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[jira] [Created] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
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                 Key: INFRA-3653
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
             Project: Infrastructure
          Issue Type: Wish
      Security Level: public (Regular issues)
          Components: Subversion
            Reporter: Mark Struberg


Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.

Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.

There is almost zero traffic those days
http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.

The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?


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[jira] [Closed] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson closed INFRA-3653.
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    Resolution: Fixed

Enjoy!

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13039532#comment-13039532 ] 

Brett Porter commented on INFRA-3653:
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I let those users lists know they'd be shutdown. So they can closed, with the others merged into their corresponding lists.

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13038991#comment-13038991 ] 

Tony Stevenson commented on INFRA-3653:
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Well, once we get a definitive list I can get it done.  The change will only take a few mins to edit the mailer config. 

Not sure if we actually want to fold the old lists into the others.  But we'll see. 

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-3653:
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<gmcdonald> pctony did this around r790282


> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Closed] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

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#asfinfra IRC Bot closed INFRA-3653.
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    Resolution: Fixed

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Arnaud HERITIER (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Arnaud HERITIER commented on INFRA-3653:
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Acked. We want to merge back everything. thx for your help guys

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Mark Struberg (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Mark Struberg commented on INFRA-3653:
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txs gav!

Daniel Kulp gathered the following info:

We currently have:

[/maven]
for_paths = maven/
to_addr = commits@maven.apache.org
suppress_if_match = yes
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org

[/maven/scm]
for_paths = maven/scm/
to_addr = scm-commits@maven.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org

[/maven/wagon]
for_paths = maven/wagon/
to_addr = wagon-commits@maven.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org

[/maven/doxia]
for_paths = maven/doxia/
to_addr = doxia-commits@maven.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org

[/maven/surefire]
for_paths = maven/surefire/
to_addr = surefire-commits@maven.apache.org
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org


This all should be collapsed to just:

[/maven]
for_paths = maven/
to_addr = commits@maven.apache.org
suppress_if_match = yes
bcc_addr = git@git.apache.org

Please give us till tomorrow to review this list, I'll send a Maven PMC member over to here to ack it, oki?

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Updated] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Brett Porter updated INFRA-3653:
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    Summary: merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists  (was: send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits)

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Reopened] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Brett Porter reopened INFRA-3653:
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Thanks!

I can see that the subs lists got moved and the qmail files changed. However, the ezmlm directories under ~/lists/maven.apache.org are still there. This means that someone can resubscribe to the list normally, though never receive anything from it, which has some potential for confusion.

I think you still need to run the remove-list script (and then re-establish the .qmail redirect) that's in the apmail README under "Merging"

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Brett Porter commented on INFRA-3653:
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the dev list also talked about folding in *-users@ and *-dev@ into their corresponding lists

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Brett Porter (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Brett Porter commented on INFRA-3653:
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I was expecting the old archives retained as is, but the configuration removed, and the qmail file pointed to the other lists. As Gav said on #asfinfra - the instructions for merging lists should be fine here.

The lists are: users, dev, commits for each of wagon, surefire, doxia, scm

The discussion only started < 24h ago though, so let's give the dev@ list a bit of time to object.

Also should decide what to do with users... going from *-users to users@maven.apache.org is a traffic jump. I'm inclined to either just remove those lists, or merge with dev (as they are rather developer oriented).

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Assigned] (INFRA-3653) send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits

Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson reassigned INFRA-3653:
-------------------------------------

    Assignee: Tony Stevenson

> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-3653:
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<gmcdonald> gather all the changes you need to this issue so they cna be done in one hit, thanks.


> send Maven WAGON commit messages to maven-commits instead wagon-commits
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-3653) merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists

Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson commented on INFRA-3653:
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Ok - so I have updated asf-mailer.conf to flatten the svn commit messages into the single list. 

I have also moved the subscribers from the dev, and commit lists into the top-level maven lists.  I have also removed the subscribers from the users lists. 

> merge Maven subproject lists into main commits, dev, users lists
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-3653
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3653
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Wish
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>          Components: Subversion
>            Reporter: Mark Struberg
>            Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> Since traffic on a few maven subprojects is pretty low, we decided to consolidate our mailing lists a bit.
> Currently committing to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/wagon will send mails to wagon-commits.
> There is almost zero traffic those days
> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.maven.wagon-commits
> thus moving this info over to maven-commits is what we'd like to have.
> The basic tendency is to aggregate those mailing litsts even more. Should I ping the maven PMC and get a list which other projects should get folded too, or better create single Jiras for each separate list?

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