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CXF client program related question
Hi,
I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke web
service dynamically without compile time code generation.
The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft world
(ASMX & WCF).
Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a WSDL at
hand for each service to be invoked.
1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web service
call as mentioned above
1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I use
CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again for
invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come to
rescue ? if so how ?
(an example will be helpfull here too)
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Mon March 2 2009 8:13:51 am Avi Grossbard wrote:
> >Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
>
> Does CXF supports the WS-* standards that Microsoft is supporting?
> (for instance: WS-Addressing, WS-Security, WS-Transaction,
> *WS-*Reliability etc...)
>
Yes to all but WS-Transaction (which isn't really recommended to use anyway,
not the best spec).
With CXF 2.2 (real soon now), we'll be adding WS-SecurityPolicy, WS-
SecureConversation, and hopefully some level WS-Trust support.
I've SPECIFICALLY targeted WCF interop for those specs and the primary tests
for those is the MS WCF public "PlugFest" endpoints at:
http://mssoapinterop.org/ilab/
As of today, all the WS-Security (policy driven instead of the older WSS4J
method shown on the wiki) tests pass, all the WS-SecureConversation tests
pass, and about a third of the WS-Trust tests pass. I'm working on the trust
stuff now to get that in a better shape. (some of the issues there are issues
in wss4j and some are due to the policies in the MS wsdl not matching what the
service really expects). If you want to see what has been done so far, all
the code for the tests is at:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cxf/sandbox/interopfest/
Dan
> Avi
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>wrote:
> > Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
> >
> > Document/literal wrapped is the usual format in the MS world, right?
> > CXF has no problem with services like this, in my experience.
> >
> > By the way, I found a blog post with some more detail on dynamic clients:
> >
> >
> > http://techpolesen.blogspot.com/2007/08/jax-ws-dynamic-dispatch-with-cxf.
> >html
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > 2009/3/2 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> > > Thanks Andrew this seems to be the answer to my question.
> > >
> > > Does anybody knows whether this kind of client (or CXF clients in
> >
> > general)
> >
> > > can inter-operate with Microsoft WCF based web services?
> > >
> > > Avi.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Clegg <andrew@nervechannel.com
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >> Do you mean like this?
> > >>
> > >> http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
> > >>
> > >> Andrew.
> > >>
> > >> 2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> > I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can
> > >> > invoke
> > >>
> > >> web
> > >>
> > >> > service dynamically without compile time code generation.
> > >> > The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft
> > >>
> > >> world
> > >>
> > >> > (ASMX & WCF).
> > >> > Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a
> >
> > WSDL
> >
> > >> at
> > >>
> > >> > hand for each service to be invoked.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
> > >> > 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web
> > >>
> > >> service
> > >>
> > >> > call as mentioned above
> > >> > 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
> > >> > 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should
> > >> > I
> > >>
> > >> use
> > >>
> > >> > CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF
> > >> > (again
> > >>
> > >> for
> > >>
> > >> > invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very
> > >> > useful
> > >> >
> > >> > 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF
> > >> > based services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT
> > >> > project come
> >
> > to
> >
> > >> > rescue ? if so how ?
> > >> > (an example will be helpfull here too)
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
> >
> > --
> >
> > :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://www.dankulp.com/blog
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>.
http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/ws-support.html
Not sure how up to date that is, perhaps others (who actually use any
of these features) can comment :-)
Andrew.
2009/3/2 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
>>Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
> Does CXF supports the WS-* standards that Microsoft is supporting?
> (for instance: WS-Addressing, WS-Security, WS-Transaction, *WS-*Reliability
> etc...)
>
> Avi
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>wrote:
>
>> Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
>>
>> Document/literal wrapped is the usual format in the MS world, right?
>> CXF has no problem with services like this, in my experience.
>>
>> By the way, I found a blog post with some more detail on dynamic clients:
>>
>>
>> http://techpolesen.blogspot.com/2007/08/jax-ws-dynamic-dispatch-with-cxf.html
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> 2009/3/2 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
>> > Thanks Andrew this seems to be the answer to my question.
>> >
>> > Does anybody knows whether this kind of client (or CXF clients in
>> general)
>> > can inter-operate with Microsoft WCF based web services?
>> >
>> > Avi.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Clegg <andrew@nervechannel.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you mean like this?
>> >>
>> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
>> >>
>> >> Andrew.
>> >>
>> >> 2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke
>> >> web
>> >> > service dynamically without compile time code generation.
>> >> > The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft
>> >> world
>> >> > (ASMX & WCF).
>> >> > Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a
>> WSDL
>> >> at
>> >> > hand for each service to be invoked.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
>> >> > 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web
>> >> service
>> >> > call as mentioned above
>> >> > 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
>> >> > 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I
>> >> use
>> >> > CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again
>> >> for
>> >> > invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
>> >> > services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come
>> to
>> >> > rescue ? if so how ?
>> >> > (an example will be helpfull here too)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
>>
>
--
:: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>.
>Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
Does CXF supports the WS-* standards that Microsoft is supporting?
(for instance: WS-Addressing, WS-Security, WS-Transaction, *WS-*Reliability
etc...)
Avi
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>wrote:
> Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
>
> Document/literal wrapped is the usual format in the MS world, right?
> CXF has no problem with services like this, in my experience.
>
> By the way, I found a blog post with some more detail on dynamic clients:
>
>
> http://techpolesen.blogspot.com/2007/08/jax-ws-dynamic-dispatch-with-cxf.html
>
> Andrew.
>
> 2009/3/2 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> > Thanks Andrew this seems to be the answer to my question.
> >
> > Does anybody knows whether this kind of client (or CXF clients in
> general)
> > can inter-operate with Microsoft WCF based web services?
> >
> > Avi.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Clegg <andrew@nervechannel.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Do you mean like this?
> >>
> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
> >>
> >> Andrew.
> >>
> >> 2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke
> >> web
> >> > service dynamically without compile time code generation.
> >> > The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft
> >> world
> >> > (ASMX & WCF).
> >> > Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a
> WSDL
> >> at
> >> > hand for each service to be invoked.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
> >> > 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web
> >> service
> >> > call as mentioned above
> >> > 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
> >> > 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I
> >> use
> >> > CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again
> >> for
> >> > invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
> >> >
> >> > 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
> >> >
> >> > 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
> >> > services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come
> to
> >> > rescue ? if so how ?
> >> > (an example will be helpfull here too)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
>
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>.
Should be fine as long as everything is standards-compliant.
Document/literal wrapped is the usual format in the MS world, right?
CXF has no problem with services like this, in my experience.
By the way, I found a blog post with some more detail on dynamic clients:
http://techpolesen.blogspot.com/2007/08/jax-ws-dynamic-dispatch-with-cxf.html
Andrew.
2009/3/2 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> Thanks Andrew this seems to be the answer to my question.
>
> Does anybody knows whether this kind of client (or CXF clients in general)
> can inter-operate with Microsoft WCF based web services?
>
> Avi.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>wrote:
>
>> Do you mean like this?
>>
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> 2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke
>> web
>> > service dynamically without compile time code generation.
>> > The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft
>> world
>> > (ASMX & WCF).
>> > Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a WSDL
>> at
>> > hand for each service to be invoked.
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
>> > 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web
>> service
>> > call as mentioned above
>> > 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
>> > 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I
>> use
>> > CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again
>> for
>> > invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
>> >
>> > 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
>> >
>> > 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
>> > services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come to
>> > rescue ? if so how ?
>> > (an example will be helpfull here too)
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
>>
>
--
:: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Andrew this seems to be the answer to my question.
Does anybody knows whether this kind of client (or CXF clients in general)
can inter-operate with Microsoft WCF based web services?
Avi.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>wrote:
> Do you mean like this?
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
>
> Andrew.
>
> 2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> > I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke
> web
> > service dynamically without compile time code generation.
> > The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft
> world
> > (ASMX & WCF).
> > Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a WSDL
> at
> > hand for each service to be invoked.
> >
> >
> > 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
> > 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web
> service
> > call as mentioned above
> > 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
> > 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I
> use
> > CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again
> for
> > invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
> >
> > 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
> >
> > 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
> > services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come to
> > rescue ? if so how ?
> > (an example will be helpfull here too)
> >
>
>
>
> --
> :: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::
>
Re: CXF client program related question
Posted by Andrew Clegg <an...@nervechannel.com>.
Do you mean like this?
http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF20DOC/dynamic-clients.html
Andrew.
2009/3/1 Avi Grossbard <av...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for an easy way to create a client program that can invoke web
> service dynamically without compile time code generation.
> The expected web services to be invoked are of mostly from Microsoft world
> (ASMX & WCF).
> Note: The only assumption that I'm allowed to make is that I have a WSDL at
> hand for each service to be invoked.
>
>
> 1. Is CXF equipped with the functionality:
> 1.1 To allow dynamically (no compile time generated file) invoke web service
> call as mentioned above
> 1.2 To interoperable successfully with WCF based web services
> 1.3 If the answer is, "use the JAX-WS Dispatch API", then why should I use
> CXF anyway? or in other words, what are the merits of using CXF (again for
> invoking web services only) relative to direct use of JAX-WS ?
>
> 2. An example (if available) that demonstrate it, will be very useful
>
> 3. If CXF client cannot inter-operate "out of the box" with WCF based
> services (I assume due to the WS-* protocols), can WSIT project come to
> rescue ? if so how ?
> (an example will be helpfull here too)
>
--
:: http://biotext.org.uk/ ::