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Release Masters?
Idea here would be to label someone as the "Release Master" for each
release. Responsibilities would include:
- Creating branches
- Managing release bugs
- Nagging people responsible for unfinished release items
- Creating the final release .zip and uploading it
- Announcing the release
- Ensuring that the release process wiki page is up-to-date
I think this would help make sure releases happen quicker and that release
tasks are not overlooked. It will also help with knowledge sharing I think.
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Great! Yes, I think it works well to have the parent bug should be assigned
to the release master.
I don't think anyone's been trying to base releases on features (aside from
3.0). Our releases have been slow due to the time it takes to test, and the
time it takes to go through all of the release steps for all of the
platforms.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help. I'd
> really love it if we got back to shipping to a date and not to any set
> of features, only finished work was being merged back to master, so
> cutting a release is a ceremony not a struggle.
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> > Idea here would be to label someone as the "Release Master" for each
> > release. Responsibilities would include:
> >
> > - Creating branches
> > - Managing release bugs
> > - Nagging people responsible for unfinished release items
> > - Creating the final release .zip and uploading it
> > - Announcing the release
> > - Ensuring that the release process wiki page is up-to-date
> >
> > I think this would help make sure releases happen quicker and that
> release
> > tasks are not overlooked. It will also help with knowledge sharing I
> think.
>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Ideally, all release steps are documented on the Wiki, and all progress
made during a release is reported in the release JIRA issues. So, I think
you'd get most of the way there by monitoring the issues & commits & read
the wiki. If there's anything you're in doubt about, then there's a good
chance you're not alone and an email to the list would be great :)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Is there any position for something like "Release/Component Apprentice"?
> :-)
> Just in case a Master wants to train, delegate, have someone to cover for
> vacation, or slap :-p, etc..
>
> I will be interested to be apprentice since I'm getting started in the
> community
> --Carlos
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks James!
> > Most of it is on the wiki, and is pretty straightforward:
> > Not surprisingly, I made OS X (almost) the same as iOS in structure as
> > well: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/IOSReleaseChecklist
> > Some of the task should be covered in the JIRA issues generated I think.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, James Jong <wj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Shaz, I haven't done it before but I'll be happy to work with you and
> > help
> > > when you're out for iOS & OS X. FYI for planning, I will be out & away
> > on
> > > vacation June 26-July 15.
> > > -James Jong
> > >
> > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
> > > >
> > > > If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can
> take
> > > over
> > > >> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second"
> in
> > > case
> > > >> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August).
> > Technically
> > > >> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and
> > > have
> > > >> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take
> over
> > > if
> > > >>> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
> > > >>> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of
> > > 'leads'
> > > >>>>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
> > > >>>> masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could
> > probably
> > > >> own
> > > >>>> the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
> > > >>>> looking to unload that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Santana
> <cs...@gmail.com>
>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Is there any position for something like "Release/Component Apprentice"? :-)
Just in case a Master wants to train, delegate, have someone to cover for
vacation, or slap :-p, etc..
I will be interested to be apprentice since I'm getting started in the
community
--Carlos
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks James!
> Most of it is on the wiki, and is pretty straightforward:
> Not surprisingly, I made OS X (almost) the same as iOS in structure as
> well: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/IOSReleaseChecklist
> Some of the task should be covered in the JIRA issues generated I think.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, James Jong <wj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Shaz, I haven't done it before but I'll be happy to work with you and
> help
> > when you're out for iOS & OS X. FYI for planning, I will be out & away
> on
> > vacation June 26-July 15.
> > -James Jong
> >
> > On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
> > >
> > > If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take
> > over
> > >> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in
> > case
> > >> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August).
> Technically
> > >> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and
> > have
> > >> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over
> > if
> > >>> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
> > >>> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
> > >>>
> > >>> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of
> > 'leads'
> > >>>>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
> > >>>> masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could
> probably
> > >> own
> > >>>> the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
> > >>>> looking to unload that.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
--
Carlos Santana
<cs...@gmail.com>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by James Jong <wj...@gmail.com>.
Sure thing. I'll use 2.9 as a dry run for me. FYI, I updated the broken links in the checklist that were pointing to incubator.
-James Jong
On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks James!
> Most of it is on the wiki, and is pretty straightforward:
> Not surprisingly, I made OS X (almost) the same as iOS in structure as
> well: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/IOSReleaseChecklist
> Some of the task should be covered in the JIRA issues generated I think.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, James Jong <wj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Shaz, I haven't done it before but I'll be happy to work with you and help
>> when you're out for iOS & OS X. FYI for planning, I will be out & away on
>> vacation June 26-July 15.
>> -James Jong
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
>>>
>>> If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take
>> over
>>>> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in
>> case
>>>> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August). Technically
>>>> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and
>> have
>>>> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over
>> if
>>>>> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
>>>>> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of
>> 'leads'
>>>>>>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
>>>>>> masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably
>>>> own
>>>>>> the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
>>>>>> looking to unload that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
Thanks James!
Most of it is on the wiki, and is pretty straightforward:
Not surprisingly, I made OS X (almost) the same as iOS in structure as
well: http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/IOSReleaseChecklist
Some of the task should be covered in the JIRA issues generated I think.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, James Jong <wj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shaz, I haven't done it before but I'll be happy to work with you and help
> when you're out for iOS & OS X. FYI for planning, I will be out & away on
> vacation June 26-July 15.
> -James Jong
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
> >
> > If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take
> over
> >> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in
> case
> >> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August). Technically
> >> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and
> have
> >> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over
> if
> >>> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
> >>> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
> >>>
> >>> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of
> 'leads'
> >>>>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
> >>>> masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably
> >> own
> >>>> the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
> >>>> looking to unload that.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by James Jong <wj...@gmail.com>.
Shaz, I haven't done it before but I'll be happy to work with you and help when you're out for iOS & OS X. FYI for planning, I will be out & away on vacation June 26-July 15.
-James Jong
On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
>
> If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take over
>> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in case
>> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August). Technically
>> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and have
>> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over if
>>> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
>>> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
>>>
>>> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
>>>>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
>>>>
>>>> Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
>>>> masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably
>> own
>>>> the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
>>>> looking to unload that.
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Okay, created a new release bug & sub-tasks here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3906
If you want to own a component, just assign it to yourself.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take over
> if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in case
> I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August). Technically
> anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and have
> the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over if
> > they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
> > features/improvements/wishes in that component..
> >
> > On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
> > >> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
> > >
> > >Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
> > >masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably
> own
> > >the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
> > >looking to unload that.
> >
> >
>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
Echoing Fil here. I am the 'lead' for iOS and OS X but anyone can take over
if they wish. What I'm interested in is who should be the "second" in case
I can't do it (for example I am away almost all of August). Technically
anyone can take over but it will be nice if they are up to speed and have
the necessary environment to test as a 'second'..
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over if
> they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
> features/improvements/wishes in that component..
>
> On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
> >> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
> >
> >Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
> >masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably own
> >the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
> >looking to unload that.
>
>
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>.
I am the "lead" for cordova-js in JIRA that anyone else can take over if
they wish. My focus is more on the tooling nowadays. Lots of
features/improvements/wishes in that component..
On 6/18/13 9:02 AM, "Marcel Kinard" <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
>> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
>> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
>
>Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release
>masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably own
>the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is
>looking to unload that.
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Marcel Kinard <cm...@gmail.com>.
On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
> but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help.
Do all the components leads (as listed in Jira) want to be release masters for their components? If not, James Jong and I could probably own the "release master" role for a component each, in case any one is looking to unload that.
Re: Release Masters?
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
Think we already have this as per the issue tracker concept of 'leads'
but I do agree formalizing the role a little more would help. I'd
really love it if we got back to shipping to a date and not to any set
of features, only finished work was being merged back to master, so
cutting a release is a ceremony not a struggle.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Idea here would be to label someone as the "Release Master" for each
> release. Responsibilities would include:
>
> - Creating branches
> - Managing release bugs
> - Nagging people responsible for unfinished release items
> - Creating the final release .zip and uploading it
> - Announcing the release
> - Ensuring that the release process wiki page is up-to-date
>
> I think this would help make sure releases happen quicker and that release
> tasks are not overlooked. It will also help with knowledge sharing I think.