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Posted to dev@ponymail.apache.org by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> on 2016/05/30 07:06:40 UTC
How about some coffee?
I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
Pony Mail works?
With regards,
Daniel.
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by Ulises <ul...@gmail.com>.
Despite my shallow knowledge of CoffeeScript (and in lieu of my shallow
hate of JavaScript) I'd +1 such motion.
On Mon, 30 May 2016 at 08:06 Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
> Pony Mail works?
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 05/30/2016 09:27 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> +0 As I have never worked with CoffeeScript.
>
> But is this something that we should venture into before the podling is
> completely setup (JIRA, Confluence, etc)? How would we track completeness
> etc?
>
> I would rather go for having a first ASF release based on current
> functionalities before introducing new languages.
It's not a new language as such, but merely a 'higher level' language
compared to JavaScript. It compiles to JavaScript, so from the users'
side of things, nothing changes, only the dev environment would change.
I suppose I could port (i.e. make a coffee version of) one or two files,
and people could see what it's all about?
In my experience, it really makes much of day-to-day JavaScript code
easier to grok and hack on.
With regards,
Daniel.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
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>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Francesco Chicchiricc� <ilgrosso@apache.org
>> wrote:
>
>> On 30/05/2016 09:06, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>>> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
>>> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
>>> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
>>> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
>>> Pony Mail works?
>>>
>>
>> Being not particularly capable with neither, I am +-0 for this change:
>> possibly I am going to learn something new anyway :-)
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> --
>> Francesco Chicchiricc�
>>
>> Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
>> http://www.tirasa.net/
>>
>> Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
>> member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
>> CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
>> http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
>>
>>
>
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 8:00 AM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> I don't think the incubator timeline has any bearing at all on technical
> decisions.
>
Agreed, but....
> On May 30, 2016 3:27 AM, "Pierre Smits" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > +0 As I have never worked with CoffeeScript.
> >
> > But is this something that we should venture into before the podling is
> > completely setup (JIRA, Confluence, etc)? How would we track completeness
> > etc?
> >
> > I would rather go for having a first ASF release based on current
> > functionalities before introducing new languages.
>
This is always a positive sign for a podling. If we can do it, great. If
we cannot, fine.
Anyways, I'm -1 on coffeescript. Its a great idea, but realistically no
one uses it. Would be another entry barrier.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
> > ilgrosso@apache.org
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On 30/05/2016 09:06, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > >
> > >> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!)
> to
> > >> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to
> start
> > >> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
> > >> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
> > >> Pony Mail works?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Being not particularly capable with neither, I am +-0 for this change:
> > > possibly I am going to learn something new anyway :-)
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Francesco Chicchiriccò
> > >
> > > Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
> > > http://www.tirasa.net/
> > >
> > > Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
> > > member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
> > > CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
> > > http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
I don't think the incubator timeline has any bearing at all on technical
decisions.
On May 30, 2016 3:27 AM, "Pierre Smits" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> +0 As I have never worked with CoffeeScript.
>
> But is this something that we should venture into before the podling is
> completely setup (JIRA, Confluence, etc)? How would we track completeness
> etc?
>
> I would rather go for having a first ASF release based on current
> functionalities before introducing new languages.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
> ilgrosso@apache.org
> > wrote:
>
> > On 30/05/2016 09:06, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >
> >> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
> >> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
> >> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
> >> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
> >> Pony Mail works?
> >>
> >
> > Being not particularly capable with neither, I am +-0 for this change:
> > possibly I am going to learn something new anyway :-)
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > --
> > Francesco Chicchiriccò
> >
> > Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
> > http://www.tirasa.net/
> >
> > Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
> > member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
> > CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
> > http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
> >
> >
>
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
+0 As I have never worked with CoffeeScript.
But is this something that we should venture into before the podling is
completely setup (JIRA, Confluence, etc)? How would we track completeness
etc?
I would rather go for having a first ASF release based on current
functionalities before introducing new languages.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services
OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <ilgrosso@apache.org
> wrote:
> On 30/05/2016 09:06, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>
>> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
>> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
>> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
>> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
>> Pony Mail works?
>>
>
> Being not particularly capable with neither, I am +-0 for this change:
> possibly I am going to learn something new anyway :-)
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Francesco Chicchiriccò
>
> Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
> http://www.tirasa.net/
>
> Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
> member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
> CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
> http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
>
>
Re: How about some coffee?
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 30/05/2016 09:06, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> I've been pondering this since I was forcibly introduced (by Ulises!) to
> CoffeeScript and found it to my liking....would it be sensible to start
> porting the JS we have to CoffeeScript and possibly make it just a tad
> more understandable to people not intricately knowledgeable about how
> Pony Mail works?
Being not particularly capable with neither, I am +-0 for this change:
possibly I am going to learn something new anyway :-)
Regards.
--
Francesco Chicchiricc�
Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
http://www.tirasa.net/
Involved at The Apache Software Foundation:
member, Syncope PMC chair, Cocoon PMC, Olingo PMC,
CXF Committer, OpenJPA Committer, PonyMail PPMC
http://home.apache.org/~ilgrosso/