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Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Leo Sutic <le...@inspireinfrastructure.com> on 2003/06/14 13:38:02 UTC

[PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
I'd like to propose the following:

+0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.

This is based on the way the board handles votes (but altered to 
fit a mailing list instead of a conference call).

The change is as follows (I have marked the changes with *):

The following sections are to be changed:

<section>
    <title>Counting Votes</title>
                    
    <p>The vote administrator will count only the last vote from each
voter.
        That means a voter may change their vote at any time during the
duration
        of the vote. </p>
</section>

...

<section>
    <title>Qualified Majority Vote</title>
                        
    <p>Any vote that affects the texts "Avalon PMC Charter" or "Avalon
PMC
        Policies and Procedures" is a Qualified Majority Vote. For this
type of
        vote to pass, it requires support from two-thirds (2/3) of the
voters.</p>
</section>
                    
<section>
    <title>Normal Majority Vote</title>
                        
    <p>All votes that do not fall under the heading of Qualified
Majority Vote
        are handled as a Normal Majority Vote. If more than half (1/2)
of the
        voters support it, then the vote has passed.</p>
</section>

They are changed to:

<section>
    <title>Counting Votes</title>
                    
    <p>The vote administrator will count only the last vote from each
voter.
        That means a voter may change their vote at any time during the
duration
        of the vote. ***All votes (+1, -1, +0, -0 and 0) count toward
quorum,
        but they do not count when determining majority.***</p>
</section>

...

<section>
    <title>Qualified Majority Vote</title>
                        
    <p>Any vote that affects the texts "Avalon PMC Charter" or "Avalon
PMC
        Policies and Procedures" is a Qualified Majority Vote. For this
type of
        vote to pass, ***there must be more than twice as many +1 votes
cast as -1
        votes. The +0, 0 and -0 votes are not counted.***</p>
</section>
                    
<section>
    <title>Normal Majority Vote</title>
                        
    <p>All votes that do not fall under the heading of Qualified
Majority Vote
        are handled as a Normal Majority Vote. ***If there are more +1
votes cast
        than -1 votes, then the vote has passed. As in a qualified
majority vote,
        the +0, 0 and -0 votes are not counted.***</p>
</section>

Also, I'd like to put in a quick bugfix in this vote:

We currently do not allow 0 votes. You can vote +0 or -0 but not 0. I
would
therefore like to add:

    <li>0  a vote abstaining from the subject.</li>

to the "How to Vote" section.

/LS


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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
Leo Sutic wrote:
> Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system, I'd like to
> propose the following:
> 
> +0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.

+1

---

> <section> <title>Counting Votes</title>
> 
> <p>The vote administrator will count only the last vote from each 
> voter. That means a voter may change their vote at any time during
> the duration of the vote. ***All votes (+1, -1, +0, -0 and 0) count

                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> toward quorum, but they do not count when determining

                      ^^^^

toward quorum, but +0, -0 and 0 do not count when determining

> majority.***</p> </section>

+1/-1 count of course :D

---

> We currently do not allow 0 votes. You can vote +0 or -0 but not 0. I
>  would therefore like to add:
> 
> <li>0  a vote abstaining from the subject.</li>

+1

- Leo



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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Berin Loritsch wrote:

> Stephen McConnell wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Leo Sutic wrote:
>>
>>> Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
>>> I'd like to propose the following:
>>>
>>> +0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
> 
> +1  THis is in line with Rob's Rules for Assembly...


Oops, the real title is:

Robert's Rules of Order (Revised)


http://www.constitution.org/rror/rror--00.htm


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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Stephen McConnell wrote:

> 
> 
> Leo Sutic wrote:
> 
>> Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
>> I'd like to propose the following:
>>
>> +0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.
>>
> 
> +1
> 

+1  THis is in line with Rob's Rules for Assembly...


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RE: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Leo Sutic wrote:

>Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
>I'd like to propose the following:
>
>+0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.
>
> 
+1

Carsten

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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.

Leo Sutic wrote:

>Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
>I'd like to propose the following:
>
>+0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.
>

+1

-- 

Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:mcconnell@apache.org
http://www.osm.net




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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Leo Sutic wrote, On 14/06/2003 13.38:

> Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
> I'd like to propose the following:
> 
> +0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.

+1

 > This is based on the way the board handles votes (but altered to
 > fit a mailing list instead of a conference call).

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: [PMC:VOTE] Vote counting change

Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Saturday, June 14, 2003, at 07:38  AM, Leo Sutic wrote:
> Due to the discovered bugs in our vote counting system,
> I'd like to propose the following:
>
> +0/-0/0 votes cout toward quorum, but not toward majority.

+1
-pete


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