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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> on 2005/07/25 08:14:59 UTC

Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

sc2.surbl.org, the improved version of the SpamCop SURBL list, is
ready for testing.  So is the new version of xs.surbl.org, which
is now more accurate, has far fewer FPs, etc.

sc2 adds resolved IP checks, meaning sites hosted on the same
networks are detected immediately upon the first report.  It also
means that folks should continue to use SpamCop reporting if they
want to contribute to a very powerful SURBL list.  Your SpamCop
reports now have even more power in sc2.  In cases of the worst
spammers, SpamCop reporting leads to essentially immediate
listing in sc2.

sc2 is on about 15 public nameservers and xs is on 22.  That's
probably not enough for running large production servers on, but
it should be plenty for corpus checks and mail servers with small
to medium message volumes.

If you have rsync access to the SURBL zone files you can also
mirror the files locally for testing of course.  The sc2 and xs
zones are currently available via rsync. (If you have a large
volume mail server, please apply for rsync access so that you can
mirror the zone files locally: http://www3.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
and offload the public nameservers.)

After sc2 is tested for a while we will turn it into the
production sc.surbl.org list, assuming it has better performance
than the current list, which seems quite likely.  At that point
sc2 will go away, since it will have become sc.

xs may go into the 128th bit of multi.surbl.org if it tests well.

Please test sc2 and the revised xs and let us know how they
perform for you.  Those with large spam and ham corpora (such as
the SpamAssassin developers) are encouraged to test and please
let us know.


Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


SpamAssassin 2.64 rules and scores using SpamCopURI 0.22 or later look like this:

uri       SC2_URI_RBL  eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('sc2.surbl.org','127.0.0.2')
describe  SC2_URI_RBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    SC2_URI_RBL  net

score     SC2_URI_RBL  3.0

uri       XS_URI_RBL   eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('xs.surbl.org','127.0.0.2')
describe  XS_URI_RBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    XS_URI_RBL   net

score     XS_URI_RBL   2.0


Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
OK the prior rules were still wrong.  These will work:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

Lints just fine on our SA3 with A and no addresses or numbers.
(A is preferred over TXT.)

Note that we're using urirhsbl not urirhssub since sc2.surbl.org
and xs.surbl.org are standalone lists (for testing) and not part of
multi.surbl.org.

These lists will eventually go away as standalone lists, to very
likely go into multi instead.  Then you'll need to delete the sc2
rule and change xs to urirhssub and multi.  We'll send an
official announcement on the SURBL announcement list when this
actually happens: 

  http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

Until then, please test sc2 and xs and let us know how they work
for you.

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Martin Hepworth <ma...@solid-state-logic.com>.
jdow wrote:
> From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
> Is this correct as ammended? I added the "TXT" strings
> 
> 
>>Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:
>>
> 
> 
> urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   TXT
> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
> 
> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
> 
> urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.   TXT
> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
> 
> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0
> 
> 
> This passes lint, at least.
> 
> {^_^}
> 
> 
Another --lint test pass on this one, and both Jeff's varients fail to 
parse on SA 3.0.4 for me.

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Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:06:10 PM, jdow jdow wrote:
> From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>

>> On Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:33:08 AM, jdow jdow wrote:
>> > From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
>> > Is this correct as ammended? I added the "TXT" strings
>>
>> >> Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two
> lists:
>>
>> Please try:
>>
>> urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
>> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
>> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at
> http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
>> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>>
>> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>>
>> urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
>> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
>> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
>> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>>
>> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

> config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
> URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
> config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
> URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2


> Note that it passes if I use TXT.

> {^_^}


Did you see my follow up message?  "A" without anything after it
should work.  It worked on my SA3.  TXT will also work, but A is
preferred. 

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>

> On Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:33:08 AM, jdow jdow wrote:
> > From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
> > Is this correct as ammended? I added the "TXT" strings
>
> >> Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two
lists:
>
> Please try:
>
> urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>
> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>
> urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>
> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2


Note that it passes if I use TXT.

{^_^}



Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:33:08 AM, jdow jdow wrote:
> From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
> Is this correct as ammended? I added the "TXT" strings

>> Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:

Please try:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
Is this correct as ammended? I added the "TXT" strings

> Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:
>

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   TXT
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.   TXT
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


This passes lint, at least.

{^_^}



Re: runaway processes

Posted by Tom Gwilt <tg...@suite224.net>.
My setup is as follows:

FreeBSD 4.10, SpamAssassin 3.0.4, Perl 5.8

Using Bayes and a pile 'o SARE rules.

It scanned 34484 messages last night and the only time we see lags is when 
the bayes database is expiring.

The startup script is as follows:

/usr/local/bin/spamd --max-children=6 --max-conn-per-child=20 -d -x -u
daemon -s local0"

HTH,

Tom

Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 04:25:20PM -0700, jdow wrote:

>>>From the last few days:
>> 
>>   SURBL              Hits
>>   --------------- -------
>>   URIBL_PH_SURBL        3
>>   URIBL_AB_SURBL    5,342 
>>   URIBL_XS_SURBL    3,529
>>   URIBL_JP_SURBL   14,423 
>>   URIBL_SC2_SURBL   5,681
>>   URIBL_OB_SURBL   11,742
>>   URIBL_SC_SURBL    5,097
>>   URIBL_WS_SURBL    9,931

> It sure would help to know how may of those hits were on ham vice spam.

Very little is hitting on ham.

Email:    11881  Autolearn:     0  AvgScore: -51.29  AvgScanTime:  1.72 sec
Spam:      3004  Autolearn:     0  AvgScore:  21.54  AvgScanTime:  2.01 sec
Ham:       8877  Autolearn:     0  AvgScore: -75.93  AvgScanTime:  1.62 sec

Time Spent Running SA:         5.67 hours
Time Spent Processing Spam:    1.68 hours
Time Spent Processing Ham:     4.00 hours

TOP SPAM RULES FIRED
------------------------------------------------------------
RANK    RULE NAME                       COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
------------------------------------------------------------
   1    HTML_MESSAGE                     2325     6.68   19.57   77.40   52.03
   2    URIBL_SBL                        1949     5.60   16.40   64.88    0.16
   3    DCC_CHECK                        1936     5.56   16.29   64.45    1.03
   4    URIBL_JP_SURBL                   1815     5.21   15.28   60.42    0.02
   5    URIBL_OB_SURBL                   1636     4.70   13.77   54.46    0.26
   6    URIBL_WS_SURBL                   1208     3.47   10.17   40.21    0.01
   7    MIME_HTML_ONLY                    970     2.79    8.16   32.29    3.68
   8    SKX_UNKNOWN_RECEIVED              863     2.48    7.26   28.73   12.88
   9    URIBL_SC2_SURBL                   801     2.30    6.74   26.66    0.00
  10    HTML_90_100                       741     2.13    6.24   24.67    7.16
  11    URIBL_SC_SURBL                    659     1.89    5.55   21.94    0.00
  12    URIBL_AB_SURBL                    631     1.81    5.31   21.01    0.00
  13    URIBL_XS_SURBL                    620     1.78    5.22   20.64    0.01
  14    DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL               582     1.67    4.90   19.37    0.55
  15    HTML_FONT_INVISIBLE               446     1.28    3.75   14.85    0.29
  16    RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL                 435     1.25    3.66   14.48    0.18
  17    SKX_X                             416     1.19    3.50   13.85    1.01
  18    SKX_FREE                          362     1.04    3.05   12.05    3.09
  19    RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL                 343     0.99    2.89   11.42    0.19
  20    HTML_WEB_BUGS                     337     0.97    2.84   11.22    0.69
------------------------------------------------------------

TOP HAM RULES FIRED
------------------------------------------------------------
RANK    RULE NAME                       COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
------------------------------------------------------------
   1    USER_IN_WHITELIST                6887    25.62   57.97    0.00   77.58
   2    HTML_MESSAGE                     4619    17.19   38.88   77.40   52.03
   3    SKX_UNKNOWN_RECEIVED             1143     4.25    9.62   28.73   12.88
   4    NO_REAL_NAME                     1088     4.05    9.16    8.72   12.26
   5    HTML_90_100                       636     2.37    5.35   24.67    7.16
   6    HTML_FONT_BIG                     615     2.29    5.18    7.86    6.93
   7    HTML_30_40                        536     1.99    4.51    2.03    6.04
   8    DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE                520     1.93    4.38    9.65    5.86
   9    HTML_50_60                        479     1.78    4.03    3.36    5.40
  10    HTML_60_70                        462     1.72    3.89    6.52    5.20
  11    HTML_40_50                        450     1.67    3.79    6.76    5.07
  12    DNS_FROM_RFC_POST                 448     1.67    3.77    8.22    5.05
  13    SUBJ_ALL_CAPS                     354     1.32    2.98    0.63    3.99
  14    UPPERCASE_25_50                   352     1.31    2.96    0.63    3.97
  15    MIME_HTML_ONLY                    327     1.22    2.75   32.29    3.68
  16    HTML_20_30                        327     1.22    2.75    0.70    3.68
  17    MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR               297     1.11    2.50    0.90    3.35
  18    SKX_FREE                          274     1.02    2.31   12.05    3.09
  19    HOT_NASTY                         261     0.97    2.20    0.77    2.94
  20    USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO              212     0.79    1.78    0.07    2.39
------------------------------------------------------------

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Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>
When I was a little kid we had a sand box. It was a quicksand box. I was
an only child... eventually. 
- Steven Wright 

Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
It sure would help to know how may of those hits were on ham vice spam.
{^_^}
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clay Irving" <cl...@panix.com>


> >From the last few days:
> 
>   SURBL              Hits
>   --------------- -------
>   URIBL_PH_SURBL        3
>   URIBL_AB_SURBL    5,342 
>   URIBL_XS_SURBL    3,529
>   URIBL_JP_SURBL   14,423 
>   URIBL_SC2_SURBL   5,681
>   URIBL_OB_SURBL   11,742
>   URIBL_SC_SURBL    5,097
>   URIBL_WS_SURBL    9,931
>  
> -- 
> Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>
> You know my motto: Forgive and uh... the other thing.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>.
>From the last few days:

  SURBL              Hits
  --------------- -------
  URIBL_PH_SURBL        3
  URIBL_AB_SURBL    5,342 
  URIBL_XS_SURBL    3,529
  URIBL_JP_SURBL   14,423 
  URIBL_SC2_SURBL   5,681
  URIBL_OB_SURBL   11,742
  URIBL_SC_SURBL    5,097
  URIBL_WS_SURBL    9,931
 
-- 
Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>
You know my motto: Forgive and uh... the other thing. 

RE: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Sander Holthaus - Orange XL <in...@orangexl.com>.
>From the last three days:

SpamAssassinRuleHits for SPAM (score 10 and higher): 
                        BAYES_99  ( 95%)
                    RAZOR2_CHECK  ( 90%)
          RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100  ( 85%)
                 DIGEST_MULTIPLE  ( 74%)
                     URIBL_BLACK  ( 72%)
                    HTML_MESSAGE  ( 71%)
                       DCC_CHECK  ( 66%)
                  URIBL_OB_SURBL  ( 60%)
                  URIBL_JP_SURBL  ( 60%)
                  URIBL_WS_SURBL  ( 57%)
                 URIBL_SC2_SURBL  ( 57%)  <--
                     PYZOR_CHECK  ( 55%)
                       URIBL_SBL  ( 52%)
                  URIBL_SC_SURBL  ( 50%)
                  URIBL_XS_SURBL  ( 44%)  <--
                  URIBL_AB_SURBL  ( 43%)
                  MIME_HTML_ONLY  ( 40%)
               RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL  ( 39%)
             FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS  ( 31%)
               RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL  ( 30%)

Kind Regards,
Sander Holthaus


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Chris <cp...@earthlink.net>.
On Monday 25 July 2005 01:14 am, Jeff Chan wrote:

> Please test sc2 and the revised xs and let us know how they
> perform for you.  Those with large spam and ham corpora (such as
> the SpamAssassin developers) are encouraged to test and please
> let us know.

Although I don't have a large amount of mail received at my home system, SC2 
is scoring fairly well:

TOP SPAM RULES FIRED
------------------------------------------------------------
RANK    RULE NAME                       COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
------------------------------------------------------------
   1    PYZOR_CHECK                       130     5.87   71.04  100.00  100.00
   2    DIGEST_MULTIPLE                   119     5.38   65.03   91.54    0.00
   3    RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100            116     5.24   63.39   89.23    0.00
   4    RAZOR2_CHECK                      116     5.24   63.39   89.23    0.00
   5    BAYES_99                          112     5.06   61.20   86.15    0.00
   6    URIBL_JP_SURBL                     79     3.57   43.17   60.77    0.00
   7    DCC_CHECK                          73     3.30   39.89   56.15    0.00
   8    URIBL_SC2_SURBL                    71     3.21   38.80   54.62    0.00
   9    URIBL_OB_SURBL                     70     3.16   38.25   53.85    0.00
  10    HTML_MESSAGE                       66     2.98   36.07   50.77    7.55
  11    URIBL_AB_SURBL                     63     2.85   34.43   48.46    0.00
  12    URIBL_SC_SURBL                     56     2.53   30.60   43.08    0.00
  13    URIBL_SBL                          56     2.53   30.60   43.08    0.00
  14    URIBL_XS_SURBL                     56     2.53   30.60   43.08    0.00
  15    RCVD_IN_XBL                        55     2.49   30.05   42.31    0.00
  16    RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET             50     2.26   27.32   38.46    0.00
  17    URIBL_WS_SURBL                     46     2.08   25.14   35.38    0.00
  18    RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO                  35     1.58   19.13   26.92    0.00
  19    RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL                  30     1.36   16.39   23.08    0.00
  20    DNS_FROM_RFC_POST                  30     1.36   16.39   23.08    5.66

Chris

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Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
OK the prior rules were still wrong.  These will work:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

Lints just fine on our SA3 with A and no addresses or numbers.
(A is preferred over TXT.)

Note that we're using urirhsbl not urirhssub since sc2.surbl.org
and xs.surbl.org are standalone lists (for testing) and not part of
multi.surbl.org.

These lists will eventually go away as standalone lists, to very
likely go into multi instead.  Then you'll need to delete the sc2
rule and change xs to urirhssub and multi.  We'll send an
official announcement on the SURBL announcement list when this
actually happens: 

  http://lists.surbl.org/mailman/listinfo/announce

Until then, please test sc2 and xs and let us know how they work
for you.

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
jdow pointed out problems with the prior rules for SA 3.0.1+.
These ones should work:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
jdow pointed out problems with the prior rules for SA 3.0.1+.
These ones should work:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 08:58:30PM -0700, jdow wrote:

>> I added them yesterday, and I've had no hits. I am hitting other SURBLs:
> 
> Did you restart spamd?

Yes. My "no hits" is attributed to bad analysis. :)

  XS  2,698 times
  JP 12,251 times
 XS2  4,733 times

-- 
Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>
The Stones, I love the Stones.  I watch them whenever I can.  Fred, Barney...
- Steven Wright 

Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Clay Irving" <cl...@panix.com>

> I added them yesterday, and I've had no hits. I am hitting other SURBLs:

Did you restart spamd?
{^_^}


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Thursday, July 28, 2005, 12:29:49 AM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
> Hi!

>> I added them yesterday, and I've had no hits. I am hitting other SURBLs:
>>
>>  URIBL_AB_SURBL  1,345 times
>>  URIBL_OB_SURBL  2,982 times
>>  URIBL_SC_SURBL  2,564 times
>>  URIBL_WS_SURBL  1,111 times

> You dont use URIBL_JP_SURBL ? You might wanna add that one.

> Bye,
> Raymond.

LOL You're so helpful!  :-)

How is the SC2 list working for you?

I have a feeling I'm going to ask you to process the XS data with
your JP servers (i.e. add it as a feed for JP), but I need to
get the benchmarking working first.

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>.
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 09:13:38PM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote:

> That will work, but it's technically incorrect since the
> standalone lists sc2 and xs aren't bitmask-encoded, which is what
> urirhssub is intended for.  Standalone lists should be used with
> urirhsbl, so correct, working rules for these are:
> 
> 
> urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A
> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
> 
> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
> 
> urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A
> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
> 
> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0
> 
> 
> Please give them a try and let us know how they work for you.

I added them yesterday, and I've had no hits. I am hitting other SURBLs:

  URIBL_AB_SURBL  1,345 times
  URIBL_OB_SURBL  2,982 times
  URIBL_SC_SURBL  2,564 times
  URIBL_WS_SURBL  1,111 times

-- 
Clay Irving <cl...@panix.com>
RECONCILIATION, n. A suspension of hostilities. An armed truce for the
purpose of digging up the dead. 
- Ambrose Bierce

Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Tim Litwiller <ti...@litwiller.net>.
Jeff Chan wrote:

>On Monday, July 25, 2005, 3:11:40 PM, Tim Litwiller wrote:
>  
>
>>this is what it took to make it work for me
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>_urirhssub_ URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
>>body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
>>describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
>>tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>>score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>_urirhssub_ URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
>>body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
>>describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
>>tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>>score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0
>>    
>>
>
>That will work, but it's technically incorrect since the
>standalone lists sc2 and xs aren't bitmask-encoded, which is what
>urirhssub is intended for.  Standalone lists should be used with
>urirhsbl, so correct, working rules for these are:
>
>
>urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A
>body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
>describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
>tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>
>score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>
>urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A
>body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
>describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
>tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>
>score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0
>
>
>Please give them a try and let us know how they work for you.
>
>Jeff C.
>  
>
that works now - either something changed or I did something wrong earlier.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Monday, July 25, 2005, 3:11:40 PM, Tim Litwiller wrote:
> this is what it took to make it work for me

> _urirhssub_ URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

> _urirhssub_ URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

That will work, but it's technically incorrect since the
standalone lists sc2 and xs aren't bitmask-encoded, which is what
urirhssub is intended for.  Standalone lists should be used with
urirhsbl, so correct, working rules for these are:


urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


Please give them a try and let us know how they work for you.

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Tim Litwiller <ti...@litwiller.net>.
jdow wrote:

>From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
>
>  
>
>>Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:
>>
>>urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
>>body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
>>describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at
>>    
>>
>http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
>  
>
>>tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>>
>>score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>>
>>urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
>>body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
>>describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
>>tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>>
>>score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0
>>    
>>
>
>config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
>URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
>config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
>URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
>
>Debug on:
>debug: plugin: registered
>Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0xa4b3a18)
>debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF from @INC
>debug: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0xa4b50ec)
>debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa4c8efc)
>implements 'parse_config'
>debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0xa4b3a18)
>implements 'parse_config'
>config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
>URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
>config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
>URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
>
>
>Er - oops. 3.04
>{^_^}
>
>
>  
>
this is what it took to make it work for me

_urirhssub_ URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.   A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

_urirhssub_ URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.    A    127.0.0.2
body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>

> Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:
>
> urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
> body      URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at
http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
> tflags    URIBL_SC2_SURBL  net
>
> score     URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0
>
> urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
> body      URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
> describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
> tflags    URIBL_XS_SURBL   net
>
> score     URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0

config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.

Debug on:
debug: plugin: registered
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0xa4b3a18)
debug: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF from @INC
debug: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF=HASH(0xa4b50ec)
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::URIDNSBL=HASH(0xa4c8efc)
implements 'parse_config'
debug: plugin: Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash=HASH(0xa4b3a18)
implements 'parse_config'
config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: urirhsbl
URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.


Er - oops. 3.04
{^_^}



Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
Some stats from one of our SA servers.  After about two days we
had:

  9076  SURBL hits
  5373  SC2 hits
  4813  SC hits
  1148  SC2 hits that did not also hit SC
   588  SC hits that did not also hit SC2
  3701  XS hits
  1890  SC2 hits that did not hit XS
   218  XS hits that did not hit SC2

So it looks like sc2 hit about 10% more messages than SC.

Of the other lists:

  7779  JP
  6781  OB
  5798  WS
  4691  AB
     7  PH

This is without analysis of FPs.

Would be very interested to hear how these new lists test out
SpamAssassin corpora, or any other corpora or mail servers for
that matter.

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.


Re: Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
Some stats from one of our SA servers.  After about two days we
had:

  9076  SURBL hits
  5373  SC2 hits
  4813  SC hits
  1148  SC2 hits that did not also hit SC
   588  SC hits that did not also hit SC2
  3701  XS hits
  1890  SC2 hits that did not hit XS
   218  XS hits that did not hit SC2

So it looks like sc2 hit about 10% more messages than SC.

Of the other lists:

  7779  JP
  6781  OB
  5798  WS
  4691  AB
     7  PH

This is without analysis of FPs.

Would be very interested to hear how these new lists test out
SpamAssassin corpora, or any other corpora or mail servers for
that matter.

Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.