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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@lnd.com> on 2000/06/02 21:57:06 UTC

RE: cvs commit: apache-1.3 STATUS

Second opinion sought - do we update the Win32 .dsp files to 6.0 and
include the same two helper .pl's (with docs in win_compiling.html)
for Apache 1.3.13?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wrowe@locus.apache.org [mailto:wrowe@locus.apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:42 PM
> To: apache-1.3-cvs@apache.org
> Subject: cvs commit: apache-1.3 STATUS
> 
> 
> wrowe       00/06/02 12:41:59
> 
>   Modified:    .        STATUS
>   Log:
>     Anyone who doesn't like the target date is welcome to revise it.
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.821     +24 -27    apache-1.3/STATUS
>   
>   Index: STATUS
>   ===================================================================
>   RCS file: /home/cvs/apache-1.3/STATUS,v
>   retrieving revision 1.820
>   retrieving revision 1.821
>   diff -u -r1.820 -r1.821
>   --- STATUS	2000/06/01 17:52:13	1.820
>   +++ STATUS	2000/06/02 19:41:57	1.821
>   @@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
>      1.3 STATUS:
>   -  Last modified at [$Date: 2000/06/01 17:52:13 $]
>   +  Last modified at [$Date: 2000/06/02 19:41:57 $]
>    
>    Release:
>    
>   -    1.3.13-dev: In development.
>   +    1.3.13-dev: In development - targeted to roll on or 
> after June 9?
>        1.3.12: Tagged and rolled Feb. 23, 2000. Released and
>                announced on the 25th.
>        1.3.11: Tagged and rolled Jan. 19, 2000. Released and
>   @@ -25,8 +25,29 @@
>    
>    RELEASE SHOWSTOPPERS:
>    
>   -    * None at present
>   +    * Add a simple hold console open patch (wait for close or
>   +        the ESC key, with a nice message) if the server died a 
>   +        bad death (non-zero exit code) in console mode.  Add the
>   +        ConsoleHandler to deal with Ctrl+C/Ctrl+Break and, at
>   +        least under NT, shutdown, logoff and window close.
>   +        OtherBill is working on this
>    
>   +    * Assure we haven't drifted too far between httpd.conf-dist
>   +        and httpd.conf-dist-win.
>   +
>   +    * Assure the windows.html and win_compiling.html reflect
>   +        reality, today.
>   +	- running the server without admin
>   +	- how CGIs work (?)
>   +	- short/long name handling (?)
>   +	- better status page on current state of NT for users
>   +        > Basic answer the the last one - 2.0 is coming
>   +
>   +    * Get a CHANGES entry from Mike on the NW commit of 6/1/00
>   +
>   +    * Get the mod_setenvif change in for 1.3.13
>   +        Ken Coar is working on this
>   +
>    RELEASE NON-SHOWSTOPPERS BUT WOULD BE REAL NICE TO WRAP THESE UP:
>    
>        * long pathnames with many components and no AllowOverride None
>   @@ -146,10 +167,6 @@
>    	Message-ID: <37...@Golux.Com>
>    	Status: Ken +1, Dean +1, Randy +1, Lars +0, Jim +1
>    
>   -    * Keith Wannamaker's NT multiple services patch
>   -	Message-ID: <85...@d54mta06.raleigh.ibm.com>
>   -	Status: Bill +1 (on concept), Lars +1 (on concept)
>   -
>        * Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino's [PATCH] IPv6 enable patch
>          
ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/misc/apache-139-v6-19991013a.diff.gz
   	Message-ID: <18...@coconut.itojun.org>,
  @@ -417,14 +434,6 @@
         parent to wait for the child process to become fully active before
         proceeding with CGI I/O processing.
   
  -    * should trap ^C when running not-as-service and do proper shutdown
  -
  -    * proxy module doesn't load on Win95.  Why?  Good question.  PR#1462.
  -      David Whitmarsh <da...@dial.pipex.com> says it's because
  -      you can't dynamically load a DLL that uses declspec(thread).  He
  -      supplied a patch.
  -	MID: <36...@smtp.dial.pipex.com>
  -    
       * chdir() for CGI scripts and mod_include #exec needs to be 
         re-implemented now that CreateProcess is being used.
   
  @@ -460,13 +469,6 @@
   
       * performance
   
  -    * documentation:
  -	- running the server without admin
  -	- how CGIs work
  -	- update README.NT
  -	- short/long name handling
  -	- better status page on current state of NT for users
  -
       * http_main.c hell
   	- split into two files?
   
  @@ -508,11 +510,6 @@
       * mod_include --> exec cgi, exec cmd, etc. don't work right.
         Looks like a code path that isn't run anywhere else that has
         something not quite right...  A PR or two on it.
  -
  -    * signal type handling
  -    	- how to rotate logs from command line?
  -	  (Point people to Andrew Ford's cronolog because it's "better"
  -	   than ours?)
   
       * Currently if you double click on the conf files or the
         log files you get a useless dialog offering the set of all
  
  
  


RE: cvs commit: apache-1.3 STATUS

Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@lnd.com>.
> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gstein@lyra.org]
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 5:14 AM
> 
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > Second opinion sought - do we update the Win32 .dsp files to 6.0 and
> > include the same two helper .pl's (with docs in win_compiling.html)
> > for Apache 1.3.13?
> 
> I'd rather some of the stuff in 1.3 remain as is. If there is 
> no effective benefit to upgrading them, then please leave them 
> untouched.

Benefits:

  * Maintainers/contributors don't have to get dizzy remembering which
    branch we are on, if we need to convert this branch or that, or
    whatnot.

  * The docs are identical for 1.3.13/2.0

  * The conversion pl's remain the same on both platforms.
    (rather than cvstodsp5.pl on 2.0 and cvstodsp6.pl on 1.3.13)

  * The conversion from .dsp 6 -> 5 -> 6 is symetrical

  * The conversion from .dsp 6 -> 5 -> 6 is -not- symetrical.
    Changes commited to the tree will always be twigging the
    !MESSAGE text lines.
    
Drawback:

  * Version 5 will read version 6 without conversion, but not 
    understand the /ZI flag.  Applies to Debugging mode, only.
    This really only affects developers, not admins rolling
    their own release.

Please opin if these issues weigh in favor of either

1) renaming the .pl's in the 1.3.13 helpers folder to cvstodsp6/dsp6tocvs.

or 

2) converting the .dsp's in the 1.3.13 tree to dsp 6 format (via the script).


RE: cvs commit: apache-1.3 STATUS

Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Second opinion sought - do we update the Win32 .dsp files to 6.0 and
> include the same two helper .pl's (with docs in win_compiling.html)
> for Apache 1.3.13?

I'd rather some of the stuff in 1.3 remain as is. If there is no effective
benefit to upgrading them, then please leave them untouched.

Cheers,
-g

-- 
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/