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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com> on 2008/11/21 03:01:51 UTC
FOR-1108 on Mac
Hey Devs-
I'm seeing FOR-1108 on OSX Leopard. I would assume that JIRA is up to
date but that would mean trunk has been broken for quite some time, so
I thought I'd just ask before looking into it. It seems to have been
reported only relative to a platform (windows) so I thought it weird
to be seeing it too. Is the trunk still broken?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1108
Thanks,
--tim
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Tim Williams wrote:
>> David Crossley wrote:
>> > Tim Williams wrote:
>> >> David Crossley wrote:
>> >> > Tim Williams wrote:
>> >> >> David Crossley wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > What are the errors that you are seeing?
>> >> >
>> >> >> There is actually a note at the bottom of
>> >> >> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
>> >> >> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
>> >> >
>> >> > That note is attempting to explain that the generated
>> >> > docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
>> >> > the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
>> >> > the image references are not showing correctly.
>> >> > I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
>> >>
>> >> Ok, apologies in advance if I'm missing something incredibly obvious -
>> >> I'm coming from a long hibernation...
>> >>
>> >> So, I'm failing with a NPE just like the attached log file in
>> >> FOR-1108.
>> >
>> > That is not related to FOR-1108. It is something else
>> > that appeared around the same time. It came along with
>> > the upgrade of our PDF output plugin. See the dev archives,
>> > where there is some discussion about it between me and Jeremias.
>>
>> This is bizarre. It was a discussion between you a Jeremias[1] that
>> led me to FOR-1108 because of Ross' concluding mail[2].
>
> That [1] is not the conversation that i was referring to.
> This is it a little further in that thread:
> [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c20080912114226.GD2534@igg.indexgeo.com.au%3e
>
> There are two separate issues:
>
> *) The one with icon-b and the NPE. See [3] and see
> the first part of the output listing in [1].
>
> *) The crux of FOR-1108, which is the part where
> it fails (only on Windows we thought) with the very
> corrupted path to dataModel.xmap file. See the
> the seconds part of the output listing in [1].
>
> -----------
> X [0] linkmap.html BROKEN: C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\main\webapp\.\C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\build\test_d
> ispatcher_site\build\tmp\C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\build\plugins\dataModel.xmap
> -----------
>
> So are you seeing a similarly corrupted path too?
I'm not sure, I've been seeing exactly what's in the log about icon-b
and NPE, I'll have to look this evening and see if I see the other
one.
--tim
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Tim Williams wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Tim Williams wrote:
> >> David Crossley wrote:
> >> > Tim Williams wrote:
> >> >> David Crossley wrote:
> >> >
> >> > What are the errors that you are seeing?
> >> >
> >> >> There is actually a note at the bottom of
> >> >> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
> >> >> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
> >> >
> >> > That note is attempting to explain that the generated
> >> > docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
> >> > the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
> >> > the image references are not showing correctly.
> >> > I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
> >>
> >> Ok, apologies in advance if I'm missing something incredibly obvious -
> >> I'm coming from a long hibernation...
> >>
> >> So, I'm failing with a NPE just like the attached log file in
> >> FOR-1108.
> >
> > That is not related to FOR-1108. It is something else
> > that appeared around the same time. It came along with
> > the upgrade of our PDF output plugin. See the dev archives,
> > where there is some discussion about it between me and Jeremias.
>
> This is bizarre. It was a discussion between you a Jeremias[1] that
> led me to FOR-1108 because of Ross' concluding mail[2].
That [1] is not the conversation that i was referring to.
This is it a little further in that thread:
[3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c20080912114226.GD2534@igg.indexgeo.com.au%3e
There are two separate issues:
*) The one with icon-b and the NPE. See [3] and see
the first part of the output listing in [1].
*) The crux of FOR-1108, which is the part where
it fails (only on Windows we thought) with the very
corrupted path to dataModel.xmap file. See the
the seconds part of the output listing in [1].
-----------
X [0] linkmap.html BROKEN: C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\main\webapp\.\C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\build\test_d
ispatcher_site\build\tmp\C:\Dev\apache.org\rw\forrest-trunk\build\plugins\dataModel.xmap
-----------
So are you seeing a similarly corrupted path too?
-David
> My stacktrace
> looks nearly identical to theirs. So, they may not have exactly the
> same cause, I find it difficult to believe they'd produce such an
> identical stacktrace, bomb at the exact same spot, and not, somehow,
> be related. I did -some- homework prior to my first mail...
>
> --tim
>
> [1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c20080912094922.ADEA.60BA733C@jeremias-maerki.ch%3e
> [2] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c48CAD2D7.9070405@apache.org%3e
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Tim Williams wrote:
>> David Crossley wrote:
>> > Tim Williams wrote:
>> >> David Crossley wrote:
>> >
>> > What are the errors that you are seeing?
>> >
>> >> There is actually a note at the bottom of
>> >> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
>> >> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
>> >
>> > That note is attempting to explain that the generated
>> > docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
>> > the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
>> > the image references are not showing correctly.
>> > I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
>>
>> Ok, apologies in advance if I'm missing something incredibly obvious -
>> I'm coming from a long hibernation...
>>
>> So, I'm failing with a NPE just like the attached log file in
>> FOR-1108.
>
> That is not related to FOR-1108. It is something else
> that appeared around the same time. It came along with
> the upgrade of our PDF output plugin. See the dev archives,
> where there is some discussion about it between me and Jeremias.
This is bizarre. It was a discussion between you a Jeremias[1] that
led me to FOR-1108 because of Ross' concluding mail[2]. My stacktrace
looks nearly identical to theirs. So, they may not have exactly the
same cause, I find it difficult to believe they'd produce such an
identical stacktrace, bomb at the exact same spot, and not, somehow,
be related. I did -some- homework prior to my first mail...
--tim
[1] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c20080912094922.ADEA.60BA733C@jeremias-maerki.ch%3e
[2] - http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/forrest-dev/200809.mbox/%3c48CAD2D7.9070405@apache.org%3e
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Tim Williams wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Tim Williams wrote:
> >> David Crossley wrote:
> >
> > What are the errors that you are seeing?
> >
> >> There is actually a note at the bottom of
> >> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
> >> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
> >
> > That note is attempting to explain that the generated
> > docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
> > the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
> > the image references are not showing correctly.
> > I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
>
> Ok, apologies in advance if I'm missing something incredibly obvious -
> I'm coming from a long hibernation...
>
> So, I'm failing with a NPE just like the attached log file in
> FOR-1108.
That is not related to FOR-1108. It is something else
that appeared around the same time. It came along with
the upgrade of our PDF output plugin. See the dev archives,
where there is some discussion about it between me and Jeremias.
-David
> Looking into this led me to linking.html. Specifically,
> these output lines:
>
> * [88/12] [12/50] 0.155s 30.3Kb samples-b/linking.html
> * [97/3] [0/0] 0.09s 1.9Kb /images/ellipse-2.png
> ERROR - Image not found: cocoon:/images/icon-b.png
> ERROR - Image not found: cocoon:/images/icon-b.png
> java.lang.NullPointerException
> at org.apache.cocoon.environment.AbstractEnvironment.release(AbstractEnvironment.java:563)
> at org.apache.cocoon.environment.wrapper.MutableEnvironmentFacade.release(MutableEnvironmentFacade.java:314)
> at org.apache.cocoon.generation.FileGenerator.recycle(FileGenerator.java:64)
>
>
> So, I think, icon-b.png - let me investigate that a bit. I notice the
> comments and they don't immediately make sense. Then I look at my
> file system and, sure enough, forrest has placed icon-b.png in an
> images directory that is sibling to the site build directory. This is
> why I think they're related. Then... I finally read the comments on
> the reference to 'icon-b.png':
>
> "Broken relative reference (it points up beyond the document root).
> Never mind, Forrest "absolutizes" the URLs to be like the URLs in
> examples 1 and 2 and 3. The source file is found in
> src/documentation/resources/images/ directory. However there is a
> problem here. When using Forrest in command-line mode, the image will
> be generated outside the document directory. It is better to use
> absolute /image/ URLs or be very careful about using such relative
> links (Forrest will not report an error)."
>
> It's starting to make a little more sense, but while I'm trying to
> figure out what is exactly breaking, I keeping wondering why in the
> heck we want to even to try overcome a site admin being a complete
> moron in the first place? Throwing an NPE is bad, but I'm thinking
> trying to be this helpful in the first place is also bad. But then
> again, I've been away for quite some time, so this could eventually
> turn out to be a user error :<\
>
> --tim
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Tim Williams wrote:
>> David Crossley wrote:
>> > Tim Williams wrote:
>> >> Hey Devs-
>> >> I'm seeing FOR-1108 on OSX Leopard. I would assume that JIRA is up to
>> >> date but that would mean trunk has been broken for quite some time, so
>> >> I thought I'd just ask before looking into it. It seems to have been
>> >> reported only relative to a platform (windows) so I thought it weird
>> >> to be seeing it too. Is the trunk still broken?
>> >>
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1108
>> >
>> > As far as i remember, you are the first to report a
>> > problem on a modern Mac.
>> >
>> > Now searching the archives i found this from Sjur:
>> > http://marc.info/?l=forrest-dev&m=122112679627853
>> > "Re: [STATUS] [heads-up] merging our branch Cocoon-2.1"
>> > which indicates that it was okay on Leopard.
>> >
>> > Perhaps you can help to debug it, as it seems that
>> > our Windows developers have not yet found time.
>> > Cyriaque added a new observation recently to FOR-1108.
>> >
>> > Trunk works fine for me on this older Mac OSX Tiger.
>> > And it is fine on Solaris 10, as the forrestbot on the
>> > Forrest zones server is okay. Also fine for Thorsten
>> > and Brian on Linux.
>>
>> Actually, according to that mail, Sjur was only able to test in "run"
>> mode which does indeed work for me too - the problem occurs in forrest
>> site.
>
> What are the errors that you are seeing?
>
>> There is actually a note at the bottom of
>> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
>> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
>
> That note is attempting to explain that the generated
> docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
> the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
> the image references are not showing correctly.
> I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
Ok, apologies in advance if I'm missing something incredibly obvious -
I'm coming from a long hibernation...
So, I'm failing with a NPE just like the attached log file in
FOR-1108. Looking into this led me to linking.html. Specifically,
these output lines:
* [88/12] [12/50] 0.155s 30.3Kb samples-b/linking.html
* [97/3] [0/0] 0.09s 1.9Kb /images/ellipse-2.png
ERROR - Image not found: cocoon:/images/icon-b.png
ERROR - Image not found: cocoon:/images/icon-b.png
java.lang.NullPointerException
at org.apache.cocoon.environment.AbstractEnvironment.release(AbstractEnvironment.java:563)
at org.apache.cocoon.environment.wrapper.MutableEnvironmentFacade.release(MutableEnvironmentFacade.java:314)
at org.apache.cocoon.generation.FileGenerator.recycle(FileGenerator.java:64)
So, I think, icon-b.png - let me investigate that a bit. I notice the
comments and they don't immediately make sense. Then I look at my
file system and, sure enough, forrest has placed icon-b.png in an
images directory that is sibling to the site build directory. This is
why I think they're related. Then... I finally read the comments on
the reference to 'icon-b.png':
"Broken relative reference (it points up beyond the document root).
Never mind, Forrest "absolutizes" the URLs to be like the URLs in
examples 1 and 2 and 3. The source file is found in
src/documentation/resources/images/ directory. However there is a
problem here. When using Forrest in command-line mode, the image will
be generated outside the document directory. It is better to use
absolute /image/ URLs or be very careful about using such relative
links (Forrest will not report an error)."
It's starting to make a little more sense, but while I'm trying to
figure out what is exactly breaking, I keeping wondering why in the
heck we want to even to try overcome a site admin being a complete
moron in the first place? Throwing an NPE is bad, but I'm thinking
trying to be this helpful in the first place is also bad. But then
again, I've been away for quite some time, so this could eventually
turn out to be a user error :<\
--tim
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Tim Williams wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Tim Williams wrote:
> >> Hey Devs-
> >> I'm seeing FOR-1108 on OSX Leopard. I would assume that JIRA is up to
> >> date but that would mean trunk has been broken for quite some time, so
> >> I thought I'd just ask before looking into it. It seems to have been
> >> reported only relative to a platform (windows) so I thought it weird
> >> to be seeing it too. Is the trunk still broken?
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1108
> >
> > As far as i remember, you are the first to report a
> > problem on a modern Mac.
> >
> > Now searching the archives i found this from Sjur:
> > http://marc.info/?l=forrest-dev&m=122112679627853
> > "Re: [STATUS] [heads-up] merging our branch Cocoon-2.1"
> > which indicates that it was okay on Leopard.
> >
> > Perhaps you can help to debug it, as it seems that
> > our Windows developers have not yet found time.
> > Cyriaque added a new observation recently to FOR-1108.
> >
> > Trunk works fine for me on this older Mac OSX Tiger.
> > And it is fine on Solaris 10, as the forrestbot on the
> > Forrest zones server is okay. Also fine for Thorsten
> > and Brian on Linux.
>
> Actually, according to that mail, Sjur was only able to test in "run"
> mode which does indeed work for me too - the problem occurs in forrest
> site.
What are the errors that you are seeing?
> There is actually a note at the bottom of
> /samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
> it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
That note is attempting to explain that the generated
docs (as deployed on the zone) are not at the root of
the webserver, hence the generated paths for some of
the image references are not showing correctly.
I don't understand how that would relate to FOR-1108.
-David
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:58 PM, David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Tim Williams wrote:
>> Hey Devs-
>> I'm seeing FOR-1108 on OSX Leopard. I would assume that JIRA is up to
>> date but that would mean trunk has been broken for quite some time, so
>> I thought I'd just ask before looking into it. It seems to have been
>> reported only relative to a platform (windows) so I thought it weird
>> to be seeing it too. Is the trunk still broken?
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1108
>
> As far as i remember, you are the first to report a
> problem on a modern Mac.
>
> Now searching the archives i found this from Sjur:
> http://marc.info/?l=forrest-dev&m=122112679627853
> "Re: [STATUS] [heads-up] merging our branch Cocoon-2.1"
> which indicates that it was okay on Leopard.
>
> Perhaps you can help to debug it, as it seems that
> our Windows developers have not yet found time.
> Cyriaque added a new observation recently to FOR-1108.
>
> Trunk works fine for me on this older Mac OSX Tiger.
> And it is fine on Solaris 10, as the forrestbot on the
> Forrest zones server is okay. Also fine for Thorsten
> and Brian on Linux.
Actually, according to that mail, Sjur was only able to test in "run"
mode which does indeed work for me too - the problem occurs in forrest
site. There is actually a note at the bottom of
/samples-b/linking.html that gives a obscure clue - reading that note
it's still not clear to me why it fails to harshly at this point.
--tim
Re: FOR-1108 on Mac
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Tim Williams wrote:
> Hey Devs-
> I'm seeing FOR-1108 on OSX Leopard. I would assume that JIRA is up to
> date but that would mean trunk has been broken for quite some time, so
> I thought I'd just ask before looking into it. It seems to have been
> reported only relative to a platform (windows) so I thought it weird
> to be seeing it too. Is the trunk still broken?
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-1108
As far as i remember, you are the first to report a
problem on a modern Mac.
Now searching the archives i found this from Sjur:
http://marc.info/?l=forrest-dev&m=122112679627853
"Re: [STATUS] [heads-up] merging our branch Cocoon-2.1"
which indicates that it was okay on Leopard.
Perhaps you can help to debug it, as it seems that
our Windows developers have not yet found time.
Cyriaque added a new observation recently to FOR-1108.
Trunk works fine for me on this older Mac OSX Tiger.
And it is fine on Solaris 10, as the forrestbot on the
Forrest zones server is okay. Also fine for Thorsten
and Brian on Linux.
-David