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Posted to dev@pulsar.apache.org by Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com> on 2023/06/04 13:36:50 UTC

Pulsar roadmap

Hi,


Do we have a place we manage future Pulsar roadmap? Big ticket items,
smaller ticket ones?
I mean, I know we have GitHub issues, but that’s a forest.
I was wondering if we have created a way to display those as a roadmap, or
hierarchy?

Thanks,

Asaf

Re: Pulsar roadmap

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
There is no better place to surface various “To dos” than in an email thread with an optional link to a GitHub issue or discussion. Any other place might be hard to find in future years.

Best,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2023, at 8:11 AM, Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Fully understand.
> 
> How about a roadmap that primarily conveys general plans we see and agree
> upon as a community?
> Of course, it wouldn't contain any dates (not even years).
> 
> Maybe we can use that to reflect the "half-ness" / progress bar of certain
> features that were left unfinished?
> 
> Here's an example from stuff I saw in recent years:
> 
> 1. https://prometheus.io/docs/introduction/roadmap/
> 
> 2. As this is brainstorming, there is also an option to do it on the GitHub
> board, but I'm wondering whether it's good or bad.
> https://github.com/thanos-io/thanos/projects/8
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 11:19 AM Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Asaf,
>> 
>> Il Dom 4 Giu 2023, 15:37 Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do we have a place we manage future Pulsar roadmap? Big ticket items,
>>> smaller ticket ones?
>>> I mean, I know we have GitHub issues, but that’s a forest.
>>> I was wondering if we have created a way to display those as a roadmap,
>> or
>>> hierarchy?
>>> 
>> 
>> In my experience with OSS projects in the ASF I have seen a few times
>> tentatives of setting up 'roadmaps'. Every time I have seen failures.
>> 
>> This is because an OSS project in the ASF lives thanks to volunteers and
>> contributions.
>> 
>> There is no central government and you cannot set a roadmap.
>> 
>> When you are in a company with a strict organization you can set deadlines
>> and direction, this cannot happen in OSS.
>> 
>> Many times we see that there are interesting features that are not fully
>> completed.
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, I think that it will be great to have a direction but
>> simply this cannot happen when you only have volunteers.
>> 
>> We have the PIP process and we have our convention and best practices but
>> nobody can predict which features will be added in the mid/long term.
>> 
>> My two cents
>> Enrico
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Asaf
>>> 
>> 


Re: Pulsar roadmap

Posted by Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com>.
Fully understand.

How about a roadmap that primarily conveys general plans we see and agree
upon as a community?
Of course, it wouldn't contain any dates (not even years).

Maybe we can use that to reflect the "half-ness" / progress bar of certain
features that were left unfinished?

Here's an example from stuff I saw in recent years:

1. https://prometheus.io/docs/introduction/roadmap/

2. As this is brainstorming, there is also an option to do it on the GitHub
board, but I'm wondering whether it's good or bad.
https://github.com/thanos-io/thanos/projects/8

WDYT?






On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 11:19 AM Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Asaf,
>
> Il Dom 4 Giu 2023, 15:37 Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Do we have a place we manage future Pulsar roadmap? Big ticket items,
> > smaller ticket ones?
> > I mean, I know we have GitHub issues, but that’s a forest.
> > I was wondering if we have created a way to display those as a roadmap,
> or
> > hierarchy?
> >
>
> In my experience with OSS projects in the ASF I have seen a few times
> tentatives of setting up 'roadmaps'. Every time I have seen failures.
>
> This is because an OSS project in the ASF lives thanks to volunteers and
> contributions.
>
> There is no central government and you cannot set a roadmap.
>
> When you are in a company with a strict organization you can set deadlines
> and direction, this cannot happen in OSS.
>
> Many times we see that there are interesting features that are not fully
> completed.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think that it will be great to have a direction but
> simply this cannot happen when you only have volunteers.
>
> We have the PIP process and we have our convention and best practices but
> nobody can predict which features will be added in the mid/long term.
>
> My two cents
> Enrico
>
>
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Asaf
> >
>

Re: Pulsar roadmap

Posted by Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>.
Asaf,

Il Dom 4 Giu 2023, 15:37 Asaf Mesika <as...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
>
> Do we have a place we manage future Pulsar roadmap? Big ticket items,
> smaller ticket ones?
> I mean, I know we have GitHub issues, but that’s a forest.
> I was wondering if we have created a way to display those as a roadmap, or
> hierarchy?
>

In my experience with OSS projects in the ASF I have seen a few times
tentatives of setting up 'roadmaps'. Every time I have seen failures.

This is because an OSS project in the ASF lives thanks to volunteers and
contributions.

There is no central government and you cannot set a roadmap.

When you are in a company with a strict organization you can set deadlines
and direction, this cannot happen in OSS.

Many times we see that there are interesting features that are not fully
completed.

Don't get me wrong, I think that it will be great to have a direction but
simply this cannot happen when you only have volunteers.

We have the PIP process and we have our convention and best practices but
nobody can predict which features will be added in the mid/long term.

My two cents
Enrico



> Thanks,
>
> Asaf
>