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Posted to dev@accumulo.apache.org by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> on 2014/03/21 17:54:35 UTC

[DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Hi!

Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.


   1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and without
   agitation need to be run successfully.
   2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation
   need to be validated successfully.
   3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation.
   No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to ensure it
   is still functional.

Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?

That is does number 1, for example, mean I need

Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation

Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:

Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation

Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread be
sufficient?


-Sean

[1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by William Slacum <wi...@accumulo.net>.
I agree with Chief Keith. Clarity in the docs would be good.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com> wrote:

> I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey+lists@cloudera.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
> >
> >
> >    1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and
> without
> >    agitation need to be run successfully.
> >    2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation
> >    need to be validated successfully.
> >    3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
> agitation.
> >    No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to ensure
> > it
> >    is still functional.
> >
> > Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
> >
> > That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
> >
> > Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> > Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> > Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> > Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> >
> > Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
> >
> > Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> > Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> >
> > Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
> > thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread be
> > sufficient?
> >
> >
> > -Sean
> >
> > [1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
LGTM

For the RandomWalk portion, perhaps using something like "the LongClean 
module of the RandomWalk test" to match the test's terminology would be 
clearer (I know I had to ask someone the first time to be sure)

On 3/24/14, 1:30 PM, Sean Busbey wrote:
> It looks like consensus is that the intent was for each of the test bullets
> to mean a total of 2 test cycles.
>
> Unless someone objects, I'm going to push clearer language this evening.
> Essentially, something like
>
> Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test need to be run
> successfully. One of them must use agitation and the other should not.
> Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest must be validated successfully.
> One test period must use agitation and the other should not.
> Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest must run. One test period must use
> agitation and the other should not. No validation is necessary but the
> cluster should be checked to ensure it is still functional.
>
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Mike Drob <ma...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> We have gone with option #2 in the past.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (repeating from IRC) this was also my interpretation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/21/14, 1:03 PM, Keith Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <
>> busbey+lists@cloudera.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and
>>>>> without
>>>>>      agitation need to be run successfully.
>>>>>      2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
>>>>> agitation
>>>>>      need to be validated successfully.
>>>>>      3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
>>>>> agitation.
>>>>>      No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to
>>>>> ensure
>>>>> it
>>>>>      is still functional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
>>>>>
>>>>> That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
>>>>>
>>>>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>>>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>>>> Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>>>> Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
>>>>>
>>>>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>>>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>>>>
>>>>> Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
>>>>> thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread
>> be
>>>>> sufficient?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]:
>> http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
It looks like consensus is that the intent was for each of the test bullets
to mean a total of 2 test cycles.

Unless someone objects, I'm going to push clearer language this evening.
Essentially, something like

Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test need to be run
successfully. One of them must use agitation and the other should not.
Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest must be validated successfully.
One test period must use agitation and the other should not.
Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest must run. One test period must use
agitation and the other should not. No validation is necessary but the
cluster should be checked to ensure it is still functional.




-Sean


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Mike Drob <ma...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> We have gone with option #2 in the past.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > (repeating from IRC) this was also my interpretation.
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/14, 1:03 PM, Keith Turner wrote:
> >
> >> I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <
> busbey+lists@cloudera.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi!
> >>>
> >>> Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and
> >>> without
> >>>     agitation need to be run successfully.
> >>>     2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
> >>> agitation
> >>>     need to be validated successfully.
> >>>     3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
> >>> agitation.
> >>>     No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to
> >>> ensure
> >>> it
> >>>     is still functional.
> >>>
> >>> Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
> >>>
> >>> That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
> >>>
> >>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> >>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> >>> Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> >>> Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> >>>
> >>> Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
> >>>
> >>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> >>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> >>>
> >>> Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
> >>> thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread
> be
> >>> sufficient?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Sean
> >>>
> >>> [1]:
> http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by Mike Drob <ma...@cloudera.com>.
We have gone with option #2 in the past.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (repeating from IRC) this was also my interpretation.
>
>
> On 3/21/14, 1:03 PM, Keith Turner wrote:
>
>> I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi!
>>>
>>> Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
>>>
>>>
>>>     1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and
>>> without
>>>     agitation need to be run successfully.
>>>     2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
>>> agitation
>>>     need to be validated successfully.
>>>     3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without
>>> agitation.
>>>     No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to
>>> ensure
>>> it
>>>     is still functional.
>>>
>>> Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
>>>
>>> That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
>>>
>>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>> Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>> Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>>
>>> Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
>>>
>>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>>
>>> Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
>>> thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread be
>>> sufficient?
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> [1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
(repeating from IRC) this was also my interpretation.

On 3/21/14, 1:03 PM, Keith Turner wrote:
> I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
>>
>>
>>     1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and without
>>     agitation need to be run successfully.
>>     2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation
>>     need to be validated successfully.
>>     3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation.
>>     No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to ensure
>> it
>>     is still functional.
>>
>> Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
>>
>> That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
>>
>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>> Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>> Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>
>> Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
>>
>> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
>> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>>
>> Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
>> thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread be
>> sufficient?
>>
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> [1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] clarification of release guide

Posted by Keith Turner <ke...@deenlo.com>.
I think the intention is 1 24h w/ agitation AND 1 24h w/o agitation




On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Our release guide[1] has some lines that I'd like to clarify.
>
>
>    1. Two 24-hour periods of the randomwalk LongClean test with and without
>    agitation need to be run successfully.
>    2. Two 24-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation
>    need to be validated successfully.
>    3. Two 72-hour periods of continuous ingest with and without agitation.
>    No validation is necessary but the cluster should be checked to ensure
> it
>    is still functional.
>
> Is the intention on each of these lines to have 4 total test periods?
>
> That is does number 1, for example, mean I need
>
> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> Period 3: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
> Period 4: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>
> Or is the intention for number 1 to mean:
>
> Period 1: 24 hr LongClean with agitation
> Period 2: 24 hr LongClean without agitation
>
> Presuming we quickly have consensus, does anyone feel I'd need a [VOTE]
> thread to rewrite the section to match, or would the [DISCUSS] thread be
> sufficient?
>
>
> -Sean
>
> [1]: http://accumulo.apache.org/governance/releasing.html#cluster-based
>