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Posted to dev@freemarker.apache.org by Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org> on 2017/12/15 13:09:20 UTC
Re: Attempting graduation?
I would like to revie this thread.
Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
some little things at least.
Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
intends to tackle these?
Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
> page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?). What's
> next? Anyone?
>
>
> Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>
>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for the migration.
>>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation process.
>>
>> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
>> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
>>
>> Related:
>>
>> -
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
>>
>> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
>> Here some dates are year only.
>>
>> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
>> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
>> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
>>
>>> Jacopo
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up again
>>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now. Also
>>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>> >>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>> >>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>> >>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO), also I hear
>>>> >>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in Chrome if
>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page under
>>>> >>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
>>>> >>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
>>>> >>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it yet.
>>>> >>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely Monday...
>>>> >>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Jacques
>>>> >>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be available
>>>> before November
>>>> >>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far all seems
>>>> OK :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site, so no
>>>> >> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for now.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks for the checking the release!
>>>> >
>>>> > I should also point out that in the last board report the issue of
>>>> > freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
>>>> > site came up. I would suggest that the project make that transition
>>>> > sooner than later if graduation is desired.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ralph
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Attempting graduation?
Posted by Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>.
Wednesday, December 20, 2017, 9:31:19 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> The very next steps should be:
> 1) run a vote in this list to make sure the community is happy to graduate;
> see "Community Graduation Vote" [*]
> 2) when the vote #1 starts, send an email to the Incubator general list to
> inform them that the vote is running
> I suggest to perform them now.
Aggreed.
> Then the next steps will be (assuming the vote has passed):
> 3) prepare the graduation proposal; see "Preparing a Charter" [**]
> 4) send the proposal to the Incubator general list for review before the
> vote
> 5) start the graduation vote in the Incubator general list; see "The
> Recommendation Vote" [***]
>
> Then (if the recommendation vote will be successful) we will submit the
> resolution to the Board.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jacopo
>
> [*]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> [**]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#preparing_a_charter
> [***]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Right. Sorry for the confusion. When I said "committed" I wanted to say
>> people engadget with the project after graduation, so PMC members in short.
>>
>> I believe Daniel already got this list pretty clear.
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2017 14:07, "Ralph Goers" <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The board needs a list of the PMC members, not necessarily committers,
>> > although it is unusual that a podling will become a TLP with committers
>> who
>> > aren’t PMC members.
>> >
>> > Ralph
>> >
>> > > On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > HI Daniel,
>> > >
>> > > the graduation resolution is a formal text that has to be submitted to
>> > the
>> > > ASF Board to communicate the graduation of the podling. Further
>> > information
>> > > at
>> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#
>> > submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board
>> > >
>> > > It has to be drafted internally, voted first by the PPMC and secondly
>> by
>> > > the IPMC (not that different than voting a release).
>> > >
>> > > The text is pretty standard. The two main things to decide are: 1) who
>> is
>> > > going to be the Freemarker VP 2) list of committed to the new TLP
>> > >
>> > > I drafted one in the past
>> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/marmotta/graduation/resolution.txt
>> > than we
>> > > can use as an example for moving forward with this.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I would like to revie this thread.
>> > >>
>> > >> Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
>> > >> formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
>> > >> some little things at least.
>> > >>
>> > >> Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
>> > >> things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
>> > >> VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
>> > >> intends to tackle these?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
>> > >>> page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?).
>> What's
>> > >>> next? Anyone?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> +1 for the migration.
>> > >>>>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation
>> process.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
>> > >>>> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Related:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> -
>> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
>> > >> Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
>> > >>>> Here some dates are year only.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
>> > >>>> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
>> > >>>> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Jacopo
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <
>> ddekany@apache.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up
>> > >> again
>> > >>>>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now.
>> > >> Also
>> > >>>>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO),
>> also
>> > >> I hear
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in
>> > >> Chrome if
>> > >>>>>> you
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page
>> > >> under
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it
>> > >> yet.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely
>> Monday...
>> > >>>>>>>>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>> > >>>>>>>>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be
>> > >> available
>> > >>>>>> before November
>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far
>> all
>> > >> seems
>> > >>>>>> OK :)
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site,
>> so
>> > >> no
>> > >>>>>>>> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for
>> > >> now.)
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the checking the release!
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I should also point out that in the last board report the issue
>> of
>> > >>>>>>> freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
>> > >>>>>>> site came up. I would suggest that the project make that
>> transition
>> > >>>>>>> sooner than later if graduation is desired.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Ralph
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>> Daniel Dekany
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Daniel Dekany
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
--
Thanks,
Daniel Dekany
Re: Attempting graduation?
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@gmail.com>.
The very next steps should be:
1) run a vote in this list to make sure the community is happy to graduate;
see "Community Graduation Vote" [*]
2) when the vote #1 starts, send an email to the Incubator general list to
inform them that the vote is running
I suggest to perform them now.
Then the next steps will be (assuming the vote has passed):
3) prepare the graduation proposal; see "Preparing a Charter" [**]
4) send the proposal to the Incubator general list for review before the
vote
5) start the graduation vote in the Incubator general list; see "The
Recommendation Vote" [***]
Then (if the recommendation vote will be successful) we will submit the
resolution to the Board.
Regards,
Jacopo
[*]
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
[**] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#preparing_a_charter
[***]
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#the_recommendation_vote
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Right. Sorry for the confusion. When I said "committed" I wanted to say
> people engadget with the project after graduation, so PMC members in short.
>
> I believe Daniel already got this list pretty clear.
>
> On Dec 16, 2017 14:07, "Ralph Goers" <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> > The board needs a list of the PMC members, not necessarily committers,
> > although it is unusual that a podling will become a TLP with committers
> who
> > aren’t PMC members.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > HI Daniel,
> > >
> > > the graduation resolution is a formal text that has to be submitted to
> > the
> > > ASF Board to communicate the graduation of the podling. Further
> > information
> > > at
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#
> > submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board
> > >
> > > It has to be drafted internally, voted first by the PPMC and secondly
> by
> > > the IPMC (not that different than voting a release).
> > >
> > > The text is pretty standard. The two main things to decide are: 1) who
> is
> > > going to be the Freemarker VP 2) list of committed to the new TLP
> > >
> > > I drafted one in the past
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/marmotta/graduation/resolution.txt
> > than we
> > > can use as an example for moving forward with this.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would like to revie this thread.
> > >>
> > >> Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
> > >> formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
> > >> some little things at least.
> > >>
> > >> Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
> > >> things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
> > >> VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
> > >> intends to tackle these?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
> > >>> page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?).
> What's
> > >>> next? Anyone?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> +1 for the migration.
> > >>>>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation
> process.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
> > >>>> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Related:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -
> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
> > >> Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
> > >>>> Here some dates are year only.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
> > >>>> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
> > >>>> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Jacopo
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <
> ddekany@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up
> > >> again
> > >>>>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now.
> > >> Also
> > >>>>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO),
> also
> > >> I hear
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in
> > >> Chrome if
> > >>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page
> > >> under
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it
> > >> yet.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely
> Monday...
> > >>>>>>>>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> > >>>>>>>>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be
> > >> available
> > >>>>>> before November
> > >>>>>>>>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far
> all
> > >> seems
> > >>>>>> OK :)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site,
> so
> > >> no
> > >>>>>>>> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for
> > >> now.)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the checking the release!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I should also point out that in the last board report the issue
> of
> > >>>>>>> freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
> > >>>>>>> site came up. I would suggest that the project make that
> transition
> > >>>>>>> sooner than later if graduation is desired.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Ralph
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> Daniel Dekany
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Daniel Dekany
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Attempting graduation?
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
Right. Sorry for the confusion. When I said "committed" I wanted to say
people engadget with the project after graduation, so PMC members in short.
I believe Daniel already got this list pretty clear.
On Dec 16, 2017 14:07, "Ralph Goers" <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> The board needs a list of the PMC members, not necessarily committers,
> although it is unusual that a podling will become a TLP with committers who
> aren’t PMC members.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > HI Daniel,
> >
> > the graduation resolution is a formal text that has to be submitted to
> the
> > ASF Board to communicate the graduation of the podling. Further
> information
> > at
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#
> submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board
> >
> > It has to be drafted internally, voted first by the PPMC and secondly by
> > the IPMC (not that different than voting a release).
> >
> > The text is pretty standard. The two main things to decide are: 1) who is
> > going to be the Freemarker VP 2) list of committed to the new TLP
> >
> > I drafted one in the past
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/marmotta/graduation/resolution.txt
> than we
> > can use as an example for moving forward with this.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I would like to revie this thread.
> >>
> >> Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
> >> formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
> >> some little things at least.
> >>
> >> Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
> >> things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
> >> VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
> >> intends to tackle these?
> >>
> >>
> >> Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> >>
> >>> So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
> >>> page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?). What's
> >>> next? Anyone?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 for the migration.
> >>>>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
> >>>> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Related:
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
> >> Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
> >>>>
> >>>> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
> >>>> Here some dates are year only.
> >>>>
> >>>> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
> >>>> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
> >>>> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Jacopo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up
> >> again
> >>>>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now.
> >> Also
> >>>>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO), also
> >> I hear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in
> >> Chrome if
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page
> >> under
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it
> >> yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely Monday...
> >>>>>>>>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be
> >> available
> >>>>>> before November
> >>>>>>>>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far all
> >> seems
> >>>>>> OK :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site, so
> >> no
> >>>>>>>> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for
> >> now.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the checking the release!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I should also point out that in the last board report the issue of
> >>>>>>> freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
> >>>>>>> site came up. I would suggest that the project make that transition
> >>>>>>> sooner than later if graduation is desired.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ralph
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Daniel Dekany
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> Daniel Dekany
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: Attempting graduation?
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
The board needs a list of the PMC members, not necessarily committers, although it is unusual that a podling will become a TLP with committers who aren’t PMC members.
Ralph
> On Dec 15, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> HI Daniel,
>
> the graduation resolution is a formal text that has to be submitted to the
> ASF Board to communicate the graduation of the podling. Further information
> at
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board
>
> It has to be drafted internally, voted first by the PPMC and secondly by
> the IPMC (not that different than voting a release).
>
> The text is pretty standard. The two main things to decide are: 1) who is
> going to be the Freemarker VP 2) list of committed to the new TLP
>
> I drafted one in the past
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/marmotta/graduation/resolution.txt than we
> can use as an example for moving forward with this.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I would like to revie this thread.
>>
>> Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
>> formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
>> some little things at least.
>>
>> Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
>> things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
>> VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
>> intends to tackle these?
>>
>>
>> Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>
>>> So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
>>> page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?). What's
>>> next? Anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>>
>>>> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for the migration.
>>>>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation process.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
>>>> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
>>>>
>>>> Related:
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
>> Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
>>>>
>>>> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
>>>> Here some dates are year only.
>>>>
>>>> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
>>>> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
>>>> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
>>>>
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up
>> again
>>>>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now.
>> Also
>>>>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO), also
>> I hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in
>> Chrome if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page
>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it
>> yet.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely Monday...
>>>>>>>>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be
>> available
>>>>>> before November
>>>>>>>>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far all
>> seems
>>>>>> OK :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site, so
>> no
>>>>>>>> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for
>> now.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the checking the release!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should also point out that in the last board report the issue of
>>>>>>> freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
>>>>>>> site came up. I would suggest that the project make that transition
>>>>>>> sooner than later if graduation is desired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel Dekany
>>
>>
Re: Attempting graduation?
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
HI Daniel,
the graduation resolution is a formal text that has to be submitted to the
ASF Board to communicate the graduation of the podling. Further information
at
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board
It has to be drafted internally, voted first by the PPMC and secondly by
the IPMC (not that different than voting a release).
The text is pretty standard. The two main things to decide are: 1) who is
going to be the Freemarker VP 2) list of committed to the new TLP
I drafted one in the past
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/marmotta/graduation/resolution.txt than we
can use as an example for moving forward with this.
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org> wrote:
> I would like to revie this thread.
>
> Again, I would like to encourage others to check if we miss some
> formal requirements, other than the VOTE thread here. I bet there are
> some little things at least.
>
> Also https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html talks about
> things like propose a "resolution" general incubator list before a
> VOTE, etc. (OFBiz is brough up as a good example there.) Anyone
> intends to tackle these?
>
>
> Wednesday, November 8, 2017, 1:34:24 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>
> > So, we have released 2.3.27, and has changed the domain of the home
> > page (not of try.freemarker.org though... is that a problem?). What's
> > next? Anyone?
> >
> >
> > Monday, October 23, 2017, 3:18:54 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
> >
> >> Monday, October 23, 2017, 4:04:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 for the migration.
> >>> And right after that I think we should start the graduation process.
> >>
> >> Agreed regarding graduation. (We certainly should release 2.3.27
> >> before that, but it's very close anyway, hopefully.)
> >>
> >> Related:
> >>
> >> -
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/
> Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
> >>
> >> - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html:
> >> Here some dates are year only.
> >>
> >> - https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker:
> >> This has some glitches, like it states "No Release Yet/Binary has
> >> licensing issues"... will have to update this somehow.
> >>
> >>> Jacopo
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> As this issue that we aren't using an apache.org domain comes up
> again
> >>>> and again, I propose that we switch to freemarker.apache.org now.
> Also
> >>>> to try.freemarker.apache.org. Anybody for or against it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Friday, October 20, 2017, 10:18:01 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> On Oct 20, 2017, at 5:59 AM, Daniel Dekany <dd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Friday, October 20, 2017, 12:24:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> Le 01/10/2017 à 23:27, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>> >>>> Sunday, October 1, 2017, 8:26:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Le 23/09/2017 à 08:44, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>> >>>>>> Friday, September 22, 2017, 11:17:59 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Le 22/09/2017 à 22:22, Daniel Dekany a écrit :
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Google doesn't like plain HTTP sites as we know (SEO), also
> I hear
> >>>> >>>>>>>> that starting from October they want to show warning in
> Chrome if
> >>>> you
> >>>> >>>>>>>> have forms on your page. We do have forms... On all page
> under
> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://freemarker.org/docs/ there's a search field, and
> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://try.freemarker.org/ is nothing but a form.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone want to tackle this? Or part of this?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> I did that for OFBiz. I can have a look before October.
> >>>> >>>>>> That would be great, thanks!
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Sorry, OFBiz still being my priority, I was not able to do it
> yet.
> >>>> >>>>> But I should be able to start this week, most likely Monday...
> >>>> >>>> No problem, and thanks for keep us informed!
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Jacques
> >>>> >>> Sorry again, my current contract has changed and I'll not be
> available
> >>>> before November
> >>>> >>> I'm though trying the new release in OFBiz right now, so far all
> seems
> >>>> OK :)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> The latest Chrome doesn't (yet?) show any warnings on our site, so
> no
> >>>> >> problem. (Maybe they only do it if there's a password filed, for
> now.)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Thanks for the checking the release!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I should also point out that in the last board report the issue of
> >>>> > freemarker not yet having an apache.org <http://apache.org/> web
> >>>> > site came up. I would suggest that the project make that transition
> >>>> > sooner than later if graduation is desired.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ralph
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Daniel Dekany
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Daniel Dekany
>
>