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Placing external graphics
Hi,
I'm having some issues with the placement of images with external-graphic.
The graphic (a jpeg) is being inserted into a text flow in one column of
a two column page layout (i.e., it's not meant to spread across multiple
text columns). What happens, is that the correct amount of whitespace is
reserved for the image, but the bottom of the image is aligned with the
top of where it should be, so the image overwrites the text paragraph
immediately above it.
This is happening with several of the inserted images (the one that
works is quite small).
I'm using FOP 0.95 on Linux (Ubuntu 11.4). On a previous computer, using
theoretically the same stylesheets and FOP version, the images seemed to be
placed correctly, so I'm not sure what's changed.
The XML looks something like this:
<fo:block font-size="10pt" font-family="Times" line-height="12pt"
space-after="10pt">
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
</fo:block>
<fo:block space-after="0pt" space-before="0px" text-align="center">
<fo:external-graphic src="images/sizes.jpg"
display-align="center" content-width="60mm"/>
</fo:block>
<fo:block font-size="10pt" font-family="Times" line-height="12pt"
space-after="10pt">
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
</fo:block>
What renders, is the first paragraph, the image overlaid on top of
it, a chunk of whitespace (equal in size to the image), then the
second paragraph.
There's an image of the output here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-T-EK3oVgCrkfc4aUie6HQ?feat=directlink
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks.
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Vincent Hennebert <vh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Samuel,
You have already figured out how to avoid the problem, but FYI, what you
are witnessing is the result of a bug in the code that handles pages of
different widths (the infamous Changing IPD feature). That bug appears
to have been fixed in Trunk but I don’t remember when.
Unless you have a good reason for wanting pages of different widths
I advise you to make sure that the widths of the region-body on all your
pages match. That is, make sure that the following operation:
page-width
− margin-left and margin-right on the simple-page-master
− margin-left and margin-right on the region-body
gives the same result for all your pages.
HTH,
Vincent
On 16/12/11 10:53, Samuel Penn wrote:
> On Friday 16 December 2011 10:17:32 Pascal Sancho wrote:
>> Hi Samuel,
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean by "if I take 1mm off the left margin
>> on right hand pages..."
>> Can you provide a short snippet to illustrate, please?
>
> Take the following definitions for left and right pages (these can be
> plugged into the test.fo that Luis posted):
>
> <fo:simple-page-master master-name="leftPage" page-height="297mm" page-
> width="210mm" margin-top="15mm" margin-bottom="15mm" margin-left="15mm"
> margin-right="30mm">
> <fo:region-body margin-left="20mm" margin-right="21mm"/>
> <fo:region-before extent="15mm" region-name="region-before-left"/>
> <fo:region-after extent="10mm" region-name="region-after-left"/>
> <fo:region-start extent="20mm"/>
> <fo:region-end extent="10mm"/>
> </fo:simple-page-master>
>
> <fo:simple-page-master master-name="rightPage" page-height="297mm" page-
> width="210mm" margin-top="15mm" margin-bottom="15mm" margin-left="30mm"
> margin-right="15mm">
> <fo:region-body margin-left="21mm" margin-right="20mm"/>
> <fo:region-before extent="16mm" region-name="region-before-right"/>
> <fo:region-after extent="10mm" region-name="region-after-right"/>
> <fo:region-start extent="20mm"/>
> <fo:region-end extent="10mm"/>
> </fo:simple-page-master>
>
>
> Both are balanced, in that the margin-right/margin-left for both
> the simple-page-master and region-body mirror each other for the
> left and right pages. In this case, images are placed correctly.
>
> Concentrating on the following lines:
>
> left: <fo:region-body margin-left="20mm" margin-right="21mm"/>
> right: <fo:region-body margin-left="21mm" margin-right="20mm"/>
>
>
> If I change the margin-right for the left page to be 22mm, then the
> images are incorrectly placed on 2nd and subsequent pages (the problem
> that I was seeing).
>
> If I also update the margin-left for the right page to be 22mm
> however, then images are correctly placed again.
>
> There seems to be a similar constraint for the simple-page-master
> margins, in that left page needs to mirror right page. Changing
> the margins on one page (but not the other) breaks the images again.
>
>
> Am I making sense?
>
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
On Friday 16 December 2011 10:17:32 Pascal Sancho wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
>
> I don't understand what you mean by "if I take 1mm off the left margin
> on right hand pages..."
> Can you provide a short snippet to illustrate, please?
Take the following definitions for left and right pages (these can be
plugged into the test.fo that Luis posted):
<fo:simple-page-master master-name="leftPage" page-height="297mm" page-
width="210mm" margin-top="15mm" margin-bottom="15mm" margin-left="15mm"
margin-right="30mm">
<fo:region-body margin-left="20mm" margin-right="21mm"/>
<fo:region-before extent="15mm" region-name="region-before-left"/>
<fo:region-after extent="10mm" region-name="region-after-left"/>
<fo:region-start extent="20mm"/>
<fo:region-end extent="10mm"/>
</fo:simple-page-master>
<fo:simple-page-master master-name="rightPage" page-height="297mm" page-
width="210mm" margin-top="15mm" margin-bottom="15mm" margin-left="30mm"
margin-right="15mm">
<fo:region-body margin-left="21mm" margin-right="20mm"/>
<fo:region-before extent="16mm" region-name="region-before-right"/>
<fo:region-after extent="10mm" region-name="region-after-right"/>
<fo:region-start extent="20mm"/>
<fo:region-end extent="10mm"/>
</fo:simple-page-master>
Both are balanced, in that the margin-right/margin-left for both
the simple-page-master and region-body mirror each other for the
left and right pages. In this case, images are placed correctly.
Concentrating on the following lines:
left: <fo:region-body margin-left="20mm" margin-right="21mm"/>
right: <fo:region-body margin-left="21mm" margin-right="20mm"/>
If I change the margin-right for the left page to be 22mm, then the
images are incorrectly placed on 2nd and subsequent pages (the problem
that I was seeing).
If I also update the margin-left for the right page to be 22mm
however, then images are correctly placed again.
There seems to be a similar constraint for the simple-page-master
margins, in that left page needs to mirror right page. Changing
the margins on one page (but not the other) breaks the images again.
Am I making sense?
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Pascal Sancho <pa...@takoma.fr>.
Hi Samuel,
I don't understand what you mean by "if I take 1mm off the left margin
on right hand pages..."
Can you provide a short snippet to illustrate, please?
I know there is a bug in inline-progression-dimension computation when
using 'mm' or 'cm' as unit, that can cause trouble when using inverted
left/right margins, witch is the case with your XSL-FO (see [1]).
[1] https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51043
Le 16/12/2011 10:13, Samuel Penn a écrit :
> On Thursday 15 December 2011 23:50:54 Luis Bernardo wrote:
>> On 12/15/11 7:44 PM, Samuel Penn wrote:
>>> For some reason, if I tweak the margins a bit, then the image problem
>>> comes back. I did remove the negative margins whilst testing the
>>> example I sent, and it made no difference, so it seems not to be -ve
>>> margins as such, but it is something to do with those margins.
>>
>> Attached is an example with the side regions in place. The output is the
>> same as before.
>
> Thanks. I actually just took the margins you defined and inserted them
> into my stylesheets, and it all worked. I almost have things how I want
> them, I just need to do some print tests to make sure it looks okay.
>
> However, it seems to be that if the left/right page margins don't match,
> then I get the problem with misplaced images. e.g., if I take 1mm off the
> left margin on right hand pages, I need to also take 1mm off the right
> margin on left hand pages in order for images to be placed correctly.
>
> Not sure if this is expected behaviour, but it seems like a bug.
>
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
On Thursday 15 December 2011 23:50:54 Luis Bernardo wrote:
> On 12/15/11 7:44 PM, Samuel Penn wrote:
> > For some reason, if I tweak the margins a bit, then the image problem
> > comes back. I did remove the negative margins whilst testing the
> > example I sent, and it made no difference, so it seems not to be -ve
> > margins as such, but it is something to do with those margins.
>
> Attached is an example with the side regions in place. The output is the
> same as before.
Thanks. I actually just took the margins you defined and inserted them
into my stylesheets, and it all worked. I almost have things how I want
them, I just need to do some print tests to make sure it looks okay.
However, it seems to be that if the left/right page margins don't match,
then I get the problem with misplaced images. e.g., if I take 1mm off the
left margin on right hand pages, I need to also take 1mm off the right
margin on left hand pages in order for images to be placed correctly.
Not sure if this is expected behaviour, but it seems like a bug.
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Pascal Sancho <pa...@takoma.fr>.
Sorry, this was addressed to Samuel
Le 16/12/2011 09:50, Pascal Sancho a écrit :
> Hi Luis,
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Pascal Sancho <pa...@takoma.fr>.
Hi Luis,
I tried your initial FO (with negative margin) against FOP 1.0 and FOP
trunk:
FOP 1.0 is buggy while FOP trunk works as expected.
In addition, note that with fo:external-object or
fo:instream-foreign-object, there are half-leading before and after,
that depend on font-size and line-height.
So, if your fo:block contains no text, you can set its font-height to 0.
If line-height has a ration value (witch is inherited and defaults to
1.2), you do not need to explicitely set it to 0
Le 16/12/2011 00:50, Luis Bernardo a écrit :
> On 12/15/11 7:44 PM, Samuel Penn wrote:
>> On Thursday 15 December 2011 00:26:43 Luis Bernardo wrote:
>>> Your page definitions (margins, paddings, and so on) may be part of the
>>> problem. Negative margins in a page are suspicious to me...
>> I probably had a reason for that, but I did that 10 years ago, so I
>> don't remember why.
> Maybe to get around a bug... but you should not need to do so now. But
> it is important to understand the page regions and how margins relate to
> extents.
>>> I fixed your example by reducing it a simpler case. If you are not using
>>> using the start, end, before and after regions you do not need to define
>>> them. Probably later you will want to use them for static content but
>>> for the purposes of your example they are not needed.
>> I do need all those regions in the real document. I've added your
>> margins into my actual stylesheet, and the graphics are fixed, however
>> the page dimensions are now too squashed.
>>
>> For some reason, if I tweak the margins a bit, then the image problem
>> comes back. I did remove the negative margins whilst testing the
>> example I sent, and it made no difference, so it seems not to be -ve
>> margins as such, but it is something to do with those margins.
> Attached is an example with the side regions in place. The output is the
> same as before.
>> At least this gives me something to play with, and I can try tweaking
>> the values (and refresh my memory of what they all mean) to try and
>> find out exactly what values cause the issue.
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help.
>>
>
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Luis Bernardo <lm...@gmail.com>.
On 12/15/11 7:44 PM, Samuel Penn wrote:
> On Thursday 15 December 2011 00:26:43 Luis Bernardo wrote:
>> Your page definitions (margins, paddings, and so on) may be part of the
>> problem. Negative margins in a page are suspicious to me...
> I probably had a reason for that, but I did that 10 years ago, so I
> don't remember why.
Maybe to get around a bug... but you should not need to do so now. But
it is important to understand the page regions and how margins relate to
extents.
>> I fixed your example by reducing it a simpler case. If you are not using
>> using the start, end, before and after regions you do not need to define
>> them. Probably later you will want to use them for static content but
>> for the purposes of your example they are not needed.
> I do need all those regions in the real document. I've added your
> margins into my actual stylesheet, and the graphics are fixed, however
> the page dimensions are now too squashed.
>
> For some reason, if I tweak the margins a bit, then the image problem
> comes back. I did remove the negative margins whilst testing the
> example I sent, and it made no difference, so it seems not to be -ve
> margins as such, but it is something to do with those margins.
Attached is an example with the side regions in place. The output is the
same as before.
> At least this gives me something to play with, and I can try tweaking
> the values (and refresh my memory of what they all mean) to try and
> find out exactly what values cause the issue.
>
> Thanks very much for your help.
>
Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
On Thursday 15 December 2011 00:26:43 Luis Bernardo wrote:
> Your page definitions (margins, paddings, and so on) may be part of the
> problem. Negative margins in a page are suspicious to me...
I probably had a reason for that, but I did that 10 years ago, so I
don't remember why.
> I fixed your example by reducing it a simpler case. If you are not using
> using the start, end, before and after regions you do not need to define
> them. Probably later you will want to use them for static content but
> for the purposes of your example they are not needed.
I do need all those regions in the real document. I've added your
margins into my actual stylesheet, and the graphics are fixed, however
the page dimensions are now too squashed.
For some reason, if I tweak the margins a bit, then the image problem
comes back. I did remove the negative margins whilst testing the
example I sent, and it made no difference, so it seems not to be -ve
margins as such, but it is something to do with those margins.
At least this gives me something to play with, and I can try tweaking
the values (and refresh my memory of what they all mean) to try and
find out exactly what values cause the issue.
Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: More on external graphics
Posted by Luis Bernardo <lm...@gmail.com>.
Your page definitions (margins, paddings, and so on) may be part of the
problem. Negative margins in a page are suspicious to me...
I fixed your example by reducing it a simpler case. If you are not using
using the start, end, before and after regions you do not need to define
them. Probably later you will want to use them for static content but
for the purposes of your example they are not needed.
Source and output attached.
Luis
On 12/14/11 6:52 PM, Samuel Penn wrote:
> A while back, I posted about a problem I had with the positioning of
> graphics within a document. I didn't get any solutions, and now I've
> had some time to look at this again.
>
> To recap: What I'm seeing is that on the second and subsequent pages
> of a document, images placed using<fo:external-graphic/> appear above
> the place they should, on top of the text preceeding the correct place
> in the flow. Attached is a PDF demonstrating this effect.
>
> I've cut the .fo file down as much as I can to demonstrate the effect
> (the original document has alternating left/right headings and has a
> two-column layout). I can also fix the problem by removing the
> alternating pages - there's a commented out<fo:simple-master-page/>
> in the file which if used displays the images correctly. Unfortunately,
> I need alternating pages so this isn't a real option for me.
>
> I've attached the .fo and a test image which demonstrates the problem.
>
> I'm using fop-1.0.0 (on Ubuntu), though discovered the problem on 0.95.
> The strange thing is, I'm sure I didn't have the problem on a previous
> installation of 0.95 (though it's possible I didn't notice).
>
> If anyone has any ideas on what the problem is, and how to solve it,
> then I'd be very grateful.
>
>
>
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More on external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
A while back, I posted about a problem I had with the positioning of
graphics within a document. I didn't get any solutions, and now I've
had some time to look at this again.
To recap: What I'm seeing is that on the second and subsequent pages
of a document, images placed using <fo:external-graphic/> appear above
the place they should, on top of the text preceeding the correct place
in the flow. Attached is a PDF demonstrating this effect.
I've cut the .fo file down as much as I can to demonstrate the effect
(the original document has alternating left/right headings and has a
two-column layout). I can also fix the problem by removing the
alternating pages - there's a commented out <fo:simple-master-page/>
in the file which if used displays the images correctly. Unfortunately,
I need alternating pages so this isn't a real option for me.
I've attached the .fo and a test image which demonstrates the problem.
I'm using fop-1.0.0 (on Ubuntu), though discovered the problem on 0.95.
The strange thing is, I'm sure I didn't have the problem on a previous
installation of 0.95 (though it's possible I didn't notice).
If anyone has any ideas on what the problem is, and how to solve it,
then I'd be very grateful.
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More on external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
A while ago, I posted about a problem with <fo:external-graphic/>. I'm still
having the same problem, so I've tried simplifying things down as much as
I can to see what does and doesn't cause it.
I'm using FOP 1.0, on Ubuntu. I originally saw the problem on 0.95.
When embedding a graphic into the text flow, on the 2nd and subsequent page
the image will be placed above the space insterted for it. i.e., a gap of
the right size for the image is created between paragraphs of text, but the
image itself is placed ontop of the preceeding paragraph, leaving a gap of
whitespace followed by the next paragraph.
The attached PDF demonstrates the effect. The images on the first page are
fine, the images on the subsequent pages are not.
If I start a new chapter, i.e. a new <fo:flow/>, then it works again for
the first page, but images are misplaced on following pages.
I've included a sample test.fo (plus test.jpg which it references). The
problem can be 'fixed' by not using <fo:repeatable-page-master-alternatives/>
to switch between left and right pages. There's a second
<fo:simple-page-master/> defined in the layout, but commented out, which if
used removes the problem. Since I need left/right alternating formats
however, this isn't actually a workable solution for me.
Possible the issue is with alternating pages, but I don't know enough
about FOP to be sure. If anyone has any ideas one what is going wrong,
whether it's a bug in FOP or a problem with my layout, then I'd be
grateful for any help.
Thanks.
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Re: Placing external graphics
Posted by Samuel Penn <sa...@glendale.org.uk>.
On Friday 26 August 2011 11:46:56 Chris Bowditch wrote:
> On 25/08/2011 22:25, Samuel Penn wrote:
> > I'm having some issues with the placement of images with
> > external-graphic. The graphic (a jpeg) is being inserted into a text
> > flow in one column of a two column page layout (i.e., it's not meant to
> > spread across multiple text columns). What happens, is that the correct
> > amount of whitespace is reserved for the image, but the bottom of the
> > image is aligned with the top of where it should be, so the image
> > overwrites the text paragraph immediately above it.
> >
> > This is happening with several of the inserted images (the one that
> > works is quite small).
> >
> > I'm using FOP 0.95 on Linux (Ubuntu 11.4). On a previous computer, using
> > theoretically the same stylesheets and FOP version, the images seemed to
> > be placed correctly, so I'm not sure what's changed.
>
> Have you tested your XSL-FO on FOP v1.0? There have been a lot of fixes
> between 1.0 and 0.95, some of them relates to multi-column layout.
Apologies, I lied. I had downloaded 1.0 last week to test against to see
if that fixed things, and had forgotten that I'd changed my scripts to
use the fop-1.0 install rather than the system default. So yes, I'm seeing
the problem on 1.0.
Whilst putting together a simple example of the problem, I've discovered
that it works fine on the first page of each chapter. On the 2nd and
subsequent pages (even/odd makes no difference) of a chapter, I see the
problem. Each chapter starts on a new page (it's been 10 years since I
wrote these stylesheets, so my knowledge of fop is a bit rusty. Chapters
seem to begin a new fo:page-sequence/fo:flow).
It also doesn't make a difference which column the image is in.
> Difficult to tell what could be the problem from a snippet of the FO.
> You could try taking out the space-before/after attributes in case that
> causes some problems within multi-column layouts. If that still fails on
> FOP 1.0, could you send us a trimmed down XSL-FO File that demonstrates
> the issue?
Attached. It has two images inserted, one of the first page (which shows
up fine) and one on the second (which doesn't). Second image is 700x500
pixels, first about 400x300.
Thanks.
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Re: Placing external graphics
Posted by Chris Bowditch <bo...@hotmail.com>.
On 25/08/2011 22:25, Samuel Penn wrote:
> Hi,
Hello,
> I'm having some issues with the placement of images with external-graphic.
> The graphic (a jpeg) is being inserted into a text flow in one column of
> a two column page layout (i.e., it's not meant to spread across multiple
> text columns). What happens, is that the correct amount of whitespace is
> reserved for the image, but the bottom of the image is aligned with the
> top of where it should be, so the image overwrites the text paragraph
> immediately above it.
>
> This is happening with several of the inserted images (the one that
> works is quite small).
>
> I'm using FOP 0.95 on Linux (Ubuntu 11.4). On a previous computer, using
> theoretically the same stylesheets and FOP version, the images seemed to be
> placed correctly, so I'm not sure what's changed.
Have you tested your XSL-FO on FOP v1.0? There have been a lot of fixes
between 1.0 and 0.95, some of them relates to multi-column layout.
> The XML looks something like this:
>
> <fo:block font-size="10pt" font-family="Times" line-height="12pt"
> space-after="10pt">
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> </fo:block>
>
> <fo:block space-after="0pt" space-before="0px" text-align="center">
> <fo:external-graphic src="images/sizes.jpg"
> display-align="center" content-width="60mm"/>
> </fo:block>
>
> <fo:block font-size="10pt" font-family="Times" line-height="12pt"
> space-after="10pt">
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> Blah blah blah blah blah blah... Blah blah blah blah blah blah...
> </fo:block>
>
> What renders, is the first paragraph, the image overlaid on top of
> it, a chunk of whitespace (equal in size to the image), then the
> second paragraph.
Difficult to tell what could be the problem from a snippet of the FO.
You could try taking out the space-before/after attributes in case that
causes some problems within multi-column layouts. If that still fails on
FOP 1.0, could you send us a trimmed down XSL-FO File that demonstrates
the issue?
> There's an image of the output here:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-T-EK3oVgCrkfc4aUie6HQ?feat=directlink
>
> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Thanks.
Regards,
Chris
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