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Naming
Hi,
What should happen to naming? IIRC there has to be a release done at spice and
then after that we can archive the excalibur version. Probably the best thing
to do is place a jar somewhere in CVS (compatibility/lib/excalur-naming.jar),
point gump at it, archive the tree and place it on our website ?
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Re: Naming
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Peter Donald wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:58, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>>1) How is it fubarred?
>
>
> It was docs but fixed now.
Ok.
>>2) Why don't you fix it?
>
> Wasn't it you who said people are going to start becoming accountable for
> their actions and I should stop cleaning up after them ? Or was that some
> other Berin? :)
We are all responsible for the code. If I am under the impression that
everything is hunky dory, I'm not going to fix it--I don't think its
broke.
Some things are just easier to fix than to say, "Hey! you messed this
up."
Besides, what would happen if I got hit by a bus tomorrow? How long
would a bug or mistake I introduced just sit there waiting for me to fix
it? If I were dead, you might have to wait forever!P
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Re: Naming
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:58, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> 1) How is it fubarred?
It was docs but fixed now.
> 2) Why don't you fix it?
Wasn't it you who said people are going to start becoming accountable for
their actions and I should stop cleaning up after them ? Or was that some
other Berin? :)
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Re: Naming
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Peter Donald wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:17, Leo Sutic wrote:
>
>>>From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>What should happen to naming?
>>
>>I can shove it into excalibur-compatibility, as soon as
>>Berin has done the release. I know at least one person
>>(me) that will need that compat jar for a few months as
>>migration happens.
>>
>>That fine with you?
>
>
> I think it is a silly idea because it will only lead to disintegration in
> quality. ie CLI still is fubarred and no one seems to care. I would recomend
> that jar/zip the source tree if needed and move it onto the web and then put
> a binary jar in CVS. But then again I just want to see it cleaned out.
1) How is it fubarred?
2) Why don't you fix it?
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Re: Naming
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
In process of uploading some distributions. You should be able to grab them by
following download link on http://spice.sourceforge.net/jndikit/ in about 5
minutes. BTW if you need access to the code just send us your sourceforge id.
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Re: Naming
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
Leo Sutic wrote:
>>documentation got nuked.
>
> As in nuked-doesn't-build or nuked-files-are-gone? There's an index.xml
> in the attic of the old cli project - is that all, or am I missing
> something?
that's it. Someone should copy the text contents of index.xml to the
package.html for CLI. I wanted to but forgot.
> One question regarding CVS surgery - will I be able to
> move naming to compat by doing a mv of the files in the repo
> from naming to compatibility, or should I re-import the stuff
> into compatiblity? Either way goes, I suppose - but for the
> future.
never 'mv' in the repo. Only 'cp -p'. I wrote a "howto" earlier:
#######################################
ssh leosimons@cvs.apache.org # ssh to apache cvs box
# for file permissions, just paranoia -- as you use the -p switch for cp
umask 002
# new location for the CVS/RCS files
cd /home/cvs/avalon-sandbox
# copy the old RCS structure you want to move here, preserving permissions
# this is the only bit of 'magic' where you work around cvs limitations.
cp -Rp ../jakarta-avalon/src/proposal/avalon5 .
exit # back to local box
# nothing fancy here, just removing the old materials using std cvs
commands.
# Could use a GUI client here if you wanted.
cd ~/projects/avalon/jakarta-avalon/src/proposal/
cvs tag -R PRE_MOVE_TO_SANDBOX avalon5/
cvs remove -R -f avalon5
cvs commit -R -m 'removal explanation' avalon5
cvs up -P -d
# tags that existed in the old structure might conflict with those in the
# new structure. If you wish to make sure that is not a problem, you can
# remove all tags in the existing location. Again, just standard cvs
commands.
# Could use a GUI client here if you wanted.
cd ../avalon-sandbox
cvs update -P -d
cd avalon5
cvs log > cvs_history.txt # get cvs logs
cvs tag -R -d SOME_TAG avalon5 # repeat this for all existing tags
cvs add cvs_history.txt
cvs commit -m "history up to $currentdate, including tags" \
cvs_history.txt
cvs remove -f cvs_history.txt
cvs commit -m 'move history to attic' cvs_history.txt
#######################################
more info in the cvsbook.
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RE: Naming
Posted by Leo Sutic <le...@inspireinfrastructure.com>.
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
>
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:59, Leo Sutic wrote:
> > As in nuked-doesn't-build or nuked-files-are-gone?
>
> gone.
Should be in now. I stuffed it into the package.html (that was
the plan, as I understand it).
/LS
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Re: Naming
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:59, Leo Sutic wrote:
> As in nuked-doesn't-build or nuked-files-are-gone?
gone.
> One question regarding CVS surgery - will I be able to
> move naming to compat by doing a mv of the files in the repo
> from naming to compatibility, or should I re-import the stuff
> into compatiblity? Either way goes, I suppose - but for the
> future.
At the moment it would be best just to reimport. After a month or two we can
nuke the server directories and archive them to our website.
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RE: Naming
Posted by Leo Sutic <le...@inspireinfrastructure.com>.
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
>
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:37, Leo Sutic wrote:
> > > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
> > >
> > > CLI still is fubarred and no one seems to care.
> >
> > In what way? I though I had fixed that thing when the unit tests
> > ran...
>
> documentation got nuked.
As in nuked-doesn't-build or nuked-files-are-gone? There's an index.xml
in the attic of the old cli project - is that all, or am I missing
something?
> > It seems like it is acceptable for you anyway - so how
> > about I do it right after the phase 2 release?
>
> the earlier the better.
I'll just wait for the release for the moment. It's only a
couple of days away.
One question regarding CVS surgery - will I be able to
move naming to compat by doing a mv of the files in the repo
from naming to compatibility, or should I re-import the stuff
into compatiblity? Either way goes, I suppose - but for the
future.
/LS
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Re: Naming
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:37, Leo Sutic wrote:
> > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
> >
> > CLI still is fubarred and no one seems to care.
>
> In what way? I though I had fixed that thing when the unit tests
> ran...
documentation got nuked.
> It seems like it is acceptable for you anyway - so how about I
> do it right after the phase 2 release?
the earlier the better.
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RE: Naming
Posted by Leo Sutic <le...@inspireinfrastructure.com>.
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
>
> CLI still is fubarred and no one seems to care.
In what way? I though I had fixed that thing when the unit tests
ran...
> I would recomend that jar/zip the source tree if needed and move it
> onto the web and then put a binary jar in CVS. But then again I
> just want to see it cleaned out.
The reason I'm against a binary-only distro is that I want to
have access to the source if needed. But there will be no disintegration
of quality - the thing will freeze as-is. I can live with any bugs it
has (I hope - that why I want the code) until I've switched.
It seems like it is acceptable for you anyway - so how about I
do it right after the phase 2 release?
/LS
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Re: Naming
Posted by Peter Donald <pe...@realityforge.org>.
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:17, Leo Sutic wrote:
> > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > What should happen to naming?
>
> I can shove it into excalibur-compatibility, as soon as
> Berin has done the release. I know at least one person
> (me) that will need that compat jar for a few months as
> migration happens.
>
> That fine with you?
I think it is a silly idea because it will only lead to disintegration in
quality. ie CLI still is fubarred and no one seems to care. I would recomend
that jar/zip the source tree if needed and move it onto the web and then put
a binary jar in CVS. But then again I just want to see it cleaned out.
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RE: Naming
Posted by Leo Sutic <le...@inspireinfrastructure.com>.
> From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org]
>
> Hi,
>
> What should happen to naming?
I can shove it into excalibur-compatibility, as soon as
Berin has done the release. I know at least one person
(me) that will need that compat jar for a few months as
migration happens.
That fine with you?
/LS
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