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[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca component
into a business process
BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
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Key: TUSCANY-1542
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
Project: Tuscany
Issue Type: Wish
Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
Reporter: gengshaoguang
What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
Thanks.
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[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "Jean-Sebastien Delfino (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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Jean-Sebastien Delfino commented on TUSCANY-1542:
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The work started under java/sca/modules/implementation-bpel is about implementing what's described in the SCA Client and Implementation Model Spec for WS-BPEL [1].
Could you please explain why you think this work is different from what's described in the spec or not covering what you're looking for?
Thanks.
[1] http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100.pdf?version=1
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "gengshaoguang (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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gengshaoguang commented on TUSCANY-1542:
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My point is:
SCA_ClinetAndImplementationforBPEL_V100 mentioned relation between SCA and BPEL as:
1. SCA->BPEL
2. BPEL->SCA
Our implementation-bpel module works as the first one.
The second one should be a module inside the BPEL runtime not inside Tuscany.
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Resolved: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "Luciano Resende (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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Luciano Resende resolved TUSCANY-1542.
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Resolution: Fixed
BPEL Service and Reference available in trunk.
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Assignee: Luciano Resende
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "gengshaoguang (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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gengshaoguang commented on TUSCANY-1542:
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Hi, I am not really confident absolutly.
So, I may need to discuss this with you here.
For my second point(BPEL-SCA), I understood the SPEC. as BPEL need to have a extension (just as ibm's BPEL extension for people). But do you think these extension should be a responsibility of the BPEL engine?
One thing I'm sure is we need to embedded a BPEL engin in Tuscany. But without changes, the engine will not know these entension(SCA).
My suggestion is this extension should be much delicate that it is independent to Tuscany, in these case, I might be used not only in ODE, but also others like ActiveBPEL.
Best Regart
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Assigned: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "Luciano Resende (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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Luciano Resende reassigned TUSCANY-1542:
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Assignee: Luciano Resende
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Assignee: Luciano Resende
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "gengshaoguang (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12520145 ]
gengshaoguang commented on TUSCANY-1542:
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They are different!
SCA has specified BPEL from to direction, one is implement a component as a BPEL. Another is to invoke SCA component from BPEL side. I metioned BPEL can invoke and WS, but it is narrowly used since it's performance is slow, so we need to extend a bpel engin to make it interact direct with SCA BINDING (from bpel's partnerlink to a sca component).
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca
component into a business process
Posted by "Luciano Resende (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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Luciano Resende commented on TUSCANY-1542:
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We have started this under java/sca/modules/implementation.bpel.
Any help is appreciated
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-1542) BPEL extension to link sca component
into a business process
Posted by "Jean-Sebastien Delfino (JIRA)" <tu...@ws.apache.org>.
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Jean-Sebastien Delfino updated TUSCANY-1542:
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Component/s: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> BPEL extension to link sca component into a business process
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: TUSCANY-1542
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1542
> Project: Tuscany
> Issue Type: Wish
> Components: Java SCA BPEL Implementation Extension
> Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next
> Reporter: gengshaoguang
> Fix For: Java-SCA-Next
>
>
> What I expect next is: extend a bpel engine, make it interact with Tuscany's sca binding. Of course any bpel engine might link wsdl naturaly. But in the latter case, we make no improvement to SOA tech. BPEL->SCA should work in a more direct way and more effect way. I think SCA_ClinetAndImplementationModelforBPEL_V100 has specified relevants at section 1.4 .
> I open this issue to arouse collaboration from all of you.
> Thanks.
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