RE: ANNOUCEMENT: new mailing list: commons-process@jakarta.apache .org

["Waldhoff, Rodney" <rw...@us.britannica.com>]

> I'd like to suggest that all mail not 
> specifically related to code issues
> move over to this new list.  Any issues 
> about how fine the line is between
> code issues and non-code issues should 
> move to the new list.  Any discussion 
> about how (in)appropriate my creating 
> this new mailing list should move to 
> the new list.

:), cute

I'm actually not sure that I have a complaint, I'm just curious if I missed
it or something. Was this idea discussed somewhere?  

Care to comment on what led to commons-process (given that there's no, say,
ant-process or tomcat-process or for that matter even a jakarta-process
(although jakarta-gereral may be seen that way I guess))?

 - Rod

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS

[Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>]

> I am not completely sure if we should have general. If general is not
> for the discussion of general jakarta issues, what is its role then?

Correction:
  I am not completely sure if we should have discuss-jakarta.

Paulo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paulo Gaspar [mailto:paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:49 PM
> To: commons-process@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS
>
>
> I sure agree that a name like discuss would remove more noise from dev
> and makes sense for most projects.
>
> I am not completely sure if we should have general. If general is not
> for the discussion of general jakarta issues, what is its role then?
>
> I don't really get the jakarta-dev and jakarta-user ideas either and
> I would not like to have a zillion more mailing lists to follow.
>
>
> Have fun,
> Paulo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:16 PM
> > To: commons-process@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS
> >
> >
> > There wasn't any discussion, Sam just took the initiative (way to go
> > Sam!).
> >
> > I'm thinking that adding a DISCUSS (or PROPOSAL) list to the standard
> > array makes sense, and it's something that the other subprojects might
> > consider.
> >
> > <ot>I'm also thinking that maybe we should have a Jakarta-DISCUSS and
> > Jakarta-DEV list too. The first being where the "code convention"
> > threads can go, and the second being reserved to VOTES and other
> > business before the PMC. And maybe a Jakarta-USER to replace General.
> > Why not keep using the same wheels?</ot>
> >
> > But my proposal is to add a Commons-USER and Commons-DISCUSS list to the
> > resources offered by the commons.
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
> > > "Waldhoff, Rodney" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd like to suggest that all mail not
> > > > specifically related to code issues
> > > > move over to this new list.  Any issues
> > > > about how fine the line is between
> > > > code issues and non-code issues should
> > > > move to the new list.  Any discussion
> > > > about how (in)appropriate my creating
> > > > this new mailing list should move to
> > > > the new list.
> > >
> > > :), cute
> > >
> > > I'm actually not sure that I have a complaint, I'm just curious if I
> > > missed it or something. Was this idea discussed somewhere?
> > >
> > > Care to comment on what led to commons-process (given that there's no,
> > > say, ant-process or tomcat-process or for that matter even a
> > > jakarta-process (although jakarta-gereral may be seen that way I
> > > guess))?
> > >
> > >  - Rod
> >
>

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS

[Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>]

I sure agree that a name like discuss would remove more noise from dev
and makes sense for most projects.

I am not completely sure if we should have general. If general is not
for the discussion of general jakarta issues, what is its role then?

I don't really get the jakarta-dev and jakarta-user ideas either and
I would not like to have a zillion more mailing lists to follow.


Have fun,
Paulo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:16 PM
> To: commons-process@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS
> 
> 
> There wasn't any discussion, Sam just took the initiative (way to go
> Sam!). 
> 
> I'm thinking that adding a DISCUSS (or PROPOSAL) list to the standard
> array makes sense, and it's something that the other subprojects might
> consider. 
> 
> <ot>I'm also thinking that maybe we should have a Jakarta-DISCUSS and
> Jakarta-DEV list too. The first being where the "code convention"
> threads can go, and the second being reserved to VOTES and other
> business before the PMC. And maybe a Jakarta-USER to replace General.
> Why not keep using the same wheels?</ot>
> 
> But my proposal is to add a Commons-USER and Commons-DISCUSS list to the
> resources offered by the commons. 
> 
> -Ted.
> 
> 
> > "Waldhoff, Rodney" wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd like to suggest that all mail not
> > > specifically related to code issues
> > > move over to this new list.  Any issues
> > > about how fine the line is between
> > > code issues and non-code issues should
> > > move to the new list.  Any discussion
> > > about how (in)appropriate my creating
> > > this new mailing list should move to
> > > the new list.
> > 
> > :), cute
> > 
> > I'm actually not sure that I have a complaint, I'm just curious if I
> > missed it or something. Was this idea discussed somewhere?
> > 
> > Care to comment on what led to commons-process (given that there's no,
> > say, ant-process or tomcat-process or for that matter even a
> > jakarta-process (although jakarta-gereral may be seen that way I
> > guess))?
> > 
> >  - Rod
> 

[PROPOSAL] Commons-USER, Commons-DISCUSS

[Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>]

There wasn't any discussion, Sam just took the initiative (way to go
Sam!). 

I'm thinking that adding a DISCUSS (or PROPOSAL) list to the standard
array makes sense, and it's something that the other subprojects might
consider. 

<ot>I'm also thinking that maybe we should have a Jakarta-DISCUSS and
Jakarta-DEV list too. The first being where the "code convention"
threads can go, and the second being reserved to VOTES and other
business before the PMC. And maybe a Jakarta-USER to replace General.
Why not keep using the same wheels?</ot>

But my proposal is to add a Commons-USER and Commons-DISCUSS list to the
resources offered by the commons. 

-Ted.


> "Waldhoff, Rodney" wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to suggest that all mail not
> > specifically related to code issues
> > move over to this new list.  Any issues
> > about how fine the line is between
> > code issues and non-code issues should
> > move to the new list.  Any discussion
> > about how (in)appropriate my creating
> > this new mailing list should move to
> > the new list.
> 
> :), cute
> 
> I'm actually not sure that I have a complaint, I'm just curious if I
> missed it or something. Was this idea discussed somewhere?
> 
> Care to comment on what led to commons-process (given that there's no,
> say, ant-process or tomcat-process or for that matter even a
> jakarta-process (although jakarta-gereral may be seen that way I
> guess))?
> 
>  - Rod