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Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Hi!
I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
print. There are no used copies in ebay neither. Where
can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if it's a
used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
recommend me other books about tomcat performance or
guide me to online resources about this subject ?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by Christopher Williams <cc...@ntlworld.com>.
The book was never published and Wrox have gone bust, I believe.
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> I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
> Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
> print. There are no used copies in ebay neither. Where
> can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if it's a
> used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
> recommend me other books about tomcat performance or
> guide me to online resources about this subject ?
>
> Thanks in advance
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by John Turner <to...@johnturner.com>.
That's why...they're no longer being printed. Anything you see on
shelves or in stores is backstock. Peer Information Services, which
owned Wrox and several other publishing houses (like Friends of Ed)
liquidated in March, 2003.
Apress and Wiley picked up most of the assets....the books that will be
supported will be reprinted using Apress and Wiley covers and get a new
ISBN. A perfect example of this is "Beginning Java Objects" by Jacquie
Barker...it was a very popular Wrox book, it is now available as an
Apress book with a different cover, different typesetting, different
editorial team, etc. The content is the same, and the copyright is
still 2000.
So....if you see a Wrox book at full price, you can probably deal with
the seller to get a discount if one isn't already offered. The sad
thing is, the authors will never see any of that money, so if you really
want to support the authors and encourage similar titles, buy the Apress
or Wiley version instead.
John
Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> John Turner wrote:
>
>>
>> The book was never published. The original publisher (Wrox) went out
>> of business and liquidated assets.
>
>
> Was this recently? Just this past weekend I picked up a Wrox press book
> (Java Data) and it was 50% off. All of their books at Borders were 50% off.
>
Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by "Darryl L. Pierce" <mc...@myrealbox.com>.
John Turner wrote:
>
> The book was never published. The original publisher (Wrox) went out of
> business and liquidated assets.
Was this recently? Just this past weekend I picked up a Wrox press book
(Java Data) and it was 50% off. All of their books at Borders were 50% off.
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RE: article on tomcat performance
Posted by srinath narasimhan <sr...@nuviewinc.com>.
Please post it to the list with a link or how to get it.
Thanks.
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RE: article on tomcat performance
Posted by srinath narasimhan <sr...@nuviewinc.com>.
Please post it to the list with a link or how to get it.
Thanks.
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Re: article on tomcat performance
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Re: article on tomcat performance
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Jan Agermose <ja...@agermose.dk>.
YES
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Jan Agermose <ja...@agermose.dk>.
YES
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> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am
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RE: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Mike Curwen <gb...@gb-im.com>.
As long as you send us all the link to the finished article, I'm sure I
won't mind missing the 'beta'. ;)
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> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
PDF. Then its one document which will look the same everywhere. I prefer not
to use Office documents for cross company transmission since I can't trust
the other party sending me a virus free document. (Even if my security
settings are high)
-Tim
Peter Lin wrote:
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> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
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> peter
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
PDF. Then its one document which will look the same everywhere. I prefer not
to use Office documents for cross company transmission since I can't trust
the other party sending me a virus free document. (Even if my security
settings are high)
-Tim
Peter Lin wrote:
>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
>
Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by engp0510 <en...@nus.edu.sg>.
PDF
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> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or
friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
>
>
>
> Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am
writing a short article based on some of the benchmark results. I should
have a draft done in a week. Anyone interested in reviewing it?
>
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by engp0510 <en...@nus.edu.sg>.
PDF
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: article on tomcat performance
>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or
friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
>
>
>
> Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Jan Agermose <ja...@agermose.dk>.
PDF and/or html - how about hosting? Has Jakarta offered to host - they
really should but I they refuse, please let me know....
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>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or
friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
>
>
>
> Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am
writing a short article based on some of the benchmark results. I should
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>
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Jan Agermose <ja...@agermose.dk>.
PDF and/or html - how about hosting? Has Jakarta offered to host - they
really should but I they refuse, please let me know....
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: article on tomcat performance
>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or
friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
>
>
>
> Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am
writing a short article based on some of the benchmark results. I should
have a draft done in a week. Anyone interested in reviewing it?
>
>
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Eric MacAdie <ek...@yahoo.com>.
--- Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the
> finished article thursday or friday. tim and mike
> were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
> the other reviewers. My question is what format
> would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
Anything other than PDF.
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Eric MacAdie <ek...@yahoo.com>.
--- Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Here is a quick update. I plan to release the
> finished article thursday or friday. tim and mike
> were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for
> the other reviewers. My question is what format
> would people like?
>
> word
> openoffice
> pdf
>
> peter
Anything other than PDF.
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Re: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com>.
Here is a quick update. I plan to release the finished article thursday or friday. tim and mike were kind enough to review it. I'm still waiting for the other reviewers. My question is what format would people like?
word
openoffice
pdf
peter
Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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RE: article on tomcat performance
Posted by Mike Curwen <gb...@gb-im.com>.
As long as you send us all the link to the finished article, I'm sure I
won't mind missing the 'beta'. ;)
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article on tomcat performance
Posted by Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com>.
It looks like the tomcat performance book probably won't happen, so I am writing a short article based on some of the benchmark results. I should have a draft done in a week. Anyone interested in reviewing it?
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by Peter Lin <tc...@yahoo.com>.
If the book never gets out, I plan to write a 30-50
page paper based on the results of our benchmarks and
give it to the TC community. Hopefully it won't go
down the drain, since Remy and I spend over 2 months
doing a ton of benchmarks with all sorts of variations
and tuning options.
peter
--- Remy Maucherat <re...@jboss.org> wrote:
> John Turner wrote:
> > The book was never published. The original
> publisher (Wrox) went out of
> > business and liquidated assets.
> >
> > The rights to the performance handbook (and many
> other former Wrox
> > titles including the security handbook) were
> picked up by Apress. The
> > rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I
> think Wiley is running
> > wrox.com right now.
> >
> > From the conversations I've had with Apress, the
> future of the
> > performance book is undecided, though that could
> change at any moment. I
> > for one think there is a need for such a book, but
> with Tomcat 5 coming
> > out, it might need to be rewritten to address the
> new release.
>
> As the coauthor of the said handbook (which is now
> indeed relatively out
> of date), I am quite pissed at Wrox and APress (I
> still haven't been
> paid a dime despite recurrent claims from APress for
> the past 4 months
> that "they'll be coming back to me within a week").
>
> So a big thank you to these folks for the nice
> support to OSS
> contributors :-D (ok, I'm sarcastic)
>
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@jboss.org>.
John Turner wrote:
> The book was never published. The original publisher (Wrox) went out of
> business and liquidated assets.
>
> The rights to the performance handbook (and many other former Wrox
> titles including the security handbook) were picked up by Apress. The
> rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I think Wiley is running
> wrox.com right now.
>
> From the conversations I've had with Apress, the future of the
> performance book is undecided, though that could change at any moment. I
> for one think there is a need for such a book, but with Tomcat 5 coming
> out, it might need to be rewritten to address the new release.
As the coauthor of the said handbook (which is now indeed relatively out
of date), I am quite pissed at Wrox and APress (I still haven't been
paid a dime despite recurrent claims from APress for the past 4 months
that "they'll be coming back to me within a week").
So a big thank you to these folks for the nice support to OSS
contributors :-D (ok, I'm sarcastic)
--
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by John Turner <to...@johnturner.com>.
Also, while the Wrox side of the business seemed to be thriving, there
were several other publishing "arms" that may not have been doing much
more than soaking up profits with little return. As I said, "Wrox" was
just one of many publishing names used by Peer.
John
John Turner wrote:
>
> Well, I guess we have to be more clear. "Wrox" did not go out of
> business. Peer Information Services did. "Wrox" was just one of many
> names that Peer used to publish materials.
>
> So, while there were lots of titles and lots of "great" Wrox books, that
> is separate from whether the company called Peer Information Services
> was managed efficiently and wisely.
>
> I'm no MBA, but if I were to call it, I would say it was a simple matter
> of too big, too many, too fast. They had offices in three countries
> (England, India, and US), lots of people, and lots of "hurry up and
> wait". The overhead of managing all those titles had to be huge, and I
> can tell you from firsthand experience that every book probably had 30
> or 40 people involved (counting the authors) in getting it to press. For
> example, my contract was FedEx'd back and forth to India twice. Not a
> lot of money, but 3-6 authors per title and several hundred titles and
> it starts to add up. Even something as niche-oriented as the security
> handbook I worked on had 18 people and 5 authors for about 225 pages.
>
> Without going into specifics, I can also say that Peer's royalty
> schedule was pretty poor in comparison to other publishers, so in that
> light they should have had more money to work with than one of the other
> companies, but apparently that didn't make a difference.
>
> John
>
> Matt Fury wrote:
>
>> How could Wrox go out of business? That doesn't sound
>> right. They have 1001 titles and write great books!
>>
>> Are you sure?
>>
>>
>> --- John Turner <to...@johnturner.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The book was never published. The original
>>> publisher (Wrox) went out of business and liquidated assets.
>>>
>>> The rights to the performance handbook (and many
>>> other former Wrox titles including the security handbook) were picked
>>> up by Apress. The rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I think
>>> Wiley is running wrox.com right now.
>>>
>>> From the conversations I've had with Apress, the
>>> future of the performance book is undecided, though that could
>>> change at any moment. I for one think there is a need for such a
>>> book, but
>>> with Tomcat 5 coming out, it might need to be rewritten to address
>>> the new release.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Flat Juas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
>>>> Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
>>>> print. There are no used copies in ebay neither.
>>>
>>>
>>> Where
>>>
>>>> can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if
>>>
>>>
>>> it's a
>>>
>>>> used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
>>>> recommend me other books about tomcat performance
>>>
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>> guide me to online resources about this subject ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by John Turner <to...@johnturner.com>.
Well, I guess we have to be more clear. "Wrox" did not go out of
business. Peer Information Services did. "Wrox" was just one of many
names that Peer used to publish materials.
So, while there were lots of titles and lots of "great" Wrox books, that
is separate from whether the company called Peer Information Services
was managed efficiently and wisely.
I'm no MBA, but if I were to call it, I would say it was a simple matter
of too big, too many, too fast. They had offices in three countries
(England, India, and US), lots of people, and lots of "hurry up and
wait". The overhead of managing all those titles had to be huge, and I
can tell you from firsthand experience that every book probably had 30
or 40 people involved (counting the authors) in getting it to press.
For example, my contract was FedEx'd back and forth to India twice. Not
a lot of money, but 3-6 authors per title and several hundred titles and
it starts to add up. Even something as niche-oriented as the security
handbook I worked on had 18 people and 5 authors for about 225 pages.
Without going into specifics, I can also say that Peer's royalty
schedule was pretty poor in comparison to other publishers, so in that
light they should have had more money to work with than one of the other
companies, but apparently that didn't make a difference.
John
Matt Fury wrote:
> How could Wrox go out of business? That doesn't sound
> right. They have 1001 titles and write great books!
>
> Are you sure?
>
>
> --- John Turner <to...@johnturner.com> wrote:
>
>>The book was never published. The original
>>publisher (Wrox) went out of
>>business and liquidated assets.
>>
>>The rights to the performance handbook (and many
>>other former Wrox
>>titles including the security handbook) were picked
>>up by Apress. The
>>rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I think
>>Wiley is running
>>wrox.com right now.
>>
>> From the conversations I've had with Apress, the
>>future of the
>>performance book is undecided, though that could
>>change at any moment.
>>I for one think there is a need for such a book, but
>>with Tomcat 5
>>coming out, it might need to be rewritten to address
>>the new release.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Flat Juas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
>>>Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
>>>print. There are no used copies in ebay neither.
>>
>>Where
>>
>>>can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if
>>
>>it's a
>>
>>>used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
>>>recommend me other books about tomcat performance
>>
>>or
>>
>>>guide me to online resources about this subject ?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>__________________________________
>>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site
>>
>>design software
>>
>>>http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by Matt Fury <ma...@yahoo.com>.
How could Wrox go out of business? That doesn't sound
right. They have 1001 titles and write great books!
Are you sure?
--- John Turner <to...@johnturner.com> wrote:
>
> The book was never published. The original
> publisher (Wrox) went out of
> business and liquidated assets.
>
> The rights to the performance handbook (and many
> other former Wrox
> titles including the security handbook) were picked
> up by Apress. The
> rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I think
> Wiley is running
> wrox.com right now.
>
> From the conversations I've had with Apress, the
> future of the
> performance book is undecided, though that could
> change at any moment.
> I for one think there is a need for such a book, but
> with Tomcat 5
> coming out, it might need to be rewritten to address
> the new release.
>
> John
>
> Flat Juas wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> > I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
> > Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
> > print. There are no used copies in ebay neither.
> Where
> > can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if
> it's a
> > used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
> > recommend me other books about tomcat performance
> or
> > guide me to online resources about this subject ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site
> design software
> > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
> >
> >
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Re: Apache Tomcat Performance Handbook
Posted by John Turner <to...@johnturner.com>.
The book was never published. The original publisher (Wrox) went out of
business and liquidated assets.
The rights to the performance handbook (and many other former Wrox
titles including the security handbook) were picked up by Apress. The
rights to the rest were picked up by Wiley. I think Wiley is running
wrox.com right now.
From the conversations I've had with Apress, the future of the
performance book is undecided, though that could change at any moment.
I for one think there is a need for such a book, but with Tomcat 5
coming out, it might need to be rewritten to address the new release.
John
Flat Juas wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> I'm looking for the "Apache Tomcat Performance
> Handbook", but in every shop I check it's out of
> print. There are no used copies in ebay neither. Where
> can I get a copy of this book (I don't mind if it's a
> used one) or buy a pdf version of it ? Can you
> recommend me other books about tomcat performance or
> guide me to online resources about this subject ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> __________________________________
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> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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