Name search for Taverna?

[Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>]

Somewhere on http://incubator.apache.org/projects/taverna.html it says
we have to do a Name Search

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html


We seem to have forgotten about this - and thus could presumably also
delay a release?

I've made an issue and done the basic searchers - as a pretty old
project we should be in clear, as long as one of those Greek
restaurants don't start building radical workflow solutions..


I've filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-68
- but Jira managed to mess up my linefeeds somewhere in its AJAX..




-- 
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718

Re: Name search for Taverna?

[Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>]

The name search needs to be done by the time the project becomes a TLP. 
  That said, now is a good time.

Apache registers a few names as trademarks but not all projects.  It 
does cost the foundation.  A trademark does not need to be registered 
though it does make it stronger.

First use matters - someone can't pre-empt it later when tyhey knew 
about the mark.  Being "Apache Taverna" does make it pretty easy to find 
so no excuses there and www.taverna.org.uk is pretty prominent.

	Andy

On 28/01/15 08:56, Shoaib Sufi wrote:
> We decided against trademarking the term on financial grounds -
> worldwide trademark would have cost about £10,000 (I might be wrong)
>
> A UK one costs around £500.
>
> We always thought well if the trademark is owned by the University of
> Manchester that might lead to more complications if we take the
> project over to Apache or another foundation.
>
>  From the searchers I have done (admittedly basic) - in the category we
> operate in - computer software (class 42) - Taverna looks like it is
> available (it does not matter if someone has the trademark for Taverna
> for a food related class - as that won't affect us).
>
> How does this work from the Apache side - do they need to have the
> trademarks of all their names - and one happened if someone
> trademarked 'Tomcat' for software - would Apache have to change their
> name?
>
> Comments from a mentor with more experience in this area would be helpful.
>
> Thanks
> Shoaib
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Alan Williams <al...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> IIRC (and I may be wrong), ages ago a trademark search was done with a view
>> to possibly trademarking (I think) the name. Shoaib should remember.
>>
>> Alan
>>

Re: Name search for Taverna?

[Shoaib Sufi <sh...@gmail.com>]

We decided against trademarking the term on financial grounds -
worldwide trademark would have cost about £10,000 (I might be wrong)

A UK one costs around £500.

We always thought well if the trademark is owned by the University of
Manchester that might lead to more complications if we take the
project over to Apache or another foundation.

>From the searchers I have done (admittedly basic) - in the category we
operate in - computer software (class 42) - Taverna looks like it is
available (it does not matter if someone has the trademark for Taverna
for a food related class - as that won't affect us).

How does this work from the Apache side - do they need to have the
trademarks of all their names - and one happened if someone
trademarked 'Tomcat' for software - would Apache have to change their
name?

Comments from a mentor with more experience in this area would be helpful.

Thanks
Shoaib


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Alan Williams <al...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> IIRC (and I may be wrong), ages ago a trademark search was done with a view
> to possibly trademarking (I think) the name. Shoaib should remember.
>
> Alan
>

Re: Name search for Taverna?

[Alan Williams <al...@googlemail.com>]

IIRC (and I may be wrong), ages ago a trademark search was done with a 
view to possibly trademarking (I think) the name. Shoaib should remember.

Alan

Re: Name search for Taverna?

[Marlon Pierce <ma...@iu.edu>]

Name searches usually are done when you are getting ready to graduate.

Marlon

On 1/28/15 1:23 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> Somewhere on http://incubator.apache.org/projects/taverna.html it says
> we have to do a Name Search
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>
>
> We seem to have forgotten about this - and thus could presumably also
> delay a release?
>
> I've made an issue and done the basic searchers - as a pretty old
> project we should be in clear, as long as one of those Greek
> restaurants don't start building radical workflow solutions..
>
>
> I've filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-68
> - but Jira managed to mess up my linefeeds somewhere in its AJAX..
>
>
>
>