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Posted to dev@turbine.apache.org by Jason van Zyl <jv...@apache.org> on 2001/06/28 16:10:59 UTC
Todays Changes
Hi,
Today I would like to separate the scheduler from Turbine so that
a scheduled job is not a module. I think it's in our best interest
to consider modules strictly as part of the view pipeline. Plus I
think the scheduler has to be decoupled from Turbine.
The other thing I want to do is remove the use of ECS from the
view pipeline all together. We discussed this briefly a while
back and I think everyone was in agreement except Jon.
Jon, are you still against removing ECS from all the modules?
I don't think we need ECS in there at all. In almost all
cases in the view pipeline we're just doing Element.toString()
type actions anyway so I don't see the point in using ECS if
we're just asking for Strings anyway. I think everything should
be moved into templates. Requiring the use of ECS to alter the
content of a page is also not very MVC IMO.
Anyway these are the two things that I would like to work on
today. I'll wait a while for response on the ECS issue, but I'll
get started on separating the scheduler out.
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
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Re: Todays Changes
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@apache.org>.
On 6/28/01 11:58 AM, "Jon Stevens" <jo...@latchkey.com> wrote:
> on 6/28/01 7:10 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Today I would like to separate the scheduler from Turbine so that
>> a scheduled job is not a module. I think it's in our best interest
>> to consider modules strictly as part of the view pipeline. Plus I
>> think the scheduler has to be decoupled from Turbine.
>
> +1
>
>> The other thing I want to do is remove the use of ECS from the
>> view pipeline all together. We discussed this briefly a while
>> back and I think everyone was in agreement except Jon.
>>
>> Jon, are you still against removing ECS from all the modules?
>>
>> I don't think we need ECS in there at all. In almost all
>> cases in the view pipeline we're just doing Element.toString()
>> type actions anyway so I don't see the point in using ECS if
>> we're just asking for Strings anyway. I think everything should
>> be moved into templates. Requiring the use of ECS to alter the
>> content of a page is also not very MVC IMO.
>>
>> Anyway these are the two things that I would like to work on
>> today. I'll wait a while for response on the ECS issue, but I'll
>> get started on separating the scheduler out.
>
> I am in agreement if you can figure out a way to do it properly and have
> everything continue to work. :-)
Ok, I think I can do that :-) I think I have it worked out, I'll
blow it by the list before I commit.
> -jon
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jvz.
Jason van Zyl
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http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
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Re: Todays Changes
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 6/28/01 7:10 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today I would like to separate the scheduler from Turbine so that
> a scheduled job is not a module. I think it's in our best interest
> to consider modules strictly as part of the view pipeline. Plus I
> think the scheduler has to be decoupled from Turbine.
+1
> The other thing I want to do is remove the use of ECS from the
> view pipeline all together. We discussed this briefly a while
> back and I think everyone was in agreement except Jon.
>
> Jon, are you still against removing ECS from all the modules?
>
> I don't think we need ECS in there at all. In almost all
> cases in the view pipeline we're just doing Element.toString()
> type actions anyway so I don't see the point in using ECS if
> we're just asking for Strings anyway. I think everything should
> be moved into templates. Requiring the use of ECS to alter the
> content of a page is also not very MVC IMO.
>
> Anyway these are the two things that I would like to work on
> today. I'll wait a while for response on the ECS issue, but I'll
> get started on separating the scheduler out.
I am in agreement if you can figure out a way to do it properly and have
everything continue to work. :-)
-jon
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