RE: [RD] incorrect real name (was Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl .org!!!)

[Chris Santerre <cs...@MerchantsOverseas.com>]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Wilcock [mailto:john@tradoc.fr]
>Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:19 AM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: [RD] incorrect real name (was Re: feeding frenzy for
>ws.surbl.org!!!)
>
>
>On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:51:56 +0200, John Wilcock wrote:
>> In particular, I have an idea for the To field:
>> 
>> | To: "judson burrows" <jo...@tradoc.fr>
>> 
>> My name isn't "judson burrows", or Ophelia Rrnyihie, or 
>"edmond olivio",
>> or any of the numerous similar names spammers have addressed me as
>> recently! It ought to be fairly easy to write a rule 
>specific to me that
>> fires if the real name contains neither John nor Wilcock, 
>
>I've just come up with a first attempt at this, that seems to work:
>
>| header   __TO_NOREALNAME        To =~ /^["\s]*\<?\S+\@\S+\>?\s*$/
>| header   __TO_GOODREALNAME_JOHN To =~ 
>/^\"?john\s+wilcock\"?\s+\<?john\@\S+\>?\s*$/i
>| header   __TO_JOHN              To =~ /john\@/i
>| meta     local_BADREALNAME_JOHN __TO_JOHN && 
>!__TO_GOODREALNAME_JOHN && !__TO_NOREALNAME
>| describe local_BADREALNAME_JOHN To John but with wrong real name
>| score    local_BADREALNAME_JOHN 2.0
>
>but only for me personally, of course. Anyone any comments on whether
>this rule could be improved or optimised? I'm sure it ought to be
>possible to write a single regex rather than these three meta-rules...
>
>And how about the more general case I mentioned:
>
>> a generic plug-in that does an LDAP lookup or similar in order to
>> determine the real name of J. Random User then checks 
>whether the first
>> and last names match? There's a challenge for you...
>
>Any takers?

Is this not at the mercy of how users put your email into their address
book? What if my wife adds me to her address book under "Sexy stud muffin"?
Would that not fail on this rule?

--Chris 

RE: [RD] incorrect real name (was Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl .org!!!)

[Calvin Dunigan <cd...@newvision.com>]

On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 06:55, Chris Santerre wrote:
> Is this not at the mercy of how users put your email into their address
> book? What if my wife adds me to her address book under "Sexy stud muffin"?
> Would that not fail on this rule?

That would fail on many, many levels.

-- 
Calvin Dunigan
Network Administrator
New Vision International
8322 E. Hartford Drive
Scottsdale, AZ 85255
480-927-8608

Re: [RD] incorrect real name (was Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl .org!!!)

[Jim Maul <jm...@elih.org>]

Chris Santerre wrote:

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> 
> 
> Is this not at the mercy of how users put your email into their address
> book? What if my wife adds me to her address book under "Sexy stud muffin"?

Well then she'd probably be lying ;)

-Jim