chances are slim, as I not a developer,
> but a Mechanical Engineer and putting in 13 hour days recently, including
> working weekends.  I appreciate L'oiseau de mer contribution for Solaris,
> I'm glad somebody took the effort.  At some time in the future I'm sure I
> can contribute some how, if at least testing development releases.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there another location for English versions?
>
> No, there isn't.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Why couldn't all
> versions be on the one download page as was provided when Sun/Oracle
> provided downloads?
>
> These are not official builds, but community contributed. Right now
> Apache OpenOffice has only a buildboot building Linux x86-64 DEB
> packages. When all build machines are set up, there will be official
> version for all supported platforms.
>
>
>
> This sounds very encouraging.  Official builds for all platforms.
>
>
>
>
>
> On the other hand, I didn't place all packages on the same page and
> linked them instead because:
>
> * my internet provider gives very low upload bandwidth (0.68 Mb/s,
>   compared to the 12.30 Mb/s upload bandwidth), uploading the builds
>   I built myself took me 5 hours
>
> * including the Solaris and Mac OS X packages in the download tables on
>   that page would be rather confusing, because all my builds are Developer
>   Snapshots based on the same revision, Solaris builds my be of the same
>   or a close revision, but are not dev builds; and Mac OS X builds are
>   older and no dev builds either.
>
>
>
> Well, I've waited over a year now for some updated release, I suppose I can
> wait longer.
>
>
> Keep up the good work,
>
> Paul

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Paul Gress <pg...@optonline.net>.
Hi Ariel,

Thanks for the response.  See below.




On 01/ 2/12 07:44 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> There are no Developer Snapshot for Solaris, and you're right, the en-US
> install set is missing. I CC here L'oiseau de mer, who kindly
> contributed the Solaris builds.
>

Thanks for CC'ing him.  If I could find time, I would take a shot a compiling a Solaris version, but my chances are slim, as I not a developer, but a Mechanical Engineer and putting in 13 hour days recently, including working weekends.  I appreciate L'oiseau de mer contribution for Solaris, I'm glad somebody took the effort.  At some time in the future I'm sure I can contribute some how, if at least testing development releases.






>> Is there another location for English versions?
> No, there isn't.


Thanks

>> Why couldn't all
>> versions be on the one download page as was provided when Sun/Oracle
>> provided downloads?
> These are not official builds, but community contributed. Right now
> Apache OpenOffice has only a buildboot building Linux x86-64 DEB
> packages. When all build machines are set up, there will be official
> version for all supported platforms.


This sounds very encouraging.  Official builds for all platforms.



>
> On the other hand, I didn't place all packages on the same page and
> linked them instead because:
>
> * my internet provider gives very low upload bandwidth (0.68 Mb/s,
>    compared to the 12.30 Mb/s upload bandwidth), uploading the builds
>    I built myself took me 5 hours
>
> * including the Solaris and Mac OS X packages in the download tables on
>    that page would be rather confusing, because all my builds are Developer
>    Snapshots based on the same revision, Solaris builds my be of the same
>    or a close revision, but are not dev builds; and Mac OS X builds are
>    older and no dev builds either.
>


Well, I've waited over a year now for some updated release, I suppose I can wait longer.


Keep up the good work,

Paul

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by L'oiseau de mer <oi...@gmail.com>.
I have upload the lastest unofficial version in here:(Revision 1227012)
http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1201/download

And this time , i have add en-US version.

But i also want to ask: have anyone start building official AOO
Solaris version in ASF?

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Hi Ariel,

Le 3 janv. 12 à 14:20, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :

> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I'm not sure to understand what you mean here.
>
> older = according to the time stamp, they were uploaded 15-Dec-2011.
>

Yes, I know, but you can believe me, the SVG thing is inside (and  
works well)


> Solaris builds were uploaded 2011/12/31, so I assume their revision  
> is almost the same I used to build.
>
> no dev builds= according to the package name (for example  
> OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg) I assume they are no dev.  
> builds
> ("Developer Snapshots"). Those are named OOo-Dev and install with  
> another name, not overriding the default OOo installation.
>
> Dev builds are built by running
>

Ahh, ok, I see :)



> dmake openofficedev
> dmake ooodevlanguagepack
> dmake sdkoodev


Do you think we really need to provide everything ? I prefered  
provide 3 locales, who represent 75% of the downloads, without  
install any languagepack.

I thought people wanted to test the application first, on recent OS  
like Lion or whatever e.g.


> on instsetoo_native/util/
> By the way, this was broken - at least on Linux and Windows.


Ah ...  :-/

I'm currently very busy with something else, but I'll test what  
happens on the windows side soon (probably somewhere in the week).  
Thanks for your anwser.


Regards,
Eric
-- 
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news






Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Eric,

On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 06:37:33AM +0100, eric b wrote:
> Hi Ariel,
> 
> Le 3 janv. 12 à 01:44, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :
> 
> >* including the Solaris and Mac OS X packages in the download
> >tables on  that page would be rather confusing, because all my
> >builds are Developer
> >  Snapshots based on the same revision,
> 
> 
> FYI, the builds I proposed you (Mac Intel, based on 10.4) in private
> are recent, and include the native SVG native (it is just
> svgreplacement snpashot too)
> 
> 
> >Solaris builds my be of the same or a close revision, but are not
> >dev builds; and Mac OS X builds are older and no dev builds
> >either.
> 
> 
> I'm not sure to understand what you mean here.

older = according to the time stamp, they were uploaded 15-Dec-2011.
Solaris builds were uploaded 2011/12/31, so I assume their revision is
almost the same I used to build.

no dev builds= according to the package name (for example
OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg) I assume they are no dev. builds
("Developer Snapshots"). Those are named OOo-Dev and install with
another name, not overriding the default OOo installation.

Dev builds are built by running


dmake openofficedev
dmake ooodevlanguagepack
dmake sdkoodev


on instsetoo_native/util/
By the way, this was broken - at least on Linux and Windows.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by eric b <er...@free.fr>.
Hi Ariel,

Le 3 janv. 12 à 01:44, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :

> * including the Solaris and Mac OS X packages in the download  
> tables on  that page would be rather confusing, because all my  
> builds are Developer
>   Snapshots based on the same revision,


FYI, the builds I proposed you (Mac Intel, based on 10.4) in private  
are recent, and include the native SVG native (it is just  
svgreplacement snpashot too)


> Solaris builds my be of the same or a close revision, but are not  
> dev builds; and Mac OS X builds are older and no dev builds either.


I'm not sure to understand what you mean here.


Regards,
Eric



-- 
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news






Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Paul,

On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 04:51:29PM -0500, Paul Gress wrote:
> On 01/ 2/12 02:36 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >FYI I've uploaded new "Developer Snapshots" builds, based on rev.
> >1226179 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/
> >
> >"Developer Snapshots" builds install with a different name, not
> >overriding stable installations.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been following development for sometime.  I've noticed now you
> started posing "Developer Snapshot" builds.  Great!
> 
> Now my problem,  I use Solaris X86, specifically Solaris 11 (Oracles
> latest release).  I went to the page linked above, and it directs you
> to secondary link for Solaris X86 builds.  I followed that link, but
> it appears there is no development build for an "English" version.
> The only build appears to be is a "SDK" which doesn't have any
> binary's for which I can run 3.4 dev.

There are no Developer Snapshot for Solaris, and you're right, the en-US
install set is missing. I CC here L'oiseau de mer, who kindly
contributed the Solaris builds.


> Is there another location for English versions?  

No, there isn't.

> Why couldn't all
> versions be on the one download page as was provided when Sun/Oracle
> provided downloads?

These are not official builds, but community contributed. Right now
Apache OpenOffice has only a buildboot building Linux x86-64 DEB
packages. When all build machines are set up, there will be official
version for all supported platforms.

On the other hand, I didn't place all packages on the same page and
linked them instead because:

* my internet provider gives very low upload bandwidth (0.68 Mb/s,
  compared to the 12.30 Mb/s upload bandwidth), uploading the builds
  I built myself took me 5 hours 

* including the Solaris and Mac OS X packages in the download tables on
  that page would be rather confusing, because all my builds are Developer
  Snapshots based on the same revision, Solaris builds my be of the same
  or a close revision, but are not dev builds; and Mac OS X builds are
  older and no dev builds either.



Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Paul Gress <pg...@optonline.net>.
On 01/ 2/12 02:36 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> FYI I've uploaded new "Developer Snapshots" builds, based on rev.
> 1226179
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/
>
> "Developer Snapshots" builds install with a different name, not overriding
> stable installations.
>
>
> Regards


Hi,

I've been following development for sometime.  I've noticed now you started posing "Developer Snapshot" builds.  Great!

Now my problem,  I use Solaris X86, specifically Solaris 11 (Oracles latest release).  I went to the page linked above, and it directs you to secondary link for Solaris X86 builds.  I followed that link, but it appears there is no development build for an "English" version.  The only build appears to be is a "SDK" which doesn't have any binary's for which I can run 3.4 dev.

Is there another location for English versions?  Why couldn't all versions be on the one download page as was provided when Sun/Oracle provided downloads?

Thanks,

Paul

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
I forgot to answer the actual question...

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:10:33AM +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi Ariel,
> 
> just one question for my own builds:
> How do you assure that the developer snapshots are installed with
> another name and do not override stable installations?

You don't need to assure nothing, it's done in
instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst

ca. line 178 you have the settings for the Developer Snapshot:

OpenOffice_Dev
{
...
PRODUCTNAME OOo-dev
BASISROOTNAME OOo-dev
UNIXBASISROOTNAME ooo-dev
...


You have to run the right dmake target, it will end up invoking
make_installer.pl with -p OpenOffice_Dev
See instsetoo_native/util/makefile.mk


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Ariel,

Thanks for the info.

Best regards, Oliver.

On 06.01.2012 19:33, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Oliver,
>
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:10:33AM +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Hi Ariel,
>>
>> just one question for my own builds:
>> How do you assure that the developer snapshots are installed with
>> another name and do not override stable installations?
>
> you have to run, as usual, build --all in instsetoo_native/
> and then, in instsetoo_native/util
>
> dmake openofficedev
> dmake ooodevlanguagepack
> dmake sdkoodev
>
>
> AFAIK this is the only method.
> It has the drawback that you have to build *first* a normal install set
> and *then* a developer snapshot.
>
> To make things easier for me I use the attached patch, and configure
> --with-devsnapshot
>
> As I build language packs too, I added:
>
> ALLTAR : openofficedev sdkoodev_en-US ure_en-US ooodevlanguagepack
>
> you can remove ooodevlanguagepack if you don't need language packs.
> It's a kind of hack, but it works for my needs :)
>
> Regards

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Oliver,

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:10:33AM +0100, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi Ariel,
> 
> just one question for my own builds:
> How do you assure that the developer snapshots are installed with
> another name and do not override stable installations?

you have to run, as usual, build --all in instsetoo_native/
and then, in instsetoo_native/util

dmake openofficedev
dmake ooodevlanguagepack
dmake sdkoodev


AFAIK this is the only method.
It has the drawback that you have to build *first* a normal install set
and *then* a developer snapshot.

To make things easier for me I use the attached patch, and configure
--with-devsnapshot

As I build language packs too, I added:

ALLTAR : openofficedev sdkoodev_en-US ure_en-US ooodevlanguagepack

you can remove ooodevlanguagepack if you don't need language packs.
It's a kind of hack, but it works for my needs :)

Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [BUILD] New unofficial, untested and unstable "Developer Snapshots" builds (rev. 1226179)

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Ariel,

just one question for my own builds:
How do you assure that the developer snapshots are installed with another name 
and do not override stable installations?

Thx for your help,
Oliver.

On 02.01.2012 20:36, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> FYI I've uploaded new "Developer Snapshots" builds, based on rev.
> 1226179
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/
>
> "Developer Snapshots" builds install with a different name, not overriding
> stable installations.
>
>
> Regards