Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

[Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>]

Hi All,

I got the following delivery failure message (more than five occasions) when
I tried to reply to a mail in derby-dev mailing list. Following is the most
recent failure.

But after I remove all other replies in the mail and re-sent that mail it
delivered without any issue.

So, I thought to put up a mail on this regard since I had to face this
problem many times.

Thanks.

Here's the notification mail:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <ma...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
To: nirmal070125@gmail.com


Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    derby-dev@db.apache.org

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
returned was: 552 552 spam score (7.2) exceeded threshold (state 18).

----- Original message -----

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Subject: Re: Enabling XML Operations: Setting XALAN in CLASSPATH
From: Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
To: derby-dev@db.apache.org
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Hi Bryan,

Thanks for the explanation.

Yea, I would like to submit a document patch and I like to get your ideas on
following JIRA related information when creating a new bug.

Summary: Syntax for the derbyrun.jar file document page modification

Priority: Trivial

Affect Versions: ??

Fix Versions: ??

Description: In
http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.5/getstart/rgsderbyrunjarsyntax.htmldocument
page the use of -classpath or -cp when issuing java commands is not
that explicitly explained.


Thanks.


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Bryan Pendleton <bpendleton.derby@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Nirmal Fernando wrote:
>
>> But when I issue this: java -jar derbyrun.jar ij
>>         it failed and providing that error about classpath not containing
>> xalan.jar.
>>
>> So, this arose questions why this happens like this, and what is the best
>> way to start ij.
>>
>
> Hi Nirmal, I'm glad you've got the classpath issue figured out. Thanks
Knut
> Anders for
> catching that, it's pretty subtle that the 'java' command ignores the
> classpath argument
> in this case.
>
> The behavior is documented here:
> http://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.5/getstart/rgsderbyrunjarsyntax.html
> but I think we could have made it a bit more explicit that this technique
> ignores the
> classpath argument.
>
> Nirmal, if you think it would help, you could file a documentation bug
> against that
> doc page, and provide a patch with some wording that describes that when
> you use this
> style of running the Derby tools and Network Server, the classpath
variable
> and -cp
> arguments to the java command are not used.
>
> This doc will need to distinguish between the '-cp' argument to 'java' and
> the '-cp'
> argument to sysinfo, of course :)
>
> In my own work, I find that I almost never run '-jar derbyrun.jar'.
>
> However, I very frequently put derbyrun.jar into my classpath, or in my
-cp
> argument.
>
> When I put derbyrun.jar into the -cp argument, I've never had any trouble



-- 
Best Regards,
Nirmal

C.S.Nirmal J. Fernando
Department of Computer Science & Engineering,
Faculty of Engineering,
University of Moratuwa,
Sri Lanka.

Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

[Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>]

Okey, Bryan.
Thanks for the reply.



On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Bryan Pendleton
<bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nirmal Fernando wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I got the following delivery failure message (more than five occasions)
>
> Hi Nirmal,
>
> If you set your email client to send email in plain text, you are much less
> likely to have your mails rejected as spam. I think that the use of HTML
> email is the primary "trigger" that Apache uses for flagging email as spam.
>
> thanks,
>
> bryan
>



--
Best Regards,
Nirmal

C.S.Nirmal J. Fernando
Department of Computer Science & Engineering,
Faculty of Engineering,
University of Moratuwa,
Sri Lanka.



-- 
Best Regards,
Nirmal

C.S.Nirmal J. Fernando
Department of Computer Science & Engineering,
Faculty of Engineering,
University of Moratuwa,
Sri Lanka.

Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

[Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>]

Nirmal Fernando wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I got the following delivery failure message (more than five occasions) 

Hi Nirmal,

If you set your email client to send email in plain text, you are much less
likely to have your mails rejected as spam. I think that the use of HTML
email is the primary "trigger" that Apache uses for flagging email as spam.

thanks,

bryan