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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> on 2017/06/01 17:54:08 UTC
Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services
Wade,
yes, some dated version of Synergy sources are in the NetBeans SVN
repository but I have asked Lada to remove sensitive/private data from
his local version and commit it to our repository. Publishing on GitHub
is unfortunately not an option due to Oracle ownership and hence
licensing issues.
Thanks,
-Jirka
Dne 31.5.2017 v 13:00 Wade Chandler napsal(a):
> Jirka
>
> Is Synergy open sourced out in Github or else where? If I missed this in my
> reading apologies. If not, can it be?
>
> I have used this a lot, and very useful, but definitely not the same
> Synergy :-)
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_symless_synergy&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=DTNBeV41isNx5X1PKQCZMZpsOAfabaMZa2I8UyUDZ-Q&s=WbBtzDO-l9tSHJyI9aZs4L0_bVWrJ1OuycQGMQF8aVg&e=
>
> Thanks
>
> Wade
>
> On May 31, 2017 1:02 AM, "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes Emi, Synergy was developed by Vladimír Říha (an Oracle employee) and
>> it is only used by Oracle as far as I know - now already by two projects
>> (NetBeans and ABCS).
>>
>> I agree that it's a really great tool but I don't agree that you should
>> feel bad about not knowing Synergy before. :)
>>
>> Here is the list of all important features which Synergy provides:
>>
>> * users/roles/tribes management
>> * test specifications management including history
>> * projects/versions/platforms management
>> * tutorials reviews
>> * progress tracking, calendar
>> * automatic execution time measurement
>> * executive views (coverage, statistics, summaries)
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> -Jirka
>>
>> Dne 30.5.2017 v 22:31 Emilian Bold napsal(a):
>>
>> It's humbling that I'm only learning of this now. I should have joined
>>> NetCAT...
>>>
>>> The tool looks very nice! I assume it's something custom made since I
>>> can't
>>> find any other reference to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> What is Synergy and what are the test specifications?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Let me start with the second part of the question. The test specs contain
>>>> test cases that are executed by manual testers to verify functionality.
>>>> These test specs have been compiled by many different people over the
>>>> years. The test specs did live on the wiki until Synergy was created.
>>>> Here
>>>> is a sample of one such a test spec in Synergy:
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__services
>>>> .netbeans.org_synergy_client_app_index.html-23&d=DwIBaQ&c=R
>>>> oP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3
>>>> cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=gn5CRF2aKvP_bkGOt-3dwUpQC22N
>>>> phS4RD2xbQsPXLs&s=R7eTtc1FEJiEy7Lg_WrvjB01MOWDTspwWdWDCuYWhso&e=
>>>> /title/%255Bapi_support%255D_sanity_test_specification_for_
>>>> netbeans_api_support_functionality/
>>>>
>>>> Synergy is the test management tool that allows us to store multiple
>>>> revisions of the test specs for the different versions of the IDE. Also
>>>> to
>>>> record issues with test specs so that they can be fixed. And to create
>>>> test
>>>> runs, where manual testers are assigned (or volunteer for) tests to
>>>> execute. Synergy also allows the testers to record test results. Here is
>>>> an
>>>> example of a past test run (note that this run also contain tutorial
>>>> reviews):
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__services
>>>> .netbeans.org_synergy_client_app_index.html-23_run_24_v_2&
>>>> d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNb
>>>> sjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=gn5CRF2aKvP_bkGOt
>>>> -3dwUpQC22NphS4RD2xbQsPXLs&s=UkCnRWnxXWml8arsvpe_CHT3RNpYaQn
>>>> tg-WeV1demhg&e=
>>>>
>>>> ~ Hermien
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
On Jun 1, 2017 4:02 PM, "Raphael Bircher" <rb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Wade,
Am .06.2017, 21:24 Uhr, schrieb Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>:
So when everything is full on at Apache, how can this be managed,
> installed, changes applied etc? Where will the application project of
> Synergy live that makes it able to be used by the Apache organization or
> anyone else for that matter? The NeBeans domain will be Apache's if we are
> successful here.
>
There are tree possibilities.
1) Ask infra for a VM you can setup your tool there, and you can have a
subdomain for this tool. But you have to maintain the VM yourself.
OpenOffice got this for example for the PHPBB Forum and the MediaWiki
instance.
2) Find other projects on Apache who are interested in such a tool.
(OpenOffice might have interest too, I have to ask on the ML) And it could
be rolled out as an Apache wide service. This was the case for Pootle
(Translating service) as OpenOffice joined the ASF.
3) Use it as an outside service. But this contains the risk that the
service could be shut down if Oracle would left someday. Maybe not what you
want.
I guess my bigger point was around licensing and use. At the moment this is
in a repo only accessible under the netbeans domain if I understood
correctly, and run on Oracle infra, so where will it live as a
project/product which we can even access to install and setup. It seems
there are some licensing concerns/issues from the Oracle side, and I
imagine that would translate into issues for running it at the ASF too. How
do we have rights to do that if it isn't actually open sourced Jirka and Gj?
Thanks
Wade
Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi Wade,
Am .06.2017, 21:24 Uhr, schrieb Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>:
> So when everything is full on at Apache, how can this be managed,
> installed, changes applied etc? Where will the application project of
> Synergy live that makes it able to be used by the Apache organization or
> anyone else for that matter? The NeBeans domain will be Apache's if we
> are successful here.
There are tree possibilities.
1) Ask infra for a VM you can setup your tool there, and you can have a
subdomain for this tool. But you have to maintain the VM yourself.
OpenOffice got this for example for the PHPBB Forum and the MediaWiki
instance.
2) Find other projects on Apache who are interested in such a tool.
(OpenOffice might have interest too, I have to ask on the ML) And it could
be rolled out as an Apache wide service. This was the case for Pootle
(Translating service) as OpenOffice joined the ASF.
3) Use it as an outside service. But this contains the risk that the
service could be shut down if Oracle would left someday. Maybe not what
you want.
Regards, Raphael
--
My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
So when everything is full on at Apache, how can this be managed,
installed, changes applied etc? Where will the application project of
Synergy live that makes it able to be used by the Apache organization or
anyone else for that matter? The NeBeans domain will be Apache's if we are
successful here.
Thanks
Wade
On Jun 1, 2017 1:54 PM, "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Wade,
>
> yes, some dated version of Synergy sources are in the NetBeans SVN
> repository but I have asked Lada to remove sensitive/private data from his
> local version and commit it to our repository. Publishing on GitHub is
> unfortunately not an option due to Oracle ownership and hence licensing
> issues.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 31.5.2017 v 13:00 Wade Chandler napsal(a):
>
>> Jirka
>>
>> Is Synergy open sourced out in Github or else where? If I missed this in
>> my
>> reading apologies. If not, can it be?
>>
>> I have used this a lot, and very useful, but definitely not the same
>> Synergy :-)
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.
>> com_symless_synergy&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5
>> YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4
>> &m=DTNBeV41isNx5X1PKQCZMZpsOAfabaMZa2I8UyUDZ-Q&s=WbBtzDO-l9t
>> SHJyI9aZs4L0_bVWrJ1OuycQGMQF8aVg&e=
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wade
>>
>> On May 31, 2017 1:02 AM, "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes Emi, Synergy was developed by Vladimír Říha (an Oracle employee) and
>>> it is only used by Oracle as far as I know - now already by two projects
>>> (NetBeans and ABCS).
>>>
>>> I agree that it's a really great tool but I don't agree that you should
>>> feel bad about not knowing Synergy before. :)
>>>
>>> Here is the list of all important features which Synergy provides:
>>>
>>> * users/roles/tribes management
>>> * test specifications management including history
>>> * projects/versions/platforms management
>>> * tutorials reviews
>>> * progress tracking, calendar
>>> * automatic execution time measurement
>>> * executive views (coverage, statistics, summaries)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> -Jirka
>>>
>>> Dne 30.5.2017 v 22:31 Emilian Bold napsal(a):
>>>
>>> It's humbling that I'm only learning of this now. I should have joined
>>>
>>>> NetCAT...
>>>>
>>>> The tool looks very nice! I assume it's something custom made since I
>>>> can't
>>>> find any other reference to it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --emi
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Hermien Pellissier <
>>>> miena.moo@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is Synergy and what are the test specifications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me start with the second part of the question. The test specs
>>>>> contain
>>>>> test cases that are executed by manual testers to verify functionality.
>>>>> These test specs have been compiled by many different people over the
>>>>> years. The test specs did live on the wiki until Synergy was created.
>>>>> Here
>>>>> is a sample of one such a test spec in Synergy:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__services
>>>>> .netbeans.org_synergy_client_app_index.html-23&d=DwIBaQ&c=R
>>>>> oP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3
>>>>> cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=gn5CRF2aKvP_bkGOt-3dwUpQC22N
>>>>> phS4RD2xbQsPXLs&s=R7eTtc1FEJiEy7Lg_WrvjB01MOWDTspwWdWDCuYWhso&e=
>>>>> /title/%255Bapi_support%255D_sanity_test_specification_for_
>>>>> netbeans_api_support_functionality/
>>>>>
>>>>> Synergy is the test management tool that allows us to store multiple
>>>>> revisions of the test specs for the different versions of the IDE. Also
>>>>> to
>>>>> record issues with test specs so that they can be fixed. And to create
>>>>> test
>>>>> runs, where manual testers are assigned (or volunteer for) tests to
>>>>> execute. Synergy also allows the testers to record test results. Here
>>>>> is
>>>>> an
>>>>> example of a past test run (note that this run also contain tutorial
>>>>> reviews):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__services
>>>>> .netbeans.org_synergy_client_app_index.html-23_run_24_v_2&
>>>>> d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNb
>>>>> sjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=gn5CRF2aKvP_bkGOt
>>>>> -3dwUpQC22NphS4RD2xbQsPXLs&s=UkCnRWnxXWml8arsvpe_CHT3RNpYaQn
>>>>> tg-WeV1demhg&e=
>>>>>
>>>>> ~ Hermien
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>