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Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Hi,
I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1 XenServer 6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200 GB) and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to store the volume snapshots of my instances..
Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or via Cloudstack APIs??
Regards,
Yohan
Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Andrija is spot on here nd in addition once a snapshot chain has started using a particular sec storage all snapshots linked to that VM volume will always use the same sec storage.
New snapshots will randomly select a sec storage and I believe the available capacity is not taken into account - it's truly random
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect
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On 28 Nov 2014, at 07:57, Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary
storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l
PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are
replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is
not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course
snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS
servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1 XenServer
6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200 GB)
and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to store the
volume snapshots of my instances..
Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or via
Cloudstack APIs??
Regards,
Yohan
--
Andrija Pani?
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RE: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Suggest that is a question for the Dev List
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wadia, Yohan [mailto:ywadia@virtela.net]
Sent: 28 November 2014 09:30
To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Thanks for the info Geoff...
Had one last question: Can this random placing of snapshots on multiple sec stores be changed/ modified?? It must be coded in java/ script file right??
Regards
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 14:29
To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Assuming you are not already using the new one, simply take the old one offline, copy all the data to the new device nd then configure if with the same IP as the original then bring it back on line etc
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect
D: +44 20 3603 0542<tel:+442036030542> | S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel:+442036030540> | M: +447968161581<tel:+447968161581>
geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com<ma...@shapeblue.com> | www.shapeblue.com<htp://www.shapeblue.com/> | Twitter:@cloudstackguru<https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru>
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On 28 Nov 2014, at 08:39, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Thanks Andrija and Geoff for the info...
Just want your opinion on this:
Is there any way/ steps to transfer data (volumes/ Snapshots/ Templates) from the first Sec Store (60GB) over to the new Sec Store (200GB); assuming I want my new Sec Store to be the only Secondary Storage available for the Zone??
Right now I have 3 VMs running in the environment besides the SSVM and the Console Proxy VM..
Thanks
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.panic@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 13:26
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1 XenServer
6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200
GB) and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to store the volume snapshots of my instances..
Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or via Cloudstack APIs??
Regards,
Yohan
--
Andrija Pani?
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
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RE: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by "Wadia, Yohan" <yw...@virtela.net>.
Thanks for the info Geoff...
Had one last question: Can this random placing of snapshots on multiple sec stores be changed/ modified?? It must be coded in java/ script file right??
Regards
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 14:29
To: <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Assuming you are not already using the new one, simply take the old one offline, copy all the data to the new device nd then configure if with the same IP as the original then bring it back on line etc
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect
D: +44 20 3603 0542<tel:+442036030542> | S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel:+442036030540> | M: +447968161581<tel:+447968161581>
geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com<ma...@shapeblue.com> | www.shapeblue.com<htp://www.shapeblue.com/> | Twitter:@cloudstackguru<https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru>
ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS<x-apple-data-detectors://5>
On 28 Nov 2014, at 08:39, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Thanks Andrija and Geoff for the info...
Just want your opinion on this:
Is there any way/ steps to transfer data (volumes/ Snapshots/ Templates) from the first Sec Store (60GB) over to the new Sec Store (200GB); assuming I want my new Sec Store to be the only Secondary Storage available for the Zone??
Right now I have 3 VMs running in the environment besides the SSVM and the Console Proxy VM..
Thanks
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.panic@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 13:26
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1 XenServer
6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200
GB) and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to store the volume snapshots of my instances..
Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or via Cloudstack APIs??
Regards,
Yohan
--
Andrija Pani?
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
CSForge - rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
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Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Assuming you are not already using the new one, simply take the old one offline, copy all the data to the new device nd then configure if with the same IP as the original then bring it back on line etc
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect
D: +44 20 3603 0542<tel:+442036030542> | S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel:+442036030540> | M: +447968161581<tel:+447968161581>
geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com<ma...@shapeblue.com> | www.shapeblue.com<htp://www.shapeblue.com/> | Twitter:@cloudstackguru<https://twitter.com/#!/cloudstackguru>
ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS<x-apple-data-detectors://5>
On 28 Nov 2014, at 08:39, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Thanks Andrija and Geoff for the info...
Just want your opinion on this:
Is there any way/ steps to transfer data (volumes/ Snapshots/ Templates) from the first Sec Store (60GB) over to the new Sec Store (200GB); assuming I want my new Sec Store to be the only Secondary Storage available for the Zone??
Right now I have 3 VMs running in the environment besides the SSVM and the Console Proxy VM..
Thanks
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.panic@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 13:26
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1
XenServer
6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200
GB) and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to
store the volume snapshots of my instances..
Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or
via Cloudstack APIs??
Regards,
Yohan
--
Andrija Pani?
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
CSForge - rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
RE: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by "Wadia, Yohan" <yw...@virtela.net>.
Thanks Andrija and Geoff for the info...
Just want your opinion on this:
Is there any way/ steps to transfer data (volumes/ Snapshots/ Templates) from the first Sec Store (60GB) over to the new Sec Store (200GB); assuming I want my new Sec Store to be the only Secondary Storage available for the Zone??
Right now I have 3 VMs running in the environment besides the SSVM and the Console Proxy VM..
Thanks
Yohan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.panic@gmail.com]
Sent: 28 November 2014 13:26
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1
> XenServer
> 6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
> The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
> I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200
> GB) and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to
> store the volume snapshots of my instances..
> Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or
> via Cloudstack APIs??
>
> Regards,
> Yohan
>
>
--
Andrija Panić
Re: Place Volume Snapshots on a different Secondary Storage
Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
Hi Yohan,
if I'm not mistaken, you can not do that this way. The way secondary
storage works when you have more than 1 secondary storage NFS - is that l
PUBLIC stuff (ISOs, TEMPLATES that are defined as not private) - are
replicated across ALL secondary storage NFS servers. Private stuff (that is
not defined as public) - so private ISOs, private TEMPLATES, and of course
snapshots, are randomly distributed across all secondary storage NFS
servers...
Hope this clears things.
Cheers
On 28 November 2014 at 05:41, Wadia, Yohan <yw...@virtela.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Cloudstack 4.2 setup running in my Lab.. 1 Zone with 1 XenServer
> 6.1 host and 1 Secondary Storage (NFS)..
> The space on this secondary storage is approx 60 GB..
> I am planning to add a second Secondary Storage to the Zone (NFS : 200 GB)
> and want to dedicate this new Sec Store as the default place to store the
> volume snapshots of my instances..
> Can this be configured in any way via Cloudstack's Global Settings or via
> Cloudstack APIs??
>
> Regards,
> Yohan
>
>
--
Andrija Panić