You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@eagle.apache.org by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> on 2016/07/28 19:28:08 UTC
[DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Eagle is making good progress on working in the open, building community, and making releases. In short, I feel that it is following the Apache Way.
Let’s discuss whether Eagle is ready to graduate. Do you feel that you can govern yourself? What tasks remain before graduation? How long will it take to achieve these?
There is a maturity level model [1] that several projects use to assess the readiness to graduate. I think it would be useful if Eagle self-assesses using this model. What do you all think?
Julian
[1] https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
答复: 答复: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Tang Jijun (上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽)" <ta...@yhd.com>.
I suggest put on jira .For example https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-10467
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:55
收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Do you suggest contributor put on design doc in github or jira or even wiki? Most of design doc is on https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Contributing+to+Eagle, but I believe there are still many new design docs missing.
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) < tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> I suggest put some design docs on the github. Then user can know why
> change code.
> Eagel project can refer to other apache project.
> For example Hadoop, when open a jira for big improment, it will attach
> a design file for it.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:33
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> I suggest we show develop branch's build status in Eagle github
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-eagle as develop branch has a lot
> of code changes frequently. And master is pretty stable and we only
> mutate master when a release was made according to Eagle branch convention.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Branching+Convention
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>
> > For develop branch
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > 唐觊隽
> > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >
> >
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:21
> > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > 主题: Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >
> > For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar
> > tools to expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
> >
> > For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch
> > or master branch?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Edward
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> > tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > > Because
> > > 1 Code is not stable.
> > > 2 Project need more unit test.
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > 唐觊隽
> > > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> > >
> > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> > >
> > > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
> > > maturity model first soon.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Edward
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > > >
> > > > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
Do you suggest contributor put on design doc in github or jira or even
wiki? Most of design doc is on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Contributing+to+Eagle, but
I believe there are still many new design docs missing.
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> I suggest put some design docs on the github. Then user can know why
> change code.
> Eagel project can refer to other apache project.
> For example Hadoop, when open a jira for big improment, it will attach a
> design file for it.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:33
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> I suggest we show develop branch's build status in Eagle github
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-eagle as develop branch has a lot of
> code changes frequently. And master is pretty stable and we only mutate
> master when a release was made according to Eagle branch convention.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Branching+Convention
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>
> > For develop branch
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > 唐觊隽
> > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >
> >
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:21
> > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > 主题: Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >
> > For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar
> > tools to expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
> >
> > For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch
> > or master branch?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Edward
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> > tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > > Because
> > > 1 Code is not stable.
> > > 2 Project need more unit test.
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > 唐觊隽
> > > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> > >
> > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> > >
> > > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
> > > maturity model first soon.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Edward
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > > >
> > > > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
答复: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Tang Jijun (上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽)" <ta...@yhd.com>.
I suggest put some design docs on the github. Then user can know why change code.
Eagel project can refer to other apache project.
For example Hadoop, when open a jira for big improment, it will attach a design file for it.
Best Wishes
唐觊隽
Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:33
收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
I suggest we show develop branch's build status in Eagle github https://github.com/apache/incubator-eagle as develop branch has a lot of code changes frequently. And master is pretty stable and we only mutate master when a release was made according to Eagle branch convention.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Branching+Convention
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) < tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> For develop branch
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:21
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar
> tools to expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
>
> For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch
> or master branch?
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > Because
> > 1 Code is not stable.
> > 2 Project need more unit test.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > 唐觊隽
> > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >
> > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
> > maturity model first soon.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Edward
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > >
> > > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: 答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
I suggest we show develop branch's build status in Eagle github
https://github.com/apache/incubator-eagle as develop branch has a lot of
code changes frequently. And master is pretty stable and we only mutate
master when a release was made according to Eagle branch convention.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Branching+Convention
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> For develop branch
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:21
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar tools
> to expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
>
> For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch or
> master branch?
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > Because
> > 1 Code is not stable.
> > 2 Project need more unit test.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > 唐觊隽
> > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> > ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >
> > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> > model first soon.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Edward
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > >
> > > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> >
>
答复: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Tang Jijun (上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽)" <ta...@yhd.com>.
For develop branch
Best Wishes
唐觊隽
Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
发送时间: 2016年7月29日 8:21
收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar tools to expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch or master branch?
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) < tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> Because
> 1 Code is not stable.
> 2 Project need more unit test.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept Floor 4, 295
> ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> model first soon.
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> >
> > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
For unit testing, not sure if Apache infrastructure provides Sonar tools to
expose unit test coverage, so community can improve from that.
For the issue that code is not stable, are you saying develop branch or
master branch?
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> Because
> 1 Code is not stable.
> 2 Project need more unit test.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> model first soon.
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> >
> > Why not discuss with them on this list?
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
>
答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Tang Jijun (上海_技术部_数据平台_唐觊隽)" <ta...@yhd.com>.
Great work! Great advances have been made for Apache Eagle.
I think Apache Eagle will became a great project for community with these improvement.
Best Wishes
唐觊隽
Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Ge, Jing [mailto:jinge@ebay.com]
发送时间: 2016年9月30日 19:50
收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org; Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_数据平台_唐觊隽)
主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Hi Jijun,
Thanks for pointing out where we can improve ourselves. We have been working on that since we got your email. Now:
1. We have CI server which will make sure the code will be stable and build will be successful.
2. We have more than 430 Unit tests.
3. We have published fundamental documentation to let user and developer understand Eagle and will continue working on them a. Development Guide https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Development+Guide
b. Product features introduction https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Development+Guide
c. More information w.r.t. roadmap or technical design, etc. can be found at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle
Speaking of documentation, many thanks for your contribution to the Alert Engine on Spark Streaming https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Alert+Engine+on+Spark+Streaming. We really appreciate it.
Your concerns should be solved. please let us know your thoughts.
Best regards
Jing
On 9/1/16, 1:17 PM, "Michael Wu" <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Security page at http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html is
updated with new content, please review if it conforms to what we expected.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi mentors,
>
> I will update security page content taking the mentioned aspects.
>
> Except for the security part, is there any other gaps that you feel eagle
> has to fill before graduation? Please feel free to point issues out and we
> will do our best to get aligned to what graduation requires. Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I did a quick survey, and it seems that most projects do not have a
>> security team[1], which means that vulnerabilities should be reported to
>> security@apache.org. Of the projects that do, Kafka seems a good model
>> to follow; its security page is simple and clear[2].
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html <
>> http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html>
>>
>> [2] http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html <
>> http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved
>> deep into it.
>> >
>> > Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I
>> would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured
>> vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc.
>> Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be
>> prepared for them after graduation.
>> >
>> > Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected
>> from an ASF standpoint.
>> >
>> > -Taylor
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/security/
>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
>> >
>> >> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confl
>> uence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podli
>> ng+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
>> >>
>> >> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem
>> appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a
>> private channel needed?
>> >>
>> >> Can some other mentors please review?
>> >>
>> >> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The
>> community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws
>> (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair,
>> crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
>> >>
>> >> Julian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once
>> after
>> >>> they are reviewed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Edward
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eagle community,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and
>> comment?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Hao
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>> >>>>> self-assessment at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>> >>>> instructions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and
>> inspects, and
>> >>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think
>> Eagle
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way
>> towards
>> >>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all
>> resolved
>> >>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to
>> work
>> >>>> on
>> >>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>> >>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>> >>>> could
>> >>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>> >>>>> <
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> could be skipped?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or
>> will
>> >>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open
>> source
>> >>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>> >>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations
>> including
>> >>>> but
>> >>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The
>> community
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and
>> talking
>> >>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like
>> Hadoop
>> >>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>> >>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>> >>>>> successfully
>> >>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>> >>>> apache
>> >>>>>> releasing process.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now
>> the
>> >>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>> >>>> Assessment"
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>> >>>> graduation,
>> >>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> - Hao
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <
>> ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms
>> of
>> >>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>> >>>>> issues
>> >>>>>>> are relevant here.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -Taylor
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>> >>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>> >>>>>>>> Because
>> >>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>> >>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>> >>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>> >>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>> >>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>> >>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>> >>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>> >>>> maturity
>> >>>>>>> model first soon.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>>> Edward
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Julian
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Ge, Jing" <ji...@ebay.com>.
Hi Jijun,
Thanks for pointing out where we can improve ourselves. We have been working on that since we got your email. Now:
1. We have CI server which will make sure the code will be stable and build will be successful.
2. We have more than 430 Unit tests.
3. We have published fundamental documentation to let user and developer understand Eagle and will continue working on them
a. Development Guide https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Development+Guide
b. Product features introduction https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Development+Guide
c. More information w.r.t. roadmap or technical design, etc. can be found at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle
Speaking of documentation, many thanks for your contribution to the Alert Engine on Spark Streaming https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Alert+Engine+on+Spark+Streaming. We really appreciate it.
Your concerns should be solved. please let us know your thoughts.
Best regards
Jing
On 9/1/16, 1:17 PM, "Michael Wu" <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Security page at http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html is
updated with new content, please review if it conforms to what we expected.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi mentors,
>
> I will update security page content taking the mentioned aspects.
>
> Except for the security part, is there any other gaps that you feel eagle
> has to fill before graduation? Please feel free to point issues out and we
> will do our best to get aligned to what graduation requires. Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I did a quick survey, and it seems that most projects do not have a
>> security team[1], which means that vulnerabilities should be reported to
>> security@apache.org. Of the projects that do, Kafka seems a good model
>> to follow; its security page is simple and clear[2].
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html <
>> http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html>
>>
>> [2] http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html <
>> http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved
>> deep into it.
>> >
>> > Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I
>> would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured
>> vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc.
>> Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be
>> prepared for them after graduation.
>> >
>> > Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected
>> from an ASF standpoint.
>> >
>> > -Taylor
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/security/
>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
>> >
>> >> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confl
>> uence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podli
>> ng+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
>> >>
>> >> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem
>> appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a
>> private channel needed?
>> >>
>> >> Can some other mentors please review?
>> >>
>> >> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The
>> community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws
>> (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair,
>> crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
>> >>
>> >> Julian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once
>> after
>> >>> they are reviewed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Edward
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eagle community,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and
>> comment?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Hao
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>> >>>>> self-assessment at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>> >>>> instructions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and
>> inspects, and
>> >>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think
>> Eagle
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way
>> towards
>> >>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all
>> resolved
>> >>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to
>> work
>> >>>> on
>> >>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>> >>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>> >>>> could
>> >>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>> >>>>> <
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> could be skipped?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or
>> will
>> >>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open
>> source
>> >>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>> >>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations
>> including
>> >>>> but
>> >>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The
>> community
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and
>> talking
>> >>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like
>> Hadoop
>> >>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>> >>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>> >>>>> successfully
>> >>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>> >>>> apache
>> >>>>>> releasing process.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now
>> the
>> >>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>> >>>> Assessment"
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>> >>>> graduation,
>> >>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> - Hao
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <
>> ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms
>> of
>> >>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>> >>>>> issues
>> >>>>>>> are relevant here.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -Taylor
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>> >>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>> >>>>>>>> Because
>> >>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>> >>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>> >>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>> >>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>> >>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>> >>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>> >>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>> >>>> maturity
>> >>>>>>> model first soon.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>>> Edward
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Julian
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>.
Security page at http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html is
updated with new content, please review if it conforms to what we expected.
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi mentors,
>
> I will update security page content taking the mentioned aspects.
>
> Except for the security part, is there any other gaps that you feel eagle
> has to fill before graduation? Please feel free to point issues out and we
> will do our best to get aligned to what graduation requires. Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I did a quick survey, and it seems that most projects do not have a
>> security team[1], which means that vulnerabilities should be reported to
>> security@apache.org. Of the projects that do, Kafka seems a good model
>> to follow; its security page is simple and clear[2].
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html <
>> http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html>
>>
>> [2] http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html <
>> http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved
>> deep into it.
>> >
>> > Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I
>> would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured
>> vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc.
>> Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be
>> prepared for them after graduation.
>> >
>> > Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected
>> from an ASF standpoint.
>> >
>> > -Taylor
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.apache.org/security/
>> > [2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
>> >
>> >> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confl
>> uence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podli
>> ng+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
>> >>
>> >> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <
>> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem
>> appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a
>> private channel needed?
>> >>
>> >> Can some other mentors please review?
>> >>
>> >> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The
>> community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws
>> (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair,
>> crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
>> >>
>> >> Julian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once
>> after
>> >>> they are reviewed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Edward
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eagle community,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and
>> comment?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Hao
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>> >>>>> self-assessment at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment
>> >>>>> .
>> >>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>> >>>> instructions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and
>> inspects, and
>> >>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think
>> Eagle
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way
>> towards
>> >>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all
>> resolved
>> >>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to
>> work
>> >>>> on
>> >>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>> >>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>> >>>> could
>> >>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>> >>>>> <
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podlin
>> g+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> could be skipped?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or
>> will
>> >>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Michael
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open
>> source
>> >>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>> >>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations
>> including
>> >>>> but
>> >>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The
>> community
>> >>>>> has
>> >>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and
>> talking
>> >>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like
>> Hadoop
>> >>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>> >>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>> >>>>> successfully
>> >>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>> >>>> apache
>> >>>>>> releasing process.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now
>> the
>> >>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>> >>>> Assessment"
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>> >>>> graduation,
>> >>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> - Hao
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <
>> ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms
>> of
>> >>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>> >>>>> issues
>> >>>>>>> are relevant here.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -Taylor
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>> >>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>> >>>>>>>> Because
>> >>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>> >>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>> >>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>> >>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>> >>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>> >>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>> >>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>> >>>> maturity
>> >>>>>>> model first soon.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>>> Edward
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Julian
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi mentors,
I will update security page content taking the mentioned aspects.
Except for the security part, is there any other gaps that you feel eagle
has to fill before graduation? Please feel free to point issues out and we
will do our best to get aligned to what graduation requires. Thanks.
Michael
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I did a quick survey, and it seems that most projects do not have a
> security team[1], which means that vulnerabilities should be reported to
> security@apache.org. Of the projects that do, Kafka seems a good model to
> follow; its security page is simple and clear[2].
>
> Julian
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html <http://www.apache.org/
> security/projects.html>
>
> [2] http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html <
> http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved
> deep into it.
> >
> > Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I
> would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured
> vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc.
> Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be
> prepared for them after graduation.
> >
> > Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected
> from an ASF standpoint.
> >
> > -Taylor
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/security/
> > [2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
> >
> >> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+
> Podling+Maturity+Assessment <https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks
> good.
> >>
> >> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in
> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <http://eagle.incubator.
> apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem appropriate places to report
> security issues, because they are public. Is a private channel needed?
> >>
> >> Can some other mentors please review?
> >>
> >> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The
> community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws
> (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair,
> crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once
> after
> >>> they are reviewed.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Edward
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
> >>>>
> >>>> Eagle community,
> >>>>
> >>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and
> comment?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Hao
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
> >>>>> self-assessment at:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+
> Podling+Maturity+Assessment
> >>>>> .
> >>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
> >>>> instructions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and
> inspects, and
> >>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think
> Eagle
> >>>> is
> >>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way
> towards
> >>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
> >>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to
> work
> >>>> on
> >>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
> >>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
> >>>> could
> >>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+
> Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> could be skipped?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or
> will
> >>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open
> source
> >>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
> >>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including
> >>>> but
> >>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The
> community
> >>>>> has
> >>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and
> talking
> >>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like
> Hadoop
> >>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
> >>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
> >>>>> successfully
> >>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
> >>>> apache
> >>>>>> releasing process.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
> >>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
> >>>> Assessment"
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
> >>>> graduation,
> >>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Hao
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <
> ptgoetz@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
> >>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
> >>>>> issues
> >>>>>>> are relevant here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Taylor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> >>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> >>>>>>>> Because
> >>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
> >>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best Wishes
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
> >>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> >>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
> >>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> >>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> >>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
> >>>> maturity
> >>>>>>> model first soon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> Edward
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Julian
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I did a quick survey, and it seems that most projects do not have a security team[1], which means that vulnerabilities should be reported to security@apache.org. Of the projects that do, Kafka seems a good model to follow; its security page is simple and clear[2].
Julian
[1] http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html <http://www.apache.org/security/projects.html>
[2] http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html <http://kafka.apache.org/project-security.html>
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:29 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved deep into it.
>
> Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc. Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be prepared for them after graduation.
>
> Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected from an ASF standpoint.
>
> -Taylor
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/security/
> [2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
>
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
>>
>> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a private channel needed?
>>
>> Can some other mentors please review?
>>
>> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair, crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once after
>>> they are reviewed.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Edward
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>>>>
>>>> Eagle community,
>>>>
>>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and comment?
>>>>
>>>> - Hao
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>>>>> self-assessment at:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment
>>>>> .
>>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>>>> instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
>>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle
>>>> is
>>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
>>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>>>>>
>>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
>>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work
>>>> on
>>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>>>> could
>>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>>>>>>
>>>>> could be skipped?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
>>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
>>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including
>>>> but
>>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community
>>>>> has
>>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
>>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
>>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>>>>> successfully
>>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>>>> apache
>>>>>> releasing process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
>>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>>>> Assessment"
>>>>> to
>>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>>>> graduation,
>>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Hao
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
>>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>>>>> issues
>>>>>>> are relevant here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Taylor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>>>> maturity
>>>>>>> model first soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
The maturity model assessment looks good to me, though I haven't delved deep into it.
Regarding security issues, since Eagle is a security-related product I would expect there to be a well-defined process/protocol that ensured vulnerability reports were kept private until patched, CVE process, etc. Eagle hasn't had any major security issues during incubation, but should be prepared for them after graduation.
Here [1] [2] are two great resources for understanding what is expected from an ASF standpoint.
-Taylor
[1] http://www.apache.org/security/
[2] http://www.apache.org/security/committers.html
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
>
> Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a private channel needed?
>
> Can some other mentors please review?
>
> I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair, crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
>
> Julian
>
>
>
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once after
>> they are reviewed.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Edward
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>>>
>>> Eagle community,
>>>
>>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and comment?
>>>
>>> - Hao
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>>>> self-assessment at:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment
>>>> .
>>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>>> instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
>>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle
>>> is
>>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
>>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>>>>
>>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
>>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work
>>> on
>>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>>> could
>>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>>>> <
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>>>>>
>>>> could be skipped?
>>>>
>>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
>>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
>>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including
>>> but
>>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community
>>>> has
>>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
>>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
>>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>>>> successfully
>>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>>> apache
>>>>> releasing process.
>>>>>
>>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
>>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>>> Assessment"
>>>> to
>>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>>> graduation,
>>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Hao
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
>>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>>>> issues
>>>>>> are relevant here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Taylor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>>> maturity
>>>>>> model first soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I reviewed https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment> and it looks good.
Only one issue. Regarding QU30: The dev list and JIRA (listed in http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html <http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/sup/index.html>) do not seem appropriate places to report security issues, because they are public. Is a private channel needed?
Can some other mentors please review?
I think the consensus is emerging that Eagle is ready to graduate. The community should start taking steps to graduate, including agreeing bylaws (or deciding that bylaws are not necessary), choosing an initial PMC chair, crafting the resolution for the Board, and starting a vote thread.
Julian
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once after
> they are reviewed.
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>>
>> Eagle community,
>>
>> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and comment?
>>
>> - Hao
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
>>> self-assessment at:
>>>
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment
>>> .
>>> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
>> instructions.
>>>
>>> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
>>> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle
>> is
>>> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
>>> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>>>
>>> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
>>> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work
>> on
>>> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
>>> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
>> could
>>> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
>>> <
>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
>>>>
>>> could be skipped?
>>>
>>> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
>>> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>>>>
>>>> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
>>>> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
>>>> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including
>> but
>>>> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community
>>> has
>>>> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
>>>> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
>>>> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
>>>> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
>>> successfully
>>>> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
>> apache
>>>> releasing process.
>>>>
>>>> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
>>>> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
>> Assessment"
>>> to
>>>> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
>> graduation,
>>>> will be sent out very soon.
>>>>
>>>> - Hao
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
>>>>> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
>>> issues
>>>>> are relevant here.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
>>>>> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
>>>>>> Because
>>>>>> 1 Code is not stable.
>>>>>> 2 Project need more unit test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 唐觊隽
>>>>>> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
>>>>>> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>>>>> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
>>>>>> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
>>>>>> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
>> maturity
>>>>> model first soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
I have commented some assessment points and we can remove that once after
they are reviewed.
Thanks
Edward
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
>
> Eagle community,
>
> could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and comment?
>
> - Hao
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
> > self-assessment at:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment
> > .
> > Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and
> instructions.
> >
> > Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
> > traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle
> is
> > approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
> > it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
> >
> > In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
> > items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work
> on
> > and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
> > because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle,
> could
> > you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
> > <
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
> > >
> > could be skipped?
> >
> > Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
> > make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
> > >
> > > Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
> > > project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
> > > contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including
> but
> > > not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community
> > has
> > > continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
> > > eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
> > > Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
> > > Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
> > successfully
> > > release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following
> apache
> > > releasing process.
> > >
> > > To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
> > > community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity
> Assessment"
> > to
> > > measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before
> graduation,
> > > will be sent out very soon.
> > >
> > > - Hao
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
> > > > growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
> > issues
> > > > are relevant here.
> > > >
> > > > -Taylor
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> > > > tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > > > > Because
> > > > > 1 Code is not stable.
> > > > > 2 Project need more unit test.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > 唐觊隽
> > > > > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> > > > > Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> > > > >
> > > > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > > > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > > > > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > > > > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > > > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through
> maturity
> > > > model first soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Edward
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Julian
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org>.
Thanks Michael for preparing the "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment".
Eagle community,
could you (in particular Mentors & PPMC) please help review and comment?
- Hao
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
> self-assessment at:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment
> .
> Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and instructions.
>
> Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
> traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle is
> approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
> it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
>
> In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
> items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work on
> and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
> because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle, could
> you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40
> >
> could be skipped?
>
> Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
> make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
> >
> > Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
> > project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
> > contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including but
> > not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community
> has
> > continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
> > eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
> > Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
> > Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has
> successfully
> > release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following apache
> > releasing process.
> >
> > To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
> > community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment"
> to
> > measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before graduation,
> > will be sent out very soon.
> >
> > - Hao
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
> > > growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical
> issues
> > > are relevant here.
> > >
> > > -Taylor
> > >
> > > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> > > tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > > > Because
> > > > 1 Code is not stable.
> > > > 2 Project need more unit test.
> > > >
> > > > Best Wishes
> > > >
> > > > 唐觊隽
> > > > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> > > > Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> > > >
> > > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > > > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > > > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> > > model first soon.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Edward
> > > >
> > > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > > >>
> > > >> Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > > >>
> > > >> Julian
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Michael Wu <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi guys,
Following the model Julian cited, we created a wiki page for
self-assessment at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment.
Please take a look at it and make your valuable judgement and instructions.
Overall, according to the aspects that the model values and inspects, and
traverse the results listed in the wiki page, personally, I think Eagle is
approaching the point of graduation, and is facing the right way towards
it. (please correct me if i'm wrong, thanks)
In this assessment wiki page, status "OK" stands for the all resolved
items, status "ON GOING" stands for 2 items that we're striving to work on
and will update. Additionally, there is 1 item marked as "NOT APPLY"
because the "convenient binaries" model seems not fitting for eagle, could
you please verify if it's true and rule RE40
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EAG/Eagle+Podling+Maturity+Assessment#EaglePodlingMaturityAssessment-RE40>
could be skipped?
Any comment and instruction will be appreciated, as all we made or will
make is to keep the project running in the right way. :)
Michael
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
>
> Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
> project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
> contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including but
> not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community has
> continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
> eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
> Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
> Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has successfully
> release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following apache
> releasing process.
>
> To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
> community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment" to
> measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before graduation,
> will be sent out very soon.
>
> - Hao
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
> > growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical issues
> > are relevant here.
> >
> > -Taylor
> >
> > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> > tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > > Because
> > > 1 Code is not stable.
> > > 2 Project need more unit test.
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > 唐觊隽
> > > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> > > Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> > >
> > > -----邮件原件-----
> > > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> > >
> > > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> > model first soon.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Edward
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> > >>
> > >> Why not discuss with them on this list?
> > >>
> > >> Julian
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Hao Chen <ha...@apache.org>.
Thanks very much for bringing up graduation discussion for Eagle.
Eagle community has almost fully understand how to run an open source
project in apache way. Apache Eagle (incubating) is now open to be
contributed and adopted by lots of different organizations including but
not limited to eBay, Paypal, Dataguides, Yihaodian, etc. The community has
continuously been building and expanding itself by sharing and talking
eagle with the word industry in international conferences like Hadoop
Summit, Hadoop Stratus, QCon in San Jose, London, Dublin, Shanghai,
Beijing, etc. and also lots of meetups. And the community has successfully
release v0.3.0, v0.4.0 and is actively preparing v0.5.0 following apache
releasing process.
To make it clear how close is eagle ready to graduate, right now the
community is working on preparing an "Eagle Podling Maturity Assessment" to
measure how mature eagle is and what tasks may remain before graduation,
will be sent out very soon.
- Hao
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <pt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of
> growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical issues
> are relevant here.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <
> tangjijun@yhd.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> > Because
> > 1 Code is not stable.
> > 2 Project need more unit test.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > 唐觊隽
> > Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> > Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
> >
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> > 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> > 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> > 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
> >
> > Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity
> model first soon.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Edward
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
> >>
> >> Why not discuss with them on this list?
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
>
Re: 答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
Graduation is mostly about whether a podling is healthy in terms of growing the community and making releases. I don't think technical issues are relevant here.
-Taylor
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Tang Jijun(上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽) <ta...@yhd.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
> Because
> 1 Code is not stable.
> 2 Project need more unit test.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> 唐觊隽
> Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
> Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
> 收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
>
> Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity model first soon.
>
> Thanks
> Edward
>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>>
>> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
答复: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by "Tang Jijun (上海_技术部_架构部_大数据平台_唐觊隽)" <ta...@yhd.com>.
I don't think eagle is ready to graduate.
Because
1 Code is not stable.
2 Project need more unit test.
Best Wishes
唐觊隽
Jr. Engineer , Architecture - Fundation, Tech Dept
Floor 4, 295 ZUCHONGZHI RD, Zhangjiang, Shanghai (201203)
-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Edward Zhang [mailto:yonzhang2012@apache.org]
发送时间: 2016年7月29日 5:19
收件人: dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org
主题: Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity model first soon.
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > … also want to discuss this with other contributors.
>
> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>
> Julian
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
Yes, we should discuss that on the list, and will go through maturity model
first soon.
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > … also want to discuss this with other
> > contributors.
>
> Why not discuss with them on this list?
>
> Julian
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
> … also want to discuss this with other
> contributors.
Why not discuss with them on this list?
Julian
Re: [DISCUSS] Is Eagle ready to graduate?
Posted by Edward Zhang <yo...@apache.org>.
It is exciting that we can bring up graduation discussion right now :-)
We do learn and improve a lot from discussion with communities. I can do
some evaluation from my side and also want to discuss this with other
contributors.
Thanks
Edward
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Eagle is making good progress on working in the open, building community,
> and making releases. In short, I feel that it is following the Apache Way.
>
> Let’s discuss whether Eagle is ready to graduate. Do you feel that you can
> govern yourself? What tasks remain before graduation? How long will it take
> to achieve these?
>
> There is a maturity level model [1] that several projects use to assess
> the readiness to graduate. I think it would be useful if Eagle
> self-assesses using this model. What do you all think?
>
> Julian
>
> [1]
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html