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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Shawn Iverson <sh...@gmail.com> on 2022/12/21 18:05:12 UTC

SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Hello SA Users,

Just posting this in case anyone else runs into similar trouble...

sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on recent flavors
of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:

You are not root
The cpan configuration is set to build specifically using local lib or
sudo. sudo seems to work if you want to install SA for all users instead of
in the home directory. The key is that the building/testing is happening in
the user's home directory.

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Tom Hendrikx <to...@whyscream.net>.
On 22-12-2022 01:48, Shawn Iverson wrote:
 > I will not engage in furthering this conversation.  Sad there seems to
 > be some toxicity here.
 >

Hi Shawn,

Please ignore comments from Reindl Harald, he has been banned from 
several mailing lists for sending negative, abusive or outright 
aggressive comments in response to questions. He doesn't post to these 
lists anymore, but apparently he still sends responses directly to 
subscribers. He does not represent the regular sentiment on this mailing 
list.

I'm afraid that I can't help you with your issue, I don't use RHEL, RPMs 
or CPAN. But I want to let you know that your questions on this list are 
useful, so please continue.

Kind regards,

   Tom

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Shawn Iverson <sh...@gmail.com>.
I will not engage in furthering this conversation.  Sad there seems to be
some toxicity here.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 7:46 PM Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> wrote:

>
>
> Am 22.12.22 um 01:36 schrieb Shawn Iverson:
> > I already build my own rpms
>
> so use them
>
> > This is not for my use
>
> so what's the point of using something else than you?
>
> either what you did is wrong or what the others asking your hekp is
> wrong - if someine is asking you the asnwer is use a package - if the
> anser is not accepoted send him straight to hell
>
> > Sorry if trying
> > to provide a helpful tid on cpan as described in the SA release was
> wrong.
>
> CPAn, PIP or wthaever stuff for whatever language is crap on a package
> based system - why do you give a shit when you are able to build packages?
>
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 7:34 PM Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net
> > <ma...@thelounge.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Am 21.12.22 um 21:43 schrieb Shawn Iverson:
> >      > I agree with you on that.  In my specific use case I need
> >     fallback to
> >      > cpan when rpms aren't available.
> >
> >     if you want the latest vesion of every piece of software don't use a
> >     LTS
> >     distribution or learn how to build your own rpms
> >
> >      > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 3:32 PM Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> >     <uhlar@fantomas.sk <ma...@fantomas.sk>
> >      > <mailto:uhlar@fantomas.sk <ma...@fantomas.sk>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     On 21.12.22 13:05, Shawn Iverson wrote:
> >      >      >sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on
> >      >     recent flavors
> >      >      >of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:
> >      >
> >      >     I recommend you NOT install spamassassin via CPAN, but from
> >     package.
> >      >     perhaps the one in redhat or in EPEL
>

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Shawn Iverson <sh...@gmail.com>.
I already build my own rpms.  This is not for my use.  Sorry if trying to
provide a helpful tid on cpan as described in the SA release was wrong.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 7:34 PM Reindl Harald <h....@thelounge.net> wrote:

>
>
> Am 21.12.22 um 21:43 schrieb Shawn Iverson:
> > I agree with you on that.  In my specific use case I need fallback to
> > cpan when rpms aren't available.
>
> if you want the latest vesion of every piece of software don't use a LTS
> distribution or learn how to build your own rpms
>
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 3:32 PM Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uhlar@fantomas.sk
> > <ma...@fantomas.sk>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 21.12.22 13:05, Shawn Iverson wrote:
> >      >sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on
> >     recent flavors
> >      >of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:
> >
> >     I recommend you NOT install spamassassin via CPAN, but from package.
> >     perhaps the one in redhat or in EPEL
>
>

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Shawn Iverson <sh...@gmail.com>.
I agree with you on that.  In my specific use case I need fallback to cpan
when rpms aren't available.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 3:32 PM Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>
wrote:

> On 21.12.22 13:05, Shawn Iverson wrote:
> >sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on recent
> flavors
> >of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:
>
> I recommend you NOT install spamassassin via CPAN, but from package.
> perhaps the one in redhat or in EPEL
>
> --
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uhlar@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/
> Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address.
> Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu.
> Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how popular it remains?
>

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
On 21.12.22 13:05, Shawn Iverson wrote:
>sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on recent flavors
>of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:

I recommend you NOT install spamassassin via CPAN, but from package.
perhaps the one in redhat or in EPEL

-- 
Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uhlar@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/
Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address.
Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu.
Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how popular it remains?

Re: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions

Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
If this is on 4.0, perhaps a bug should be opened.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shawn Iverson 
  To: SA Mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2022 10:05 AM
  Subject: SA build from cpan fails under certain conditions


  Hello SA Users,


  Just posting this in case anyone else runs into similar trouble...


  sudo cpan Mail::Spamassassin seems to only build properly on recent flavors of rhel under very specific conditions, notably:


  You are not root
  The cpan configuration is set to build specifically using local lib or sudo. sudo seems to work if you want to install SA for all users instead of in the home directory. The key is that the building/testing is happening in the user's home directory.