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OT: hosting recommendations?

hihi all,

can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
range)

i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.

thanks in advance,
woodchuck


		
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Vic <vi...@friendvu.com>.
http://order.1and1.co.uk/xml/order/Server

They also have US hosting.

.V


Woodchuck wrote:
> rackspace must be some serious hosting... they start at a whopping
> $350/month... lol, if i win the lottery i will sign up with them! :)
> 
> you're right, there seems to be very economical hosting for php.  why
> is that?  i don't know anything about php, can it do everything that
> struts can?  is it difficult to learn?  what is the differences, pros
> and cons between php and struts?  (other than i can get php hosting
> plans for less than $10/month!!!)  :)
> 
> thanks,
> woodchuck
> 
> 
> --- bryan <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Get some friends together and get yourselves a linux box hosted on
>>rackspace, jave is too resource hungry to get cheap virtual server
>>type offerings for it. That is why the world uses php or if you just
>>wanna demo your stuff why not get ADSL
>>
>>--b
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
>><wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>hihi all,
>>>
>>>can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and
>>
>>offer
>>
>>>private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 -
>>
>>$20/month
>>
>>>range)
>>>
>>>i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their
>>
>>list
>>
>>>but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
>>>stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or
>>
>>they
>>
>>>charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance,
>>>woodchuck
>>>
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Vic <vi...@friendvu.com>.
I have used 1&1. They give you root access so you can do whatever w/ box.
.V

Woodchuck wrote:
> rackspace must be some serious hosting... they start at a whopping
> $350/month... lol, if i win the lottery i will sign up with them! :)
> 
> you're right, there seems to be very economical hosting for php.  why
> is that?  i don't know anything about php, can it do everything that
> struts can?  is it difficult to learn?  what is the differences, pros
> and cons between php and struts?  (other than i can get php hosting
> plans for less than $10/month!!!)  :)
> 
> thanks,
> woodchuck
> 
> 
> --- bryan <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Get some friends together and get yourselves a linux box hosted on
>>rackspace, jave is too resource hungry to get cheap virtual server
>>type offerings for it. That is why the world uses php or if you just
>>wanna demo your stuff why not get ADSL
>>
>>--b
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
>><wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>hihi all,
>>>
>>>can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and
>>
>>offer
>>
>>>private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 -
>>
>>$20/month
>>
>>>range)
>>>
>>>i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their
>>
>>list
>>
>>>but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
>>>stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or
>>
>>they
>>
>>>charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance,
>>>woodchuck
>>>
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RE: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk>.
Php is a small (in terms of memory footprint) interpreted language.  Php
(running as an apache module) is kept in memory, but doesnt use anywhere as
much memory as your typical tomcat jvm. Each page is processed separately -
so you dont have the 'web-app' hanging around in memory.

You generally tend to get very page-centric coding, with little structure
(as far as i'm aware there's no MVC solution like struts available). Php is
easy to learn - it's much like c or javascript, but with no enforced typing.
Because of this you get a lot of sloppy php code with huge security holes!

Costs for php are low as you can run a few hundred/thousand sites on a basic
server e.g.(512mb ram).... tomcat on my dev machine has 512mb allocated for
half a dozen apps!

If you want cheap hosting, get the basic dedicated linux server from
uk2.net - ?30 per month.

Daniel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Woodchuck [mailto:woodchuck_5@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2004 21:14
> To: Struts Users Mailing List; admin@revoltingdigits.com
> Subject: Re: OT: hosting recommendations?
>
>
> rackspace must be some serious hosting... they start at a whopping
> $350/month... lol, if i win the lottery i will sign up with them! :)
>
> you're right, there seems to be very economical hosting for php.  why
> is that?  i don't know anything about php, can it do everything that
> struts can?  is it difficult to learn?  what is the differences, pros
> and cons between php and struts?  (other than i can get php hosting
> plans for less than $10/month!!!)  :)
>
> thanks,
> woodchuck
>
>
> --- bryan <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Get some friends together and get yourselves a linux box hosted on
> > rackspace, jave is too resource hungry to get cheap virtual server
> > type offerings for it. That is why the world uses php or if you just
> > wanna demo your stuff why not get ADSL
> >
> > --b
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
> > <wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > hihi all,
> > >
> > > can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and
> > offer
> > > private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 -
> > $20/month
> > > range)
> > >
> > > i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their
> > list
> > > but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> > > stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or
> > they
> > > charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance,
> > > woodchuck
> > >
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Woodchuck <wo...@yahoo.com>.
rackspace must be some serious hosting... they start at a whopping
$350/month... lol, if i win the lottery i will sign up with them! :)

you're right, there seems to be very economical hosting for php.  why
is that?  i don't know anything about php, can it do everything that
struts can?  is it difficult to learn?  what is the differences, pros
and cons between php and struts?  (other than i can get php hosting
plans for less than $10/month!!!)  :)

thanks,
woodchuck


--- bryan <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Get some friends together and get yourselves a linux box hosted on
> rackspace, jave is too resource hungry to get cheap virtual server
> type offerings for it. That is why the world uses php or if you just
> wanna demo your stuff why not get ADSL
> 
> --b
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
> <wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > hihi all,
> > 
> > can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and
> offer
> > private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 -
> $20/month
> > range)
> > 
> > i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their
> list
> > but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> > stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or
> they
> > charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> > 
> > thanks in advance,
> > woodchuck
> > 
> > __________________________________
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by bryan <ni...@gmail.com>.
Get some friends together and get yourselves a linux box hosted on
rackspace, jave is too resource hungry to get cheap virtual server
type offerings for it. That is why the world uses php or if you just
wanna demo your stuff why not get ADSL

--b


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
<wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hihi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
> range)
> 
> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> woodchuck
> 
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

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www.locaweb.com



On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck <wo...@yahoo.com> escreveu:

> De: Woodchuck <wo...@yahoo.com>
> Data: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST)
> Para: struts <us...@struts.apache.org>, tomcat <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Assunto: OT:  hosting recommendations?
> 
> hihi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
> range)
> 
> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> woodchuck
> 
> 
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Dakota Jack <cr...@gmail.com>.
lunarpages.com $9.95/month

Jack


On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:34:52 -0800 (PST), Woodchuck
<wo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hihi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
> range)
> 
> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> woodchuck
> 
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Vic <vi...@friendvu.com>.
http://order.1and1.co.uk/xml/order/Server

They also have US hosting.

.V


phil campaigne wrote:
> Ben Souther wrote:
> 
>> I use assortedinternet.com.
>>
>> Tomcat/postgres for 30.00 to 35.00
>> they might have other plans too
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:34, Woodchuck wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> hihi all,
>>>
>>> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
>>> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
>>> range)
>>>
>>> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
>>> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
>>> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
>>> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance,
>>> woodchuck
>>>
>>>
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by phil campaigne <pc...@charter.net>.
Ben Souther wrote:

>I use assortedinternet.com.
>
>Tomcat/postgres for 30.00 to 35.00
>they might have other plans too
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:34, Woodchuck wrote:
>  
>
>>hihi all,
>>
>>can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
>>private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
>>range)
>>
>>i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
>>but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
>>stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
>>charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
>>
>>thanks in advance,
>>woodchuck
>>
>>
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Ben Souther <bs...@fwdco.com>.
I use assortedinternet.com.

Tomcat/postgres for 30.00 to 35.00
they might have other plans too





On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:34, Woodchuck wrote:
> hihi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
> range)
> 
> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> woodchuck
> 
> 
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Re: OT: hosting recommendations?

Posted by Randall Perry <rg...@systame.com>.
We're a little more expensive than that, but can meet your needs:
    http://systame.com/html/mac-web-hosting.html


> hihi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend hosters that are Tomcat/Java friendly and offer
> private JVMs for cheap monthly cost?  (cheap to me is $0 - $20/month
> range)
> 
> i went to servlets.com and visited many of the hosters on their list
> but most of them seem to still have the legacy offerings that are
> stingy on space and transfer allowances.  it was either that or they
> charge a lot ($50+/month) for private JVMs.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> woodchuck
> 
> 
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